Chemi-Clean, any precautions I should take?

ZURCSREEF · 03/14/2006, 09:22 PM

I have recently had a really bad "red-slime" bloom in my tank, it's growing all over my sand, rocks, corals, some of my mushrooms are even detaching from the rocks due to the irratation of the slime and I have been trying to naturally remove it from my tank (ie. removing as much of it as possible, weekly 10-20% water changes, etc.) and it only seems to be spreading even more. I have read about Chemi-Clean, adding it and doing a large water change the next day and was wondering if there are any precautions I should take before dosing it. I have mushrooms, ricordia, xenia, anthelias, lots of zoo's, frogspawn, clam, sps frag, blastos, gonipora, etc. in my tank and I don't want any of them to be harmed in the process of overcoming this cyno problem. I would just like a few comments/suggestions and feedback on this product, aswell as precautionary measures I should take before using it. I have had no sucess finding it in the lfs near me, nor on some of the online retailers, would also like to know where I can purchase it.

I greatly appreciate all comments and suggestions, thanks in advance,

-Mike C. aka ZURCSREEF

Michael7979 · 03/14/2006, 09:33 PM

I used it as directed on the bottle.
Just turn off your skimmer while using it and add an airstone(since it depletes 02 in the tank), then add carbon and do a WC.

Thats all I did and things were OK

Michael7979 · 03/14/2006, 09:34 PM

PS I mostly have sps

ZURCSREEF · 03/14/2006, 09:35 PM

Ok, thanks for feedback, how long did it take for the cyno to start moving out? Lmk, thanks!

-Mike C. aka ZURCSREEF

ZURCSREEF · 03/14/2006, 09:36 PM

Oh and do you have any Clams? I have heard you should take some precautions if you have clams... if so, what type of precautions should I take and is this even true? Lmk, thanks again,

-Mike C. aka ZURCSREEF

roons · 03/15/2006, 11:00 AM

i use it with 2 crocea and sps, dont use airstone....................no problems

uscgbeachbum · 03/15/2006, 11:16 AM

It doesn't harm clams. I just dosed the other day and my clam is just fine. I got the idea from a buddy of mine (ChrisAggie) who has 4 clams (none injured). It works great. All the nasty stuff was gone the next morning.

TWallace · 03/15/2006, 11:27 AM

I have red slime algae growing only in my refugium, not in my display tank. Should I turn off the refugium pump for a day and treat the refugium with chemi-clean? Or just treat the whole system?

impur · 03/15/2006, 12:55 PM

I have a mixed reef, including a clam. The only precaution i did was adding the airstone to help with O2. I left it in the tank for 2 days, turned my skimmer on the 3rd day and added carbon along with a 25% WC. The cyno disappeared overnight. But i wanted to be certain it was all gone.

No side effects at all, no losses. This stuff does what it claims.

ZURCSREEF · 03/15/2006, 02:20 PM

Anyone know where to get it?

jrw · 03/15/2006, 04:36 PM

I think Marine Depot has it.

impur · 03/15/2006, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZURCSREEF
Anyone know where to get it?

Check the sponsors. Marinedepot, customaquatics, premiumaquatics.......a lot of them carry it.

ZURCSREEF · 03/15/2006, 07:14 PM

I was able to find some at a LFS, only store around here that I could get it at was Dania Reef Life here in South Florida. I just finished adding the air stone on an old air pump I had and dosed 12 scoops of it into my 120, tank is already looking crystal clear in less then an hour, can't wait to see it without all the red slime every where, will be doing a 25 gallon water change tomorrow. Thanks everyone who commented/suggested,

-Mike C. aka ZURCSREEF

roons · 03/16/2006, 06:24 AM

you cant overdose, i have a 120 qith a 30 gal sump, remember, rock, sand etc displace water, ive calculated my total volume to be around 110 and i only use 10 scoops..................

ZURCSREEF · 03/16/2006, 06:26 AM

Was I suppose to run sumpless even though I don't have carbon or any other chemical filtration in my sump? I currently have my skimmer and uv sterilizer off and only my sump running with the powerheads in my tank. Is this ok?

roons · 03/16/2006, 06:28 AM

yes , the only thing i do is turn off skimmer for 24 hours, then i do a 25% wc and add a sock of carbon , after a week i pull the carbon....................

roons · 03/16/2006, 06:30 AM

i should add i also cut back on feeding and started to vacuum sanbed with wc......................i treated once a month, in 3 months it was gone

impur · 03/16/2006, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZURCSREEF
Was I suppose to run sumpless even though I don't have carbon or any other chemical filtration in my sump? I currently have my skimmer and uv sterilizer off and only my sump running with the powerheads in my tank. Is this ok?

