green Carpet Anemone question

newreef06 · 08/06/2006, 03:14 PM

I bought a green carpet Anemone yesterday. It moved all over the tank. Today I checked it. Its still alive. But the cells dont seem to be sticking to anything. I had a plastic rod I touched it to the cells and it didnt stick. Yesterday it did. I did not poke it just lightly put it on the cells. Also I have a true purcula clown fish. How long before he goes in it. Is there a way I can get him to go in it

Scott

newreef06 · 08/06/2006, 03:14 PM

I bought a green carpet Anemone yesterday. It moved all over the tank. Today I checked it. Its still alive. But the cells dont seem to be sticking to anything. I had a plastic rod I touched it to the cells and it didnt stick. Yesterday it did. I did not poke it just lightly put it on the cells. Also I have a true purcula clown fish. How long before he goes in it. Is there a way I can get him to go in it

Scott

newreef06 · 08/06/2006, 03:14 PM

I bought a green carpet Anemone yesterday. It moved all over the tank. Today I checked it. Its still alive. But the cells dont seem to be sticking to anything. I had a plastic rod I touched it to the cells and it didnt stick. Yesterday it did. I did not poke it just lightly put it on the cells. Also I have a true purcula clown fish. How long before he goes in it. Is there a way I can get him to go in it

Scott

ladyfsu · 08/06/2006, 03:17 PM

Give it a while...my clown took 4 days then went nuts...thank god he doesn't have teeth or else I'd have a whole lot of holes in my hand where he attacks me because he's protecting his anemone.

Same with the anemone...it might take a few days (even weeks) for him to be in a "happy place." If he goes to a place you like him to be at, make sure you feed him chunks of stuff (i give raw shrimp from my grocery store) so he is happy and doens't need to look elsewhere.

jerehmy · 08/06/2006, 03:18 PM

it may be in shock, check all water perams and then give him a chance to acclimate to your tank, it may take a few days

reeferman06 · 08/06/2006, 03:28 PM

make sure your light are bright enough, they need high light

55semireef · 08/06/2006, 03:32 PM

first off, you made three of the same thread. I have never seen a triple post thread before.

First off, an anemone that is moving a lot all over the tank is not a good sign. That means he can't find a place where there is enough light, or not enough flow or too much flow etc.

I just got a Bluecarpet 2 days ago and I picked out one spot for him and never moved again. Carpets need strong lighting so what kind of lighting do you have? Remember its not all about watts per gallon especially if its a tall tank.

A Percula does not naturally host S. Haddoni. In fact most don't even if thats the only invert to host. And if the percula does decide to host often times a Carpet will dine on them. Its only occasionally that carpets will let percs host them. Its not gauranteed thing for them to host but its also not unheard of.

Can I see a full shot of your tank and than a shot of your carpet?

Hope that helps

newreef06 · 08/06/2006, 03:43 PM

I have a 55g tankwith Current 260 watt pC

bluerug · 08/06/2006, 03:46 PM

I would say this is borderline for a hadoni. But good luck with it. If you can upgrade your lighting.

bluerug · 08/06/2006, 03:47 PM

I also would love to see a pic of it. I may be getting some greens in the near future.

55semireef · 08/06/2006, 04:09 PM

Nope...not strong enough lighting. Thats the kind of lighting i just got rid of so I could keep a carpet. Like I said, its not watts per gallon but PAR that matters. Carpet anemones are sand dwellers. They don't go on the rocks unless they are looking for more light. PC does not have very good penetration and I think your ballast is maxed out. You have 4x65 watts of PC. You could have 4x55 watts and it would still be basically the same things because of your ballast.

I have Tek T5s. A much better choice. Very strong light penetration and puts out a ton of light with the individual reflectors. I forget how many lumens per watt it gets but defnately a lot more than PC or VHO for that matter. Its comparable to MH. I would look for new lighting or switch out anemones.

