"tap water filter"

modelrr · 05/26/2006, 07:41 PM

how well do the tap water filters (by aquarium pharmaceuticals) work? I have a 55g fowlr

thanks

bertoni · 05/26/2006, 07:45 PM

I think these are the small DI units, and they might work reasonably well, but will be very expensive to run in most places because the cartridges will be exhausted rapidly. Can you post a link to the product?

modelrr · 05/26/2006, 07:45 PM

http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_...ls.asp?CartId=

sushi chef · 05/26/2006, 07:51 PM

I only see one Tap Water Filter at Aquarium Pharmaceuticals. If it's the one on the bottom ofthis page then you may want to consider a different unit. At least one with an RO filter. It may be a bit less expensive at the start, but DI resin isn't cheap, and running tap water directly through a DI unit would burn it out rather quickly. The filtered water also wouldn't be as clean compared to water out of a good RO unit.

However, a DI unit is better than no filtration at all.

deepboy · 05/26/2006, 07:52 PM

I guess depending on how clean you want your water, I know someone who uses a tap water filter that you hook right to the sink I dont think his tank looks all that well and he constantly has livestock dying off! I personally dont trust them enough to get everything out of the water and would rather go out and buy my RO/DI water.

bertoni · 05/26/2006, 07:52 PM

Yes, that's a pure DI unit. Depending on the purity of your water source, it might be okay, but for most people, it's far too expensive to be useful. Maybe for a small nano it'd be fine.

modelrr · 05/26/2006, 07:53 PM

what are some good, cheap RO filters? where can I get them?

bertoni · 05/26/2006, 07:56 PM

airwaterice.com has the Typhoon III that gets good reviews. FilterDirect.com sells less expensive units, but the quality doesn't seem to be as good. In either case, be sure to get a 75gpd membrane. The 100 gpd membranes aren't as effective yet, and will cost more in DI cartidge replacement.

modelrr · 05/26/2006, 07:56 PM

by the way, we use really clean well water

sushi chef · 05/26/2006, 08:01 PM

http://www.purelyh2o.com/cart.php?ta...&category_id=1

If you're on a serious budget.

http://www.purelyh2o.com/cart.php?ta...&category_id=1

A little better.

Have you tested the TDS of your well water?

modelrr · 05/26/2006, 08:05 PM

no, I haven't tested it yet

Shoestring Reefer · 05/27/2006, 01:00 PM

I used the DI Tap Water Filters for a while. When it comes to getting really clean water, and removing the most dissolved stuff possible, DI can't be beat. Keep in mind, they're used as the last stage in many RO/DI systems to get what the RO missed. DI by itself is not very effective at removing larger particles and things like bacteria, which won't live in your tank anyways.

Like others have mentioned, they are expensive in the long run, and just how much water you get out of a filter depends on your water quality. In 2 towns I lived in, I got 125 to 150 gallons per cartridge. Where I now live, I get about 50 gallons. Seeing as how I have a 125 gallon tank, using those filters is no longer cost effective.

Also keep in mind: RO membranes have a limited life span, and DI resins can be recharged. I'm to lazy to recharge them.

modelrr · 05/27/2006, 02:10 PM

I think a DI filter might be worth a try.

How do you recharge DI resins???

AZDesertRat · 05/27/2006, 05:12 PM

It takes hazardous materials to recharge DI resin and its not worth the risk, time or money for small amounts. You will be sorry you didn't invest in a RO/DI unit. Tap Water Filters may last 50 gallons if you are one of the lucky ones. A good RO/DI will last years with a little bit of regular maintenance.

tashari · 05/27/2006, 05:28 PM

I would recomend RO over DI better RO/DI. RO with a flush is really nice.

Dr4g0nf1y · 05/27/2006, 10:03 PM

I actually currently use this as my method of water preparation. The cartridges care $19 each to replace. Using a TDS meter I find that my tap water is 35ppm, out of the TWF it's 0 TDS.

The resin can be recharged with Lye and Muriatic acid. Both chemicals available @ Home Depot.

The main problem I have with RO/DI is the amount of waste water.

AZDesertRat · 05/27/2006, 10:33 PM

To recharge resin properly you need seperate cation and anion resins not mixed bed like you commonly find. Thats means you would need two seperate cartridges, one of each.
Lye and acid are both available but are both still very harardous to work with unless you know what you are doing. It aint worth it!

