What size sump for a 210?

McCrary · 06/25/2006, 08:39 PM

I need a sump for a 210 gallon tank. The thing is I don't know what size would be needed and I don't know if it would be in my best interest to make one or buy one. The sumps I have been looking at cost around $500. This seems a little ridiculous for some acrylic, but I don't know how to build one so I'm stuck. If anyone could point be in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated (any advice on how to build one would be phenomenal).

sjm817 · 06/25/2006, 08:46 PM

You could use a 75G aquarium and add some baffles.

dj synystr · 06/25/2006, 08:49 PM

100 gallon rubber made tub

gkq325286 · 06/25/2006, 08:49 PM

It all depends on what you want out of your sump. I look at mine as bulk water and a place for filters. So I use a 100gall rubbermaid stock tank, costs about $60 at a local farming store. Inside this sits a large 15 gallon rubbermaid bucket. The over flow drains into the bucket, over it's edge and into the stock tank. The bucket is my cheap baffle system. That and a filter sock and I have no issues with bubbles getting to the return pump. This set up is on my 220

McCrary · 06/25/2006, 08:52 PM

sjm817- The 75 gallon tank is what I have been thinking, but I wanted to do the wet/dry trickle filter and I don't know how to add that to a 75 gallon tank. If you have any advice on how to turn a 75 gallon into a wet/dry trickle filter it would be greatly appreciated. djsnyster- A 100 gallon rubbermaid tub would work if the tank was behind a wall, but I have to fit the equipment under the tank because it will be against a wall.

McCrary · 06/25/2006, 08:55 PM

gkq325286- Do you have any type of biofiltration built into your tub? I am wondering how to set up a tank for SPS and the wet/dry is the only way I can think of doing that. Any experience you have would be greatly appreciated.

sjm817 · 06/25/2006, 08:56 PM

Wet dry trickle is old school and not really used any more. Typically a sump houses a protein skimmer, return pump, heaters and what not and a refugium.

Here is a GREAT place to learn about sumps

http://melevsreef.com/

McCrary · 06/25/2006, 08:58 PM

sjm817- thank you. Should be very informative.

eidillitih · 06/25/2006, 09:09 PM

Oceanic model 3 (I think) 58 gal sump. Not good if you want a refugium also. I like the 75 sump room to add refugium and protein skimmer area.

McCrary · 06/25/2006, 09:18 PM

Well the blueprint of the 210 will be 72 x 24 so there will be plenty of room. I am wondering how large of a sump to go with and whether it would be better to build in a refugium or to go with an external one. I know I want a refugium, but I have no idea how to set this whole thing up.

06/25/2006, 08:39 PM	#1
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	What size sump for a 210? I need a sump for a 210 gallon tank. The thing is I don't know what size would be needed and I don't know if it would be in my best interest to make one or buy one. The sumps I have been looking at cost around $500. This seems a little ridiculous for some acrylic, but I don't know how to build one so I'm stuck. If anyone could point be in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated (any advice on how to build one would be phenomenal).

06/25/2006, 08:46 PM	#2
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	You could use a 75G aquarium and add some baffles. __________________ - Scott

06/25/2006, 08:49 PM	#3
dj synystr Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PA Posts: 843	100 gallon rubber made tub __________________ Dj Synystr Battlefield/WLVR/AOL Mixtape Radio Current Tank Info: 125 Gallon Room Divider Mixed Reef

06/25/2006, 08:52 PM	#5
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	sjm817- The 75 gallon tank is what I have been thinking, but I wanted to do the wet/dry trickle filter and I don't know how to add that to a 75 gallon tank. If you have any advice on how to turn a 75 gallon into a wet/dry trickle filter it would be greatly appreciated. djsnyster- A 100 gallon rubbermaid tub would work if the tank was behind a wall, but I have to fit the equipment under the tank because it will be against a wall. __________________ Matt Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens

06/25/2006, 08:55 PM	#6
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	gkq325286- Do you have any type of biofiltration built into your tub? I am wondering how to set up a tank for SPS and the wet/dry is the only way I can think of doing that. Any experience you have would be greatly appreciated. __________________ Matt Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens

06/25/2006, 08:49 PM	#4
gkq325286 Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 161	It all depends on what you want out of your sump. I look at mine as bulk water and a place for filters. So I use a 100gall rubbermaid stock tank, costs about $60 at a local farming store. Inside this sits a large 15 gallon rubbermaid bucket. The over flow drains into the bucket, over it's edge and into the stock tank. The bucket is my cheap baffle system. That and a filter sock and I have no issues with bubbles getting to the return pump. This set up is on my 220

06/25/2006, 08:56 PM	#7
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	Wet dry trickle is old school and not really used any more. Typically a sump houses a protein skimmer, return pump, heaters and what not and a refugium. Here is a GREAT place to learn about sumps http://melevsreef.com/ __________________ - Scott

06/25/2006, 08:58 PM	#8
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	sjm817- thank you. Should be very informative. __________________ Matt Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens

06/25/2006, 09:09 PM	#9
eidillitih Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Euless Tx. Posts: 1,160	Oceanic model 3 (I think) 58 gal sump. Not good if you want a refugium also. I like the 75 sump room to add refugium and protein skimmer area. __________________ What you achieve or fail to achieve is directly related to what you do or fail to do It's the Journey that makes the Destination so sweet C. Taylor, M.Ed. Current Tank Info: 190g, 250lbs Live Rock, Vertex Alpha skimmer, 2x Tunze 6100's, Vortech 40mp, Queit one return, 220watts vho, 750MH, 60gal. Melev Sump, DIY Stand and Canopy, JBJ 1/4 Chiller, and other Man toys

06/25/2006, 09:18 PM	#10
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	Well the blueprint of the 210 will be 72 x 24 so there will be plenty of room. I am wondering how large of a sump to go with and whether it would be better to build in a refugium or to go with an external one. I know I want a refugium, but I have no idea how to set this whole thing up. __________________ Matt Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens