Deltec or Euroreef Which is better??

ncny21802 · 05/01/2006, 10:20 AM

Im considering a Deltec or Euroreef for my 120. I currently run a Euroreef on my 54 and love it but I heard great things about the Deltec. The deltec im looking at is rated for 170 gallons and the Euroreef for 220 both will end up costing me the same. Any opinions on this anyone??

arconom · 05/01/2006, 10:22 AM

Having run both I can tell you Deltec is better.

twon8 · 05/01/2006, 10:49 AM

which models are you looking at?

sleizure · 05/01/2006, 12:27 PM

Can you elaborate on what makes it better?

ncny21802 · 05/01/2006, 01:03 PM

deltec mc500 and Euroreef CS62 are the 2 Im deciding between

sean_nj · 05/01/2006, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ncny21802
deltec mc500 and Euroreef CS62 are the 2 Im deciding between

Euroreef CS62. Forget the Deltec MC stuff.

Sean

ncny21802 · 05/01/2006, 04:54 PM

bump

old salty · 05/01/2006, 05:05 PM

You probably couldn't go wrong with either one of those.

fireman03 · 05/01/2006, 05:39 PM

i will tell you that I started off buying a euroreef and to make a long story short their customer service is nill. so if you need a part right a way or need to ask a ? good luck. i have had no problems w/ deltec and have spoke to the salesman doug many times over an hour w/ ?'s hope this helps

michelle

ncny21802 · 05/01/2006, 05:53 PM

Thank you everyone for your opinions. I'm still kinda on the fence but leaning towards the deltec

auSS/Tin · 05/01/2006, 05:57 PM

I have a Euro Reef CS12-2RC and I have a Deltec Calcium Reactor. I like both, but I think that the craftsmanship on the Deltec is better than the EuroReef skimmer. I know that I am comparing oranges to apples, but quality of work should carry throughout a company's whole line.

I also have had a problem with my skimmer leaking. I finally broke down and fixed it, but it entailed me heating acrylic, cutting a new hole and installing a Uni-Seal to make it better than new and fix the leak. I feel that for 1500.00 brand new, the EuroReef should have come the way that I had to modify it.

Hope that helps.
Bill

ncny21802 · 05/01/2006, 06:12 PM

Thanks Bill. My current Euroreef is great but its only on a 54. With the $$$ invested in the 120 I want the best. I think the Deltec is what I will buy. Thanks again

arconom · 05/01/2006, 06:13 PM

After dealing with ER customer service... That alone makes Deltec better. The fact that the Deltec skimmer works much better is a plus.

It's no secret that Deltec took designs from ER. It's basically common knowledge on RC. Do you want the Copy of a Deltec? or the real thing?

I have had the pleasure of taking apart the ER Beta pump

Besides the horrible copy job it was all of Deltecs ideas minus the craftsmanship.

Also take a look at the " For Sale Section" What skimmer is always up for sale????The only time a piece of Deltec equipment sells is for a upgrade to a bigger model.

ncny21802 · 05/01/2006, 06:22 PM

Makes sense. Thanks Arconom. You've definintely helped me make my mind up

ncny21802 · 05/01/2006, 06:23 PM

Makes sense. Thanks Arconom. You've definitely helped me make my mind up

arconom · 05/01/2006, 06:42 PM

No problem

I spent alot of money on skimmers to get the one that works the best. I also had to spend alot of money to try different skimmers to find it.

I ran a CPR IIr Hang on
ETS Reef Devil tried 3 different pumps to try to make it perform.
Then I had my ER that I bought then had it turned into a Recirc with the beta pump.

In the End the ER was very nice. But my pump rusted. They were nice enough to send me a replacement but by this time I had saved enough for a Deltec.

Does ER make good skimmers?? Yes, you get the skimmer that you pay for. But the prices of ER have increased and it's closing the gap between a Good skimmer(ER) and a better skimmer(Deltec)

All said and done I spent over 900$ on different skimmers and pumps. I should have done it right the first time but I was cheap.

sean_nj · 05/01/2006, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by arconom
....... It's no secret that Deltec took designs from ER.

It should be the other way.

Deltec MC line skimmers have a lot issues. People are still waiting for some mod from Deltec to get it function properly. Read the Deltec forum.

Sean

ncny21802 · 05/01/2006, 08:04 PM

Bought the Deltec..We'll see how it runs out..Worse case scenario I switch to the Euroreef running my 54. I have about 4 weeks before any fish see the tank anyway. Thanks everyone for your help

Johnsteph10 · 05/01/2006, 08:47 PM

Which Deltec? I hope you got the ap or apf series and not the mc as Sean is right - that line has some issues.