Usually if an anemone is going to spend a lot of time looking for a spot, there isn't one in the tank. Most likely it will slowly whither away over a 6 month time span. PC is just not cutting.

BTW Bluecarpet, you don't want borderline for anything. These are delicate creatures that thrive off intense light. Borderline is not going to benefit it, just keep it alive temporarily.

jerehmy · 08/06/2006, 04:12 PM

OUCH that was harsh!

55semireef · 08/06/2006, 04:15 PM

I am not going to be warm and fuzzy. I am just going to give the straight up facts. Sorry.

druce · 08/06/2006, 04:52 PM

I've had my carpet for about a year now, and had him under PC lighting up until 2 days ago when I got my MH setup. He DOUBLED in size, and seems to do well. He isn't always sticky, at least mine isn't - only when he is hungry will he get stickey.

As far as feeding, I feed mine Frozen krill, every 3 days - about a 50 cent size piece. For waterflow they don't like direct, but you need some movement around him otherwise they will move.

My false perc (both of them) hosted in the carpet about 10 days after I got him. I've changed tanks, and moved since then, and every time I separate the clowns and the anemone they seem to rehost him within mins of being in the same tank.

FWIW the tank I started with was a 55 with 260 watts of PC lighting. So I know it can be done..

newreef06 · 08/06/2006, 04:57 PM

My friend has the same lighting system. Hes had one for almost 3 years. I get rid of it because it was getting to big for his tank. Mine is not going on the rocks. It just stuck it self on one single rock in the sand bed. I think it will be ok. It seems to have been in the same place since last night.

druce · 08/06/2006, 05:02 PM

I had dug a hole in the sand to the tank bottom and for the first 10 or so months he had stayed stuck to the glass bottom. After I moved he seemed to stick his foot under a little rock ledge and leans out. I fought him for about 2 weeks and kept trying to move him back to the sand, but he seems happy now, so why mess with a good thing

Glad to hear he's staying put. I have found too that mine will start to move after about 5 days with no food - but if i stick to my feeding of every 3 days he stays put.

I wonder who is trained? Me or the Anenome??

55semireef · 08/06/2006, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by druce
I had dug a hole in the sand to the tank bottom and for the first 10 or so months he had stayed stuck to the glass bottom. After I moved he seemed to stick his foot under a little rock ledge and leans out. I fought him for about 2 weeks and kept trying to move him back to the sand, but he seems happy now, so why mess with a good thing

Glad to hear he's staying put. I have found too that mine will start to move after about 5 days with no food - but if i stick to my feeding of every 3 days he stays put.

I wonder who is trained? Me or the Anenome??

You do realize that anemones live many many years in the wild...a much higher lifespan than in a tank. Want to know why?

Because its the ocean. Always strong light, good current and clean water. The second we become lazy about our tanks is the second our tank becomes in bad health.

Some get lucky I guess. Others don't. More remains to it than the question...is this enough light?

druce · 08/06/2006, 06:12 PM

hey - luck, good reefkeeping, bad reefkeeping whatever... I'm not here to debate anything, just to say that I had luck with the same setup as this guy did, and offered some of my expierience

take it or leave it, intrepret how you want....

55semireef · 08/06/2006, 06:21 PM

I am saying that you got lucky and you had good reefkeeping...I have seen some carpets do horrible under pcs (yes haddonis) and others ones do as well as yours.

Its great advice...I am taking it.

druce · 08/06/2006, 06:24 PM

sorry, don't mean to come off all hot...

Maybe I was lucky, I mean my lights were brand new, and when the bulbs needed to be replaced I just upgraded to MH... so...

I do know that I feed mine more often than others I talk to, and it seems to be a bit more too. That could be another reason why mine did well?

55semireef · 08/06/2006, 06:26 PM

Good water conditons, fed well, no pH swings, no predators, didn't have to move, bought it healthy...lots of things...

