explosions causing tank danmagE?

goda · 08/02/2006, 09:50 AM

i live near a quarry they blast every now and then and the whole house shakes... ( didnt know they were still using the quarry till after we moved in)

we already have cracks in the concrat from this...
whatt ype of danmage will this cause over time to a low quality acrylic tank ( tenecor)

also what is this doing to the lime stone under my house ( fl has an aquafer then lime stone. then the surface.... seriusly hope it isnt gonna make sink holes

and also if there is any danmage ever to the tank can they be held responisable? ( we live close... like... maybe 400 yards away

crypticghost · 08/02/2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by goda
i live near a quarry they blast every now and then and the whole house shakes... ( didnt know they were still using the quarry till after we moved in)

we already have cracks in the concrat from this...
whatt ype of danmage will this cause over time to a low quality acrylic tank ( tenecor)

also what is this doing to the lime stone under my house ( fl has an aquafer then lime stone. then the surface.... seriusly hope it isnt gonna make sink holes

and also if there is any danmage ever to the tank can they be held responisable? ( we live close... like... maybe 400 yards away

I am not a lawyer...but more then likely they can not be held responsible, unless they told you that they were not doing anything in that area anymore. If not, then it was your chioce to live there so you have to deal with anything that comes up.

Keep a close eye on the tank, it should be ok.

goda · 08/02/2006, 10:22 AM

well imo they should beable to be held liable since there are other ways of doing it.... blasting is like.. a easy lazy way..

or they could always use less when they do it

one of the houses nearby had a window break a few months back

and we have construction around us. i feel bad for the guys on the roof's when the blast goes off.. supprised no one fell yet..

i dont think you understand jsut how large these blast are

altho lately they dont seem as big as a few months ago

i was hoping there was a laywer who would read this lol

mhurley · 08/02/2006, 10:32 AM

Why not start with a complaint to the city? If it's damaging your and others homes, the city should be concerned. It could also be damaging underground sewer piping if it's that big.

RichConley · 08/02/2006, 11:06 AM

I agree with Mhurley, if its damaging your foundation, and your neighbors foundations, the city needs to know, and the construction company should be paying to fix it.

I dont know fi theyre goign to do anything about your aquarium, but the house needs to be dealt with.

reefdood · 08/02/2006, 11:07 AM

That would drive me nuts. A friend of ours has a house facing a RR track. The whole house shakes when the trains pass. You know that shake when a dumptruck drives down the street? Multiply that by 10.

schnell76 · 08/02/2006, 11:13 AM

What are the blasting in ft. lauderdale area, I though us in FL had only sand and sinkholes

ukcats · 08/02/2006, 11:19 AM

They are absolutely responsible for the damage they do to your house through the course of running their business, provided its proved that the damage IS caused by the blasting. The law is usually based upon people acting reasonably and most laws are made to make sense to reasonable people. Most people would believe that (unless you signed something to the contrary or it was disclosed to you) you should be able to live in home without having your concrete crack due to blasting! I would contact the company, but you may have to contact an attorney to represent you. Again, THEY are responsible to the individual if they damage property during the course of running their business. It doesn't matter if they can help it or not or whether they are neglignet (which they may not be). Look into it and good luck!

As far as your aquarium? If the percussions are enough to crack concrete then over time they may harm the seals of your aquarium (in my opinion).

mhurley · 08/02/2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by ukcats
As far as your aquarium? If the percussions are enough to crack concrete then over time they may harm the seals of your aquarium (in my opinion).

It's acrylic...no seals.

Tenecor's are good tanks (why did you call it low quality?).
Acrylic can take a lot more abuse then glass can. I suspect you'll be fine.

Knoxville · 08/02/2006, 11:26 AM

Is the tank sitting bare or supported? What I mean is lets say you have a dampening material like foam under your tank. That could help alleviate some of the residual ground tremors.

shawk · 08/02/2006, 11:33 AM

i know in AZ that anytime you do blasting that you have to put sizemographes(spelling) near any homes to see home much you are moving them. you can also be held responsible for any damage caused by the blasts

Mercutio · 08/02/2006, 12:12 PM

You may have legal recourse if the mine was not disclosed when you purchased the home or if you were told it was closed down. You may want to contact a local real estate attorney.

sufunk · 08/02/2006, 12:15 PM

I'd say regardless of wether you knew or not, you probably have a claim for damages to your house.
p.s.- i'm also in Ft. Laud., where is this? never heard of quarrying around here. I'm a criminal attorney and I may be able to put you in touch with some civil attorneys, pm me.

