mushrooms and lighting

Beemo · 03/04/2006, 06:37 PM

i would like to place some mushrooms sorta high in the tank.
my tank is small 10 gallons and my lighting is 2x40 power compact.
will mushrooms be ok in this light about 10" below the light source?

BadOleRoss · 03/04/2006, 08:49 PM

Shrooms are low to medium light and the same with water currents. I have a rock full of them andkeep them in the bottom of the tank in the cornerand they are doing fine. But, I am running a 110 galon w/250 MHs. Hope this helps a little

jumpincactus · 03/04/2006, 08:54 PM

yea what he said.......... Low flow low light to medium

Beemo · 03/04/2006, 08:57 PM

yeah i know they are low light im just wondering if they can handle a little bit higher, i dont have mh just power compact i dont know if that is high light in a small tank?

starseed · 03/04/2006, 10:11 PM

I think they will be fine and that shouldn't be too much light for them.

You might first place them on the bottom for a few days, then mid-point, then to the top.

You can also check if they react to the light - if it's too much, they will shrivle a little or look like they are getting a sun burn or you can tell they just don't like it and move them.

BodiBuilt · 03/05/2006, 12:09 AM

Good advise starseed. I have a colony of "green hairy mushrooms" thriving under 130w pc on a 37g.(near center of tank depth). If your concern is with too much light, I don't think that will be any problem. Unhappy shroom's also have a tendency to release and relocate at will. Be patient with your purchase and choose specimens with good/bright coloring, or perhaps a combo-rock of several different colors!

Beemo · 03/05/2006, 09:29 AM

thnx so much
so ill test them out and see how it goes
i ordered online i hope they look ok, they should be coming in a few days. i ordered red shrooms from vividaquariums, pray for me lol

Danger731 · 03/05/2006, 11:48 AM

I have some doing well 3 inches under 110W

starseed · 03/05/2006, 12:41 PM

I was going to add that some mushrooms do like high light - like green metalic

Beemo · 03/05/2006, 12:50 PM

oh really the green metallic is nice, i can put the red one on the bottom and buy the green metallic one for the top
thnx

starseed · 03/05/2006, 02:29 PM

I was going to suggest that too - he he

The reds probably don't need as much light.

I've seen some great mushroom tanks and it's great learning for when one want to go to the next level.

I stuck with mushrooms for 2 years to give myself a learning curve in keeping fish and inverts together while maintaining good water quality.

The mushrooms were very forgiving during my learning period - he he

Beemo · 03/05/2006, 02:39 PM

what i was wondering too, can mushrooms grow up glass? or sand? or do they only grow on rockwork?

starseed · 03/05/2006, 03:06 PM

Glass yes - sand, not too well from what I've noticed.

Sometimes they will release from a rock and float around the tank and land somewehre else, but I've never seen one successfully live in sand.

Beemo · 03/05/2006, 03:13 PM

thats what my zoa's are doing, there all over the place. they grew off the rock and just let go. i find the everywhere lol
kinda annoying

vessxpress1 · 03/05/2006, 03:27 PM

PC light usually isn't too harsh of light. I've seen the color fade out of mushrooms under MH's. You obviously don't want that. They've given you great advice.

Just a side note though. If it's the first time you're ordering mushrooms to be shipped to your door, be ready for anything. I've had success and failure. Zoos ship real easy because they can kind of protect themselves but sometimes they'll ship with not enough water in the bag and the mushrooms are out in the air too much. I've received them with some torn off the rock before. Some look like they'll make it and they don't. One will look like it's long gone and it survives. They look really shriveled up when you first take them out of the box. Mine haven't multiplied as fast as I thought they would either. They have grown quite a bit. But this has been my luck. I'll be praying for you.

starseed · 03/05/2006, 03:31 PM

For me, that's a reason to keep checking water paramiters and environment - they tend to do that when they don't like where they are. That means one has to keep working on creating an ideal environment where they don't what to do that.

On the flip side - it could also mean they love the environment and are reproducing like crazy.

I usually like to make sure it's the later and not because they aren't happy.

starseed · 03/05/2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by vessxpress1
PC light usually isn't too harsh of light. I've seen the color fade out of mushrooms under MH's. You obviously don't want that. They've given you great advice.

Just a side note though. If it's the first time you're ordering mushrooms to be shipped to your door, be ready for anything. I've had success and failure. Zoos ship real easy because they can kind of protect themselves but sometimes they'll ship with not enough water in the bag and the mushrooms are out in the air too much. I've received them with some torn off the rock before. Some look like they'll make it and they don't. One will look like it's long gone and it survives. They look really shriveled up when you first take them out of the box. Mine haven't multiplied as fast as I thought they would either. They have grown quite a bit. But this has been my luck. I'll be praying for you.

That's good to know, I haven't tried ordering softies or corals by mail - only peppermint shrimps - I ordered 5, 1 died when I got the shippment, 2 died within 5 days (I took 3 hours to acclumate) and the other 2 lived a long time - 1 year and 3 years. That's why I ordered 5, I only needed 1.

Beemo · 03/05/2006, 03:41 PM

ive had great success with live aquaria, but unfortunetly they are always sold out of everything so i had to try a new company. i hope they know what they are doing, they offer a 15 day stay alive guarantee

bureau13 · 03/05/2006, 06:57 PM

FWIW, I've had great success ordering livestock from Vivid, and on the rare occasion there has been a problem they've honored their warranty without any problems.

jds

smeegus · 03/05/2006, 07:45 PM

I kept several species of mushrooms in a 10g with only 30w of light (2X15W NO). They LOVED the lower light. I have thought about setting up a similar setup for a "Shroom Only Tank"

03/04/2006, 06:37 PM	#1
Beemo Moved On Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PA Posts: 910	mushrooms and lighting i would like to place some mushrooms sorta high in the tank. my tank is small 10 gallons and my lighting is 2x40 power compact. will mushrooms be ok in this light about 10" below the light source?