Your probably more skilled than you were lucky.

druce · 08/06/2006, 06:49 PM

hrmm, don't tell anyone that

btw, the trick to getting the perc to host is to give up on wanting it to host. After I got my carpet I was so excited to see the fish host it, only to do some research and find that it's highly unlikely. Shortly after I abandoned my dreams of him hosting in my tank, my perc hosted.

it's worth a shot right?

55semireef · 08/06/2006, 07:35 PM

Definately worth a shot. I am hoping that my female tomato will switch from my hammer coral to my bluecarpet. Looks like you have a blucecarpet too.

druce · 08/06/2006, 07:42 PM

he was sold as a green, but is more of a white with green specs

that pic is under a moon lite

55semireef · 08/06/2006, 07:50 PM

that moon light makes it really look blue.

08/06/2006, 03:14 PM	#1
newreef06 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Western Ma Posts: 822	green Carpet Anemone question I bought a green carpet Anemone yesterday. It moved all over the tank. Today I checked it. Its still alive. But the cells dont seem to be sticking to anything. I had a plastic rod I touched it to the cells and it didnt stick. Yesterday it did. I did not poke it just lightly put it on the cells. Also I have a true purcula clown fish. How long before he goes in it. Is there a way I can get him to go in it Scott

08/06/2006, 03:14 PM	#2
newreef06 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Western Ma Posts: 822	green Carpet Anemone question I bought a green carpet Anemone yesterday. It moved all over the tank. Today I checked it. Its still alive. But the cells dont seem to be sticking to anything. I had a plastic rod I touched it to the cells and it didnt stick. Yesterday it did. I did not poke it just lightly put it on the cells. Also I have a true purcula clown fish. How long before he goes in it. Is there a way I can get him to go in it Scott

08/06/2006, 03:14 PM	#3
newreef06 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Western Ma Posts: 822	green Carpet Anemone question I bought a green carpet Anemone yesterday. It moved all over the tank. Today I checked it. Its still alive. But the cells dont seem to be sticking to anything. I had a plastic rod I touched it to the cells and it didnt stick. Yesterday it did. I did not poke it just lightly put it on the cells. Also I have a true purcula clown fish. How long before he goes in it. Is there a way I can get him to go in it Scott

08/06/2006, 03:17 PM	#4
ladyfsu Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pasco County, FL Posts: 1,775	Give it a while...my clown took 4 days then went nuts...thank god he doesn't have teeth or else I'd have a whole lot of holes in my hand where he attacks me because he's protecting his anemone. Same with the anemone...it might take a few days (even weeks) for him to be in a "happy place." If he goes to a place you like him to be at, make sure you feed him chunks of stuff (i give raw shrimp from my grocery store) so he is happy and doens't need to look elsewhere. __________________ Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming!!! Current Tank Info: 55-g at home, and lots at work

08/06/2006, 03:18 PM	#5
jerehmy Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: san diego Posts: 511	it may be in shock, check all water perams and then give him a chance to acclimate to your tank, it may take a few days __________________ Fish are the best medecine for body and mind Current Tank Info: 55g, 40g, 29gx2, 60g, 10g African Cichlids (Breeders) 40g SW Reef with a 20g sump/refugium 75lbs prime LR Mag 9.5 SCWD and Remora skimmer, 2x96w PC's

08/06/2006, 03:28 PM	#6
reeferman06 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Raleigh/Down by the river side Posts: 440	make sure your light are bright enough, they need high light __________________ Marrel Current Tank Info: 55 gallon reef- 2x 110w Actinic VHO's 2x 175w 14k Metal Halides, Pair of Saddle back Clowns, SPS, Colt Coral, shrooms, LPS, Bubble coral, Hammer, Crocea, Zoanthinds, Xenia, Blasto