goda · 08/02/2006, 12:18 PM

i called tenecor low quailty cause htey are.. the seals are filled with bubbles... ( i know about 5 years ago tenecor was great... tough hard acrylic.. ith bubble free seals.. but now its softer acrylic and... yeah)

anyways. they are blasting for the coral stone i think... its right on the everglades ( im near ft lauderdale.. not actualy in it... close to boca )

"You may have legal recourse if the mine was not disclosed when you purchased the home or if you were told it was closed down. You may want to contact a local real estate attorney." well our relitor said it was just cnstruction of a lake... later found out its a quarry

sufunk · 08/02/2006, 12:25 PM

I'm not sure but i'll bet that regardless of any notice they have to do their business WITHOUT damaging your house.

crypticghost · 08/02/2006, 12:40 PM

Trust me, you need to consult an lawyer...Everyone thinks they may be laible, but the law is usualy on the side of businesses...Its really hard to say if they will be or not...If it was there before your house, then more then likely you have no case...kind of the bad of who decided to build the house and your bad for not really researching. I do not agree with the blasting and what it is doing to your house, but the law is not as fair as everyone thinks...I would contact the city and I am sure they will send someone out to look at the house and its fondation. Keep us posted. But you need to do it sooner then later, there may be a statue of limitations, possibly not, but still the sooner the better.

goda · 08/02/2006, 12:48 PM

will do

Mercutio · 08/02/2006, 01:16 PM

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"You may have legal recourse if the mine was not disclosed when you purchased the home or if you were told it was closed down. You may want to contact a local real estate attorney." well our relitor said it was just cnstruction of a lake... later found out its a quarry [/B]

If your realtor intentionally misled you (It really could be a lake eventually) you do have recourse. You need to contact an attorney.

DamnDamsel · 08/02/2006, 01:42 PM

So THATS where they get all that rock they are aquaculturing in the gulf! j/k

well i think i am j/k

Sk8r · 08/02/2006, 01:55 PM

Get the neighbors together and go to city hall.

Or get a lawyer. A judge can enjoin just about anything he likes, if he's convinced.

Look up Lawton OK. The government thought they'd test sonic booms on Lawton back in the 50's, because the town being right next the big artillery range was not going to flinch at a few booms. SO they assigned planes to break the sound barrier over Lawton several times a day. Well, we were used to Atomic Annie and Coffin Clara, and even tolerated Atomic Annie blowing a hole in a lady's icebox inside Lawton, but that did it: foundations broke and walls fell off houses all over town.

Ordinarily you don't get much of anywhere suing the feds. This time the feds paid, and the booms stopped.

08/02/2006, 09:50 AM	#1
goda Moved On Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fortlauderdale florida area Posts: 1,874	explosions causing tank danmagE? i live near a quarry they blast every now and then and the whole house shakes... ( didnt know they were still using the quarry till after we moved in) we already have cracks in the concrat from this... whatt ype of danmage will this cause over time to a low quality acrylic tank ( tenecor) also what is this doing to the lime stone under my house ( fl has an aquafer then lime stone. then the surface.... seriusly hope it isnt gonna make sink holes and also if there is any danmage ever to the tank can they be held responisable? ( we live close... like... maybe 400 yards away

08/02/2006, 10:32 AM	#4
mhurley RC Staff Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Illinois'ish Posts: 38,805	Why not start with a complaint to the city? If it's damaging your and others homes, the city should be concerned. It could also be damaging underground sewer piping if it's that big. __________________ Mike Current Tank Info: 60G Cube

08/02/2006, 11:06 AM	#5
RichConley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bostonian in Chicago going to DC Posts: 9,908	I agree with Mhurley, if its damaging your foundation, and your neighbors foundations, the city needs to know, and the construction company should be paying to fix it. I dont know fi theyre goign to do anything about your aquarium, but the house needs to be dealt with. __________________ NO TANKS!!!

08/02/2006, 11:07 AM	#6
reefdood Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 1,553	That would drive me nuts. A friend of ours has a house facing a RR track. The whole house shakes when the trains pass. You know that shake when a dumptruck drives down the street? Multiply that by 10. __________________ ~I am Fragholio!~ ~I need species for my fraghole!~ Current Tank Info: 30g drilled display with a 20g sump, modded CPR skimmer in sump, Mag7 return, 1/4 hp chiller, Ranco DS, 175w Hamilton, (3) 3' VHO, IC 660, (2) hacksawed MJ 900's on a Waveaster Pro, LED moonlights, and an inch of sand.

08/02/2006, 12:12 PM	#12
Mercutio Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 386	You may have legal recourse if the mine was not disclosed when you purchased the home or if you were told it was closed down. You may want to contact a local real estate attorney. __________________ "The difficult we will do right away, the impossible will take a little longer".