You did it right, just shut off skimmer, uv, and remove carbon and add airstone. Otherwise everything runs normally.

Quote:

i should add i also cut back on feeding and started to vacuum sanbed with wc......................i treated once a month, in 3 months it was gone

Wow it took 3 months? Mine was gone overnight. I did not change any of my normal routine.

roons · 03/16/2006, 11:12 AM

it was gone overnight but by the end of the month it was back but less and less every month, it took 3 months to fully eradicate it is what i was saying...........

TWallace · 03/16/2006, 11:20 AM

Since this stuff only grows in my refugium, should I just turn off the refugium pump and only treat that? Or should I treat the whole system?

impur · 03/16/2006, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by roons
it was gone overnight but by the end of the month it was back but less and less every month, it took 3 months to fully eradicate it is what i was saying...........

Ahh i see now. I haven't seen a spot of it in my tank since i dosed. That was almost 5 months ago now. Maybe you under-dosed? Have you seen any since?

TWallace I would just treat the whole system if it were me.

roons · 03/16/2006, 11:54 AM

i had it pretty bad, turned the water brown, like i said it got rid of it, no none since, but i was just battling diatoms or dinos..............im hoping thats the last battle i have to fight

impur · 03/16/2006, 03:33 PM

I hear ya. Tough stuff to get rid of. Luckily for us there is something as great as Chemi clean to help us out!!!

vessxpress1 · 03/16/2006, 05:45 PM

I didn't follow the directions. My LFS said they've used it in the past and they have very impressive display tanks w/ everything in them. They told me to turn off the skimmer and dose the amount on the bottle for 3 consecutive days instead of one day and then wait. I dosed 3 days in a row, with skimmer off and no airstone and no problems. The stuff whithered away, I grabbed it out as it was dying, did a water change, skimmer back on that was it. Had a very mild case of it come back one more time since, did the same procedure. Haven't seen it again.

roons · 03/16/2006, 06:19 PM

the same dose three days straight? isnt that the same as triple dose one day? that sounds crazy

03/14/2006, 09:22 PM	#1
ZURCSREEF Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Posts: 2,347	Chemi-Clean, any precautions I should take? I have recently had a really bad "red-slime" bloom in my tank, it's growing all over my sand, rocks, corals, some of my mushrooms are even detaching from the rocks due to the irratation of the slime and I have been trying to naturally remove it from my tank (ie. removing as much of it as possible, weekly 10-20% water changes, etc.) and it only seems to be spreading even more. I have read about Chemi-Clean, adding it and doing a large water change the next day and was wondering if there are any precautions I should take before dosing it. I have mushrooms, ricordia, xenia, anthelias, lots of zoo's, frogspawn, clam, sps frag, blastos, gonipora, etc. in my tank and I don't want any of them to be harmed in the process of overcoming this cyno problem. I would just like a few comments/suggestions and feedback on this product, aswell as precautionary measures I should take before using it. I have had no sucess finding it in the lfs near me, nor on some of the online retailers, would also like to know where I can purchase it. I greatly appreciate all comments and suggestions, thanks in advance, -Mike C. aka ZURCSREEF

03/14/2006, 09:33 PM	#2
Michael7979 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Keizer,OR Posts: 923	I used it as directed on the bottle. Just turn off your skimmer while using it and add an airstone(since it depletes 02 in the tank), then add carbon and do a WC. Thats all I did and things were OK __________________ MIKE THERE IS ALWAYS MORE TO LEARN!! 240 RE-build in progress!.....(slowly) Current Tank Info: 240g, 4- 400w Radiums on PFO HQI ballasts, 4- 110w VHO on IceCap 660 ballast, Euro-Reef Skimmer

03/14/2006, 09:34 PM	#3
Michael7979 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Keizer,OR Posts: 923	PS I mostly have sps __________________ MIKE THERE IS ALWAYS MORE TO LEARN!! 240 RE-build in progress!.....(slowly) Current Tank Info: 240g, 4- 400w Radiums on PFO HQI ballasts, 4- 110w VHO on IceCap 660 ballast, Euro-Reef Skimmer

03/15/2006, 11:16 AM	#7
uscgbeachbum Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 823	It doesn't harm clams. I just dosed the other day and my clam is just fine. I got the idea from a buddy of mine (ChrisAggie) who has 4 clams (none injured). It works great. All the nasty stuff was gone the next morning. __________________ If someone wrote a book about your life would anyone want to read it? Current Tank Info: 42x30x19 peninsula, custom 8020 stand and lightbar, custom BAO sump, RLSS R6i skimmer, Waveline DC6000 pump, Maxspect Gyre, 2xKessil A360WE, full Apex