08/06/2006, 03:32 PM	#7
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	first off, you made three of the same thread. I have never seen a triple post thread before. First off, an anemone that is moving a lot all over the tank is not a good sign. That means he can't find a place where there is enough light, or not enough flow or too much flow etc. I just got a Bluecarpet 2 days ago and I picked out one spot for him and never moved again. Carpets need strong lighting so what kind of lighting do you have? Remember its not all about watts per gallon especially if its a tall tank. A Percula does not naturally host S. Haddoni. In fact most don't even if thats the only invert to host. And if the percula does decide to host often times a Carpet will dine on them. Its only occasionally that carpets will let percs host them. Its not gauranteed thing for them to host but its also not unheard of. Can I see a full shot of your tank and than a shot of your carpet? Hope that helps

08/06/2006, 03:43 PM	#8
newreef06 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Western Ma Posts: 822	I have a 55g tankwith Current 260 watt pC

08/06/2006, 03:46 PM	#9
bluerug Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando Posts: 2,007	I would say this is borderline for a hadoni. But good luck with it. If you can upgrade your lighting.

08/06/2006, 03:47 PM	#10
bluerug Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando Posts: 2,007	I also would love to see a pic of it. I may be getting some greens in the near future.

08/06/2006, 04:09 PM	#11
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	Nope...not strong enough lighting. Thats the kind of lighting i just got rid of so I could keep a carpet. Like I said, its not watts per gallon but PAR that matters. Carpet anemones are sand dwellers. They don't go on the rocks unless they are looking for more light. PC does not have very good penetration and I think your ballast is maxed out. You have 4x65 watts of PC. You could have 4x55 watts and it would still be basically the same things because of your ballast. I have Tek T5s. A much better choice. Very strong light penetration and puts out a ton of light with the individual reflectors. I forget how many lumens per watt it gets but defnately a lot more than PC or VHO for that matter. Its comparable to MH. I would look for new lighting or switch out anemones. Usually if an anemone is going to spend a lot of time looking for a spot, there isn't one in the tank. Most likely it will slowly whither away over a 6 month time span. PC is just not cutting. BTW Bluecarpet, you don't want borderline for anything. These are delicate creatures that thrive off intense light. Borderline is not going to benefit it, just keep it alive temporarily.

08/06/2006, 04:12 PM	#12
jerehmy Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: san diego Posts: 511	OUCH that was harsh! __________________ Fish are the best medecine for body and mind Current Tank Info: 55g, 40g, 29gx2, 60g, 10g African Cichlids (Breeders) 40g SW Reef with a 20g sump/refugium 75lbs prime LR Mag 9.5 SCWD and Remora skimmer, 2x96w PC's

08/06/2006, 04:15 PM	#13
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	I am not going to be warm and fuzzy. I am just going to give the straight up facts. Sorry.

08/06/2006, 04:52 PM	#14
druce Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Liberty, IA Posts: 1,349	I've had my carpet for about a year now, and had him under PC lighting up until 2 days ago when I got my MH setup. He DOUBLED in size, and seems to do well. He isn't always sticky, at least mine isn't - only when he is hungry will he get stickey. As far as feeding, I feed mine Frozen krill, every 3 days - about a 50 cent size piece. For waterflow they don't like direct, but you need some movement around him otherwise they will move. My false perc (both of them) hosted in the carpet about 10 days after I got him. I've changed tanks, and moved since then, and every time I separate the clowns and the anemone they seem to rehost him within mins of being in the same tank. FWIW the tank I started with was a 55 with 260 watts of PC lighting. So I know it can be done.. __________________ Click the red house to see tank pics and my blog and to get the link for my RC tank thread! Current Tank Info: 90 gal AGA RR, 55 gal long for sump, 17g Aquafuge pro as refugium - 2x 150w MH, 2x 96w Actinic

08/06/2006, 04:57 PM	#15
newreef06 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Western Ma Posts: 822	My friend has the same lighting system. Hes had one for almost 3 years. I get rid of it because it was getting to big for his tank. Mine is not going on the rocks. It just stuck it self on one single rock in the sand bed. I think it will be ok. It seems to have been in the same place since last night.