03/04/2006, 08:54 PM	#3
jumpincactus Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 237	yea what he said.......... Low flow low light to medium __________________ And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we're liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others." Current Tank Info: 110 gal Acrylic 44 x 24 x 24 Cherry stand/canopy Sequence Dart running closed loop Ampmaster2100 running 30 gal fuge/sump. Lights 2- 250 watt Ushio 14,000k and 4 -96 watt True actinics.

03/05/2006, 12:09 AM	#6
BodiBuilt Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,326	Good advise starseed. I have a colony of "green hairy mushrooms" thriving under 130w pc on a 37g.(near center of tank depth). If your concern is with too much light, I don't think that will be any problem. Unhappy shroom's also have a tendency to release and relocate at will. Be patient with your purchase and choose specimens with good/bright coloring, or perhaps a combo-rock of several different colors! __________________ Tell Them Dave Was Here Current Tank Info: 280g In Progress

03/05/2006, 11:48 AM	#8
Danger731 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 300	I have some doing well 3 inches under 110W __________________ Jebo 375 R , 20 gallon sump/fuge started march 04 from two 15 gallon nano's Now a 30 Gal FOWLR as well Dec 06

03/04/2006, 08:49 PM	#2
BadOleRoss Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lynchburg VA Posts: 381	Shrooms are low to medium light and the same with water currents. I have a rock full of them andkeep them in the bottom of the tank in the cornerand they are doing fine. But, I am running a 110 galon w/250 MHs. Hope this helps a little

03/04/2006, 08:57 PM	#4
Beemo Moved On Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PA Posts: 910	yeah i know they are low light im just wondering if they can handle a little bit higher, i dont have mh just power compact i dont know if that is high light in a small tank?

03/04/2006, 10:11 PM	#5
starseed Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 275	I think they will be fine and that shouldn't be too much light for them. You might first place them on the bottom for a few days, then mid-point, then to the top. You can also check if they react to the light - if it's too much, they will shrivle a little or look like they are getting a sun burn or you can tell they just don't like it and move them.

03/05/2006, 09:29 AM	#7
Beemo Moved On Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PA Posts: 910	thnx so much so ill test them out and see how it goes i ordered online i hope they look ok, they should be coming in a few days. i ordered red shrooms from vividaquariums, pray for me lol

03/05/2006, 12:41 PM	#9
starseed Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 275	I was going to add that some mushrooms do like high light - like green metalic

03/05/2006, 12:50 PM	#10
Beemo Moved On Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PA Posts: 910	oh really the green metallic is nice, i can put the red one on the bottom and buy the green metallic one for the top thnx

03/05/2006, 02:29 PM	#11
starseed Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 275	I was going to suggest that too - he he The reds probably don't need as much light. I've seen some great mushroom tanks and it's great learning for when one want to go to the next level. I stuck with mushrooms for 2 years to give myself a learning curve in keeping fish and inverts together while maintaining good water quality. The mushrooms were very forgiving during my learning period - he he

03/05/2006, 02:39 PM	#12
Beemo Moved On Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PA Posts: 910	what i was wondering too, can mushrooms grow up glass? or sand? or do they only grow on rockwork?

03/05/2006, 03:06 PM	#13
starseed Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 275	Glass yes - sand, not too well from what I've noticed. Sometimes they will release from a rock and float around the tank and land somewehre else, but I've never seen one successfully live in sand.

03/05/2006, 03:13 PM	#14
Beemo Moved On Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PA Posts: 910	thats what my zoa's are doing, there all over the place. they grew off the rock and just let go. i find the everywhere lol kinda annoying

03/05/2006, 03:27 PM	#15
vessxpress1 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NW IL Posts: 1,603	PC light usually isn't too harsh of light. I've seen the color fade out of mushrooms under MH's. You obviously don't want that. They've given you great advice. Just a side note though. If it's the first time you're ordering mushrooms to be shipped to your door, be ready for anything. I've had success and failure. Zoos ship real easy because they can kind of protect themselves but sometimes they'll ship with not enough water in the bag and the mushrooms are out in the air too much. I've received them with some torn off the rock before. Some look like they'll make it and they don't. One will look like it's long gone and it survives. They look really shriveled up when you first take them out of the box. Mine haven't multiplied as fast as I thought they would either. They have grown quite a bit. But this has been my luck. I'll be praying for you.

03/05/2006, 03:31 PM	#16
starseed Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 275	For me, that's a reason to keep checking water paramiters and environment - they tend to do that when they don't like where they are. That means one has to keep working on creating an ideal environment where they don't what to do that. On the flip side - it could also mean they love the environment and are reproducing like crazy. I usually like to make sure it's the later and not because they aren't happy.

03/05/2006, 03:41 PM	#18
Beemo Moved On Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PA Posts: 910	ive had great success with live aquaria, but unfortunetly they are always sold out of everything so i had to try a new company. i hope they know what they are doing, they offer a 15 day stay alive guarantee

03/05/2006, 06:57 PM	#19
bureau13 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,936	FWIW, I've had great success ordering livestock from Vivid, and on the rare occasion there has been a problem they've honored their warranty without any problems. jds

03/05/2006, 07:45 PM	#20
smeegus Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KY Posts: 30	I kept several species of mushrooms in a 10g with only 30w of light (2X15W NO). They LOVED the lower light. I have thought about setting up a similar setup for a "Shroom Only Tank"