08/02/2006, 10:22 AM	#3
goda Moved On Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fortlauderdale florida area Posts: 1,874	well imo they should beable to be held liable since there are other ways of doing it.... blasting is like.. a easy lazy way.. or they could always use less when they do it one of the houses nearby had a window break a few months back and we have construction around us. i feel bad for the guys on the roof's when the blast goes off.. supprised no one fell yet.. i dont think you understand jsut how large these blast are altho lately they dont seem as big as a few months ago i was hoping there was a laywer who would read this lol

08/02/2006, 11:13 AM	#7
schnell76 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central FL Posts: 161	What are the blasting in ft. lauderdale area, I though us in FL had only sand and sinkholes

08/02/2006, 11:19 AM	#8
ukcats Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 14	They are absolutely responsible for the damage they do to your house through the course of running their business, provided its proved that the damage IS caused by the blasting. The law is usually based upon people acting reasonably and most laws are made to make sense to reasonable people. Most people would believe that (unless you signed something to the contrary or it was disclosed to you) you should be able to live in home without having your concrete crack due to blasting! I would contact the company, but you may have to contact an attorney to represent you. Again, THEY are responsible to the individual if they damage property during the course of running their business. It doesn't matter if they can help it or not or whether they are neglignet (which they may not be). Look into it and good luck! As far as your aquarium? If the percussions are enough to crack concrete then over time they may harm the seals of your aquarium (in my opinion).

08/02/2006, 11:26 AM	#10
Knoxville Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Home: Rock Hill, SC \| School: Greenville, NC Posts: 20	Is the tank sitting bare or supported? What I mean is lets say you have a dampening material like foam under your tank. That could help alleviate some of the residual ground tremors.

08/02/2006, 11:33 AM	#11
shawk Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 155	i know in AZ that anytime you do blasting that you have to put sizemographes(spelling) near any homes to see home much you are moving them. you can also be held responsible for any damage caused by the blasts

08/02/2006, 12:15 PM	#13
sufunk Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Davie, Florida Posts: 2,004	I'd say regardless of wether you knew or not, you probably have a claim for damages to your house. p.s.- i'm also in Ft. Laud., where is this? never heard of quarrying around here. I'm a criminal attorney and I may be able to put you in touch with some civil attorneys, pm me.

08/02/2006, 12:18 PM	#14
goda Moved On Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fortlauderdale florida area Posts: 1,874	i called tenecor low quailty cause htey are.. the seals are filled with bubbles... ( i know about 5 years ago tenecor was great... tough hard acrylic.. ith bubble free seals.. but now its softer acrylic and... yeah) anyways. they are blasting for the coral stone i think... its right on the everglades ( im near ft lauderdale.. not actualy in it... close to boca ) "You may have legal recourse if the mine was not disclosed when you purchased the home or if you were told it was closed down. You may want to contact a local real estate attorney." well our relitor said it was just cnstruction of a lake... later found out its a quarry

08/02/2006, 12:25 PM	#15
sufunk Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Davie, Florida Posts: 2,004	I'm not sure but i'll bet that regardless of any notice they have to do their business WITHOUT damaging your house.

08/02/2006, 12:40 PM	#16
crypticghost Moved On Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 90	Trust me, you need to consult an lawyer...Everyone thinks they may be laible, but the law is usualy on the side of businesses...Its really hard to say if they will be or not...If it was there before your house, then more then likely you have no case...kind of the bad of who decided to build the house and your bad for not really researching. I do not agree with the blasting and what it is doing to your house, but the law is not as fair as everyone thinks...I would contact the city and I am sure they will send someone out to look at the house and its fondation. Keep us posted. But you need to do it sooner then later, there may be a statue of limitations, possibly not, but still the sooner the better.

08/02/2006, 12:48 PM	#17
goda Moved On Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fortlauderdale florida area Posts: 1,874	will do

08/02/2006, 01:42 PM	#19
DamnDamsel Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York Posts: 176	So THATS where they get all that rock they are aquaculturing in the gulf! j/k well i think i am j/k

08/02/2006, 01:55 PM	#20
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Get the neighbors together and go to city hall. Or get a lawyer. A judge can enjoin just about anything he likes, if he's convinced. Look up Lawton OK. The government thought they'd test sonic booms on Lawton back in the 50's, because the town being right next the big artillery range was not going to flinch at a few booms. SO they assigned planes to break the sound barrier over Lawton several times a day. Well, we were used to Atomic Annie and Coffin Clara, and even tolerated Atomic Annie blowing a hole in a lady's icebox inside Lawton, but that did it: foundations broke and walls fell off houses all over town. Ordinarily you don't get much of anywhere suing the feds. This time the feds paid, and the booms stopped. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.