Larry Combs · 05/02/2006, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Deltec MC line skimmers have a lot issues. People are still waiting for some mod from Deltec to get it function properly. Read the Deltec forum.

Sean [/B]

You should go back and read again. Its the MCE600 people are having issues with, not the MC500. Completely different models, as ones a hang on and the others in sump.

DeltecRules · 05/02/2006, 12:36 PM

I am not having any issues with my mce600. I still can't figure out why people have problems with this skimmer, its the same pump used on the ap600. I know from time to time there might be a defect with the pump, but I would have to say its mostly user error, adding additives to the tank, low salinity, to much tinkering, very low bioload, stuffing the carbon chamber with a huge bag of carbon or other media which would cause back pressure. So saying this mce600 has issues I would say otherwise.

tasos · 05/02/2006, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by arconom
I ran a CPR IIr Hang on
ETS Reef Devil tried 3 different pumps to try to make it perform.

Which pump worked finally?I have the same skimmer and I am about to fit an ocean runner Aqua Medic 600 g/h.My system will be around 125G.

arconom · 05/08/2006, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sean_nj
It should be the other way.Sean

It was the other way around I messed up

tasos- I would have went with a good external pump,Iwaki.

sjm817 · 05/08/2006, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltecRules
I am not having any issues with my mce600. I still can't figure out why people have problems with this skimmer, its the same pump used on the ap600. I know from time to time there might be a defect with the pump, but I would have to say its mostly user error, adding additives to the tank, low salinity, to much tinkering, very low bioload, stuffing the carbon chamber with a huge bag of carbon or other media which would cause back pressure. So saying this mce600 has issues I would say otherwise.

I would not want a skimmer that can not surface skim. JMO.

DeltecRules · 05/08/2006, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sjm817
I would not want a skimmer that can not surface skim. JMO.

The mce600 is a protein sucking machine, there is no need for a skim box. I didn't have one with a remora pro but it kept my water crystal clear. The deltec is the same way.

05/01/2006, 10:20 AM	#1
ncny21802 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 364	Deltec or Euroreef Which is better?? Im considering a Deltec or Euroreef for my 120. I currently run a Euroreef on my 54 and love it but I heard great things about the Deltec. The deltec im looking at is rated for 170 gallons and the Euroreef for 220 both will end up costing me the same. Any opinions on this anyone??

05/01/2006, 10:49 AM	#3
twon8 Formally registered membe Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: slightly sw of richmond, va Posts: 5,920	which models are you looking at? __________________ Anthony Richmond Reef Club "and as things fell apart, nobody paid much attention." Not building a wall but making a brick Current Tank Info: 300g DD display, 60g frag tank

05/01/2006, 01:03 PM	#5
ncny21802 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 364	deltec mc500 and Euroreef CS62 are the 2 Im deciding between __________________ "The democracy will cease to exist if we take from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not." -Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: 46 gallon bow. 20L sump. Vortech MP10, Tunze 6045, Koralia nano, SWC Extreme 160 skimmer, ATI Sunpower, Reefkeeper Elite, etc, etc

05/01/2006, 04:54 PM	#7
ncny21802 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 364	bump __________________ "The democracy will cease to exist if we take from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not." -Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: 46 gallon bow. 20L sump. Vortech MP10, Tunze 6045, Koralia nano, SWC Extreme 160 skimmer, ATI Sunpower, Reefkeeper Elite, etc, etc

05/01/2006, 05:05 PM	#8
old salty Genius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Island of Misfit Toys Posts: 3,131	You probably couldn't go wrong with either one of those. __________________ "The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: Out of the marine aquarium hobby

05/01/2006, 10:22 AM	#2
arconom Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 2,126	Having run both I can tell you Deltec is better.

05/01/2006, 12:27 PM	#4
sleizure Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 58	Can you elaborate on what makes it better?