05/26/2006, 07:41 PM	#1
modelrr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vienna, Virginia Posts: 105	"tap water filter" how well do the tap water filters (by aquarium pharmaceuticals) work? I have a 55g fowlr thanks

05/26/2006, 07:45 PM	#2
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I think these are the small DI units, and they might work reasonably well, but will be very expensive to run in most places because the cartridges will be exhausted rapidly. Can you post a link to the product? __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

05/26/2006, 07:52 PM	#6
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	Yes, that's a pure DI unit. Depending on the purity of your water source, it might be okay, but for most people, it's far too expensive to be useful. Maybe for a small nano it'd be fine. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

05/26/2006, 07:56 PM	#8
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	airwaterice.com has the Typhoon III that gets good reviews. FilterDirect.com sells less expensive units, but the quality doesn't seem to be as good. In either case, be sure to get a 75gpd membrane. The 100 gpd membranes aren't as effective yet, and will cost more in DI cartidge replacement. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

05/27/2006, 01:00 PM	#12
Shoestring Reefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Westerly, RI Posts: 4,989	I used the DI Tap Water Filters for a while. When it comes to getting really clean water, and removing the most dissolved stuff possible, DI can't be beat. Keep in mind, they're used as the last stage in many RO/DI systems to get what the RO missed. DI by itself is not very effective at removing larger particles and things like bacteria, which won't live in your tank anyways. Like others have mentioned, they are expensive in the long run, and just how much water you get out of a filter depends on your water quality. In 2 towns I lived in, I got 125 to 150 gallons per cartridge. Where I now live, I get about 50 gallons. Seeing as how I have a 125 gallon tank, using those filters is no longer cost effective. Also keep in mind: RO membranes have a limited life span, and DI resins can be recharged. I'm to lazy to recharge them. __________________ Mike Reefcentral Folding@Home team 37251 - Click my little red house to learn more and help medical science! Current Tank Info: 2, 20-gal low tech tanks

05/26/2006, 07:51 PM	#4
sushi chef Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 41	I only see one Tap Water Filter at Aquarium Pharmaceuticals. If it's the one on the bottom ofthis page then you may want to consider a different unit. At least one with an RO filter. It may be a bit less expensive at the start, but DI resin isn't cheap, and running tap water directly through a DI unit would burn it out rather quickly. The filtered water also wouldn't be as clean compared to water out of a good RO unit. However, a DI unit is better than no filtration at all.

05/26/2006, 07:52 PM	#5
deepboy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 265	I guess depending on how clean you want your water, I know someone who uses a tap water filter that you hook right to the sink I dont think his tank looks all that well and he constantly has livestock dying off! I personally dont trust them enough to get everything out of the water and would rather go out and buy my RO/DI water.

05/26/2006, 07:53 PM	#7
modelrr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vienna, Virginia Posts: 105	what are some good, cheap RO filters? where can I get them?

05/26/2006, 08:01 PM	#10
sushi chef Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 41	http://www.purelyh2o.com/cart.php?ta...&category_id=1 If you're on a serious budget. http://www.purelyh2o.com/cart.php?ta...&category_id=1 A little better. Have you tested the TDS of your well water?

05/26/2006, 08:05 PM	#11
modelrr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vienna, Virginia Posts: 105	no, I haven't tested it yet

05/27/2006, 02:10 PM	#13
modelrr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vienna, Virginia Posts: 105	I think a DI filter might be worth a try. How do you recharge DI resins???

05/27/2006, 05:12 PM	#14
AZDesertRat Moved On Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NW Phoenix Posts: 16,621	It takes hazardous materials to recharge DI resin and its not worth the risk, time or money for small amounts. You will be sorry you didn't invest in a RO/DI unit. Tap Water Filters may last 50 gallons if you are one of the lucky ones. A good RO/DI will last years with a little bit of regular maintenance.

05/27/2006, 05:28 PM	#15
tashari Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Davis, CA Posts: 52	I would recomend RO over DI better RO/DI. RO with a flush is really nice.

05/27/2006, 10:03 PM	#16
Dr4g0nf1y Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Shavertown, PA Posts: 692	I actually currently use this as my method of water preparation. The cartridges care $19 each to replace. Using a TDS meter I find that my tap water is 35ppm, out of the TWF it's 0 TDS. The resin can be recharged with Lye and Muriatic acid. Both chemicals available @ Home Depot. The main problem I have with RO/DI is the amount of waste water.

05/27/2006, 10:33 PM	#17
AZDesertRat Moved On Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NW Phoenix Posts: 16,621	To recharge resin properly you need seperate cation and anion resins not mixed bed like you commonly find. Thats means you would need two seperate cartridges, one of each. Lye and acid are both available but are both still very harardous to work with unless you know what you are doing. It aint worth it!