08/06/2006, 05:02 PM	#16
druce Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Liberty, IA Posts: 1,349	I had dug a hole in the sand to the tank bottom and for the first 10 or so months he had stayed stuck to the glass bottom. After I moved he seemed to stick his foot under a little rock ledge and leans out. I fought him for about 2 weeks and kept trying to move him back to the sand, but he seems happy now, so why mess with a good thing Glad to hear he's staying put. I have found too that mine will start to move after about 5 days with no food - but if i stick to my feeding of every 3 days he stays put. I wonder who is trained? Me or the Anenome?? __________________ Click the red house to see tank pics and my blog and to get the link for my RC tank thread! Current Tank Info: 90 gal AGA RR, 55 gal long for sump, 17g Aquafuge pro as refugium - 2x 150w MH, 2x 96w Actinic

08/06/2006, 06:12 PM	#18
druce Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Liberty, IA Posts: 1,349	hey - luck, good reefkeeping, bad reefkeeping whatever... I'm not here to debate anything, just to say that I had luck with the same setup as this guy did, and offered some of my expierience take it or leave it, intrepret how you want.... __________________ Click the red house to see tank pics and my blog and to get the link for my RC tank thread! Current Tank Info: 90 gal AGA RR, 55 gal long for sump, 17g Aquafuge pro as refugium - 2x 150w MH, 2x 96w Actinic

08/06/2006, 06:21 PM	#19
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	I am saying that you got lucky and you had good reefkeeping...I have seen some carpets do horrible under pcs (yes haddonis) and others ones do as well as yours. Its great advice...I am taking it.

08/06/2006, 06:24 PM	#20
druce Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Liberty, IA Posts: 1,349	sorry, don't mean to come off all hot... Maybe I was lucky, I mean my lights were brand new, and when the bulbs needed to be replaced I just upgraded to MH... so... I do know that I feed mine more often than others I talk to, and it seems to be a bit more too. That could be another reason why mine did well? __________________ Click the red house to see tank pics and my blog and to get the link for my RC tank thread! Current Tank Info: 90 gal AGA RR, 55 gal long for sump, 17g Aquafuge pro as refugium - 2x 150w MH, 2x 96w Actinic

08/06/2006, 06:26 PM	#21
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	Good water conditons, fed well, no pH swings, no predators, didn't have to move, bought it healthy...lots of things... Your probably more skilled than you were lucky.

08/06/2006, 06:49 PM	#22
druce Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Liberty, IA Posts: 1,349	hrmm, don't tell anyone that btw, the trick to getting the perc to host is to give up on wanting it to host. After I got my carpet I was so excited to see the fish host it, only to do some research and find that it's highly unlikely. Shortly after I abandoned my dreams of him hosting in my tank, my perc hosted. it's worth a shot right? __________________ Click the red house to see tank pics and my blog and to get the link for my RC tank thread! Current Tank Info: 90 gal AGA RR, 55 gal long for sump, 17g Aquafuge pro as refugium - 2x 150w MH, 2x 96w Actinic

08/06/2006, 07:35 PM	#23
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	Definately worth a shot. I am hoping that my female tomato will switch from my hammer coral to my bluecarpet. Looks like you have a blucecarpet too.

08/06/2006, 07:42 PM	#24
druce Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Liberty, IA Posts: 1,349	he was sold as a green, but is more of a white with green specs that pic is under a moon lite __________________ Click the red house to see tank pics and my blog and to get the link for my RC tank thread! Current Tank Info: 90 gal AGA RR, 55 gal long for sump, 17g Aquafuge pro as refugium - 2x 150w MH, 2x 96w Actinic

08/06/2006, 07:50 PM	#25
55semireef Moved On Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,322	that moon light makes it really look blue.