03/15/2006, 12:55 PM	#9
impur Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 4,262	I have a mixed reef, including a clam. The only precaution i did was adding the airstone to help with O2. I left it in the tank for 2 days, turned my skimmer on the 3rd day and added carbon along with a 25% WC. The cyno disappeared overnight. But i wanted to be certain it was all gone. No side effects at all, no losses. This stuff does what it claims. __________________ Great spirits often encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds. Current Tank Info: 75gal, 20gal sump, 6-54w T5 TEK

03/14/2006, 09:35 PM	#4
ZURCSREEF Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Posts: 2,347	Ok, thanks for feedback, how long did it take for the cyno to start moving out? Lmk, thanks! -Mike C. aka ZURCSREEF

03/14/2006, 09:36 PM	#5
ZURCSREEF Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Posts: 2,347	Oh and do you have any Clams? I have heard you should take some precautions if you have clams... if so, what type of precautions should I take and is this even true? Lmk, thanks again, -Mike C. aka ZURCSREEF

03/15/2006, 11:00 AM	#6
roons Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: saugerties ,ny Posts: 1,240	i use it with 2 crocea and sps, dont use airstone....................no problems

03/15/2006, 11:27 AM	#8
TWallace Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,464	I have red slime algae growing only in my refugium, not in my display tank. Should I turn off the refugium pump for a day and treat the refugium with chemi-clean? Or just treat the whole system?

03/15/2006, 02:20 PM	#10
ZURCSREEF Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Posts: 2,347	Anyone know where to get it?

03/15/2006, 04:36 PM	#11
jrw Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Olney, Maryland Posts: 227	I think Marine Depot has it.

03/15/2006, 07:14 PM	#13
ZURCSREEF Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Posts: 2,347	I was able to find some at a LFS, only store around here that I could get it at was Dania Reef Life here in South Florida. I just finished adding the air stone on an old air pump I had and dosed 12 scoops of it into my 120, tank is already looking crystal clear in less then an hour, can't wait to see it without all the red slime every where, will be doing a 25 gallon water change tomorrow. Thanks everyone who commented/suggested, -Mike C. aka ZURCSREEF

03/16/2006, 06:24 AM	#14
roons Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: saugerties ,ny Posts: 1,240	you cant overdose, i have a 120 qith a 30 gal sump, remember, rock, sand etc displace water, ive calculated my total volume to be around 110 and i only use 10 scoops..................

03/16/2006, 06:26 AM	#15
ZURCSREEF Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl Posts: 2,347	Was I suppose to run sumpless even though I don't have carbon or any other chemical filtration in my sump? I currently have my skimmer and uv sterilizer off and only my sump running with the powerheads in my tank. Is this ok?

03/16/2006, 06:28 AM	#16
roons Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: saugerties ,ny Posts: 1,240	yes , the only thing i do is turn off skimmer for 24 hours, then i do a 25% wc and add a sock of carbon , after a week i pull the carbon....................

03/16/2006, 06:30 AM	#17
roons Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: saugerties ,ny Posts: 1,240	i should add i also cut back on feeding and started to vacuum sanbed with wc......................i treated once a month, in 3 months it was gone

03/16/2006, 11:12 AM	#19
roons Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: saugerties ,ny Posts: 1,240	it was gone overnight but by the end of the month it was back but less and less every month, it took 3 months to fully eradicate it is what i was saying...........

03/16/2006, 11:20 AM	#20
TWallace Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,464	Since this stuff only grows in my refugium, should I just turn off the refugium pump and only treat that? Or should I treat the whole system?

03/16/2006, 11:54 AM	#22
roons Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: saugerties ,ny Posts: 1,240	i had it pretty bad, turned the water brown, like i said it got rid of it, no none since, but i was just battling diatoms or dinos..............im hoping thats the last battle i have to fight

03/16/2006, 03:33 PM	#23
impur Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 4,262	I hear ya. Tough stuff to get rid of. Luckily for us there is something as great as Chemi clean to help us out!!! __________________ Great spirits often encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds. Current Tank Info: 75gal, 20gal sump, 6-54w T5 TEK

03/16/2006, 05:45 PM	#24
vessxpress1 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NW IL Posts: 1,603	I didn't follow the directions. My LFS said they've used it in the past and they have very impressive display tanks w/ everything in them. They told me to turn off the skimmer and dose the amount on the bottle for 3 consecutive days instead of one day and then wait. I dosed 3 days in a row, with skimmer off and no airstone and no problems. The stuff whithered away, I grabbed it out as it was dying, did a water change, skimmer back on that was it. Had a very mild case of it come back one more time since, did the same procedure. Haven't seen it again.

03/16/2006, 06:19 PM	#25
roons Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: saugerties ,ny Posts: 1,240	the same dose three days straight? isnt that the same as triple dose one day? that sounds crazy