05/01/2006, 05:39 PM	#9
fireman03 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 71	i will tell you that I started off buying a euroreef and to make a long story short their customer service is nill. so if you need a part right a way or need to ask a ? good luck. i have had no problems w/ deltec and have spoke to the salesman doug many times over an hour w/ ?'s hope this helps michelle

05/01/2006, 05:53 PM	#10
ncny21802 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 364	Thank you everyone for your opinions. I'm still kinda on the fence but leaning towards the deltec __________________ "The democracy will cease to exist if we take from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not." -Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: 46 gallon bow. 20L sump. Vortech MP10, Tunze 6045, Koralia nano, SWC Extreme 160 skimmer, ATI Sunpower, Reefkeeper Elite, etc, etc

05/01/2006, 05:57 PM	#11
auSS/Tin Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cedar, TX Posts: 107	I have a Euro Reef CS12-2RC and I have a Deltec Calcium Reactor. I like both, but I think that the craftsmanship on the Deltec is better than the EuroReef skimmer. I know that I am comparing oranges to apples, but quality of work should carry throughout a company's whole line. I also have had a problem with my skimmer leaking. I finally broke down and fixed it, but it entailed me heating acrylic, cutting a new hole and installing a Uni-Seal to make it better than new and fix the leak. I feel that for 1500.00 brand new, the EuroReef should have come the way that I had to modify it. Hope that helps. Bill

05/01/2006, 06:12 PM	#12
ncny21802 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 364	Thanks Bill. My current Euroreef is great but its only on a 54. With the $$$ invested in the 120 I want the best. I think the Deltec is what I will buy. Thanks again __________________ "The democracy will cease to exist if we take from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not." -Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: 46 gallon bow. 20L sump. Vortech MP10, Tunze 6045, Koralia nano, SWC Extreme 160 skimmer, ATI Sunpower, Reefkeeper Elite, etc, etc

05/01/2006, 06:13 PM	#13
arconom Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 2,126	After dealing with ER customer service... That alone makes Deltec better. The fact that the Deltec skimmer works much better is a plus. It's no secret that Deltec took designs from ER. It's basically common knowledge on RC. Do you want the Copy of a Deltec? or the real thing? I have had the pleasure of taking apart the ER Beta pump Besides the horrible copy job it was all of Deltecs ideas minus the craftsmanship. Also take a look at the " For Sale Section" What skimmer is always up for sale????The only time a piece of Deltec equipment sells is for a upgrade to a bigger model.

05/01/2006, 06:22 PM	#14
ncny21802 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 364	Makes sense. Thanks Arconom. You've definintely helped me make my mind up __________________ "The democracy will cease to exist if we take from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not." -Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: 46 gallon bow. 20L sump. Vortech MP10, Tunze 6045, Koralia nano, SWC Extreme 160 skimmer, ATI Sunpower, Reefkeeper Elite, etc, etc

05/01/2006, 06:23 PM	#15
ncny21802 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 364	Makes sense. Thanks Arconom. You've definitely helped me make my mind up __________________ "The democracy will cease to exist if we take from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not." -Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: 46 gallon bow. 20L sump. Vortech MP10, Tunze 6045, Koralia nano, SWC Extreme 160 skimmer, ATI Sunpower, Reefkeeper Elite, etc, etc

05/01/2006, 06:42 PM	#16
arconom Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 2,126	No problem I spent alot of money on skimmers to get the one that works the best. I also had to spend alot of money to try different skimmers to find it. I ran a CPR IIr Hang on ETS Reef Devil tried 3 different pumps to try to make it perform. Then I had my ER that I bought then had it turned into a Recirc with the beta pump. In the End the ER was very nice. But my pump rusted. They were nice enough to send me a replacement but by this time I had saved enough for a Deltec. Does ER make good skimmers?? Yes, you get the skimmer that you pay for. But the prices of ER have increased and it's closing the gap between a Good skimmer(ER) and a better skimmer(Deltec) All said and done I spent over 900$ on different skimmers and pumps. I should have done it right the first time but I was cheap.

05/01/2006, 08:04 PM	#18
ncny21802 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 364	Bought the Deltec..We'll see how it runs out..Worse case scenario I switch to the Euroreef running my 54. I have about 4 weeks before any fish see the tank anyway. Thanks everyone for your help __________________ "The democracy will cease to exist if we take from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not." -Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: 46 gallon bow. 20L sump. Vortech MP10, Tunze 6045, Koralia nano, SWC Extreme 160 skimmer, ATI Sunpower, Reefkeeper Elite, etc, etc

05/01/2006, 08:47 PM	#19
Johnsteph10 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The South Posts: 2,537	Which Deltec? I hope you got the ap or apf series and not the mc as Sean is right - that line has some issues. __________________ John Current Tank Info: None

05/02/2006, 12:36 PM	#21
DeltecRules Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Homer Glen IL. Posts: 1,552	I am not having any issues with my mce600. I still can't figure out why people have problems with this skimmer, its the same pump used on the ap600. I know from time to time there might be a defect with the pump, but I would have to say its mostly user error, adding additives to the tank, low salinity, to much tinkering, very low bioload, stuffing the carbon chamber with a huge bag of carbon or other media which would cause back pressure. So saying this mce600 has issues I would say otherwise.