rotting goniopora!!

adrian75 · 08/20/2006, 11:06 PM

i have had a goniopora for quite somtime, and has seemed healthy with bright colour and extended phoylps, however a while ago it 's phoylps weren't extended, only a few every now and then, and in the last couple of days one side has started rotting, slowly engulfing to rest of the coral.

is there ANYTHING i can do, help i like this coral.

coker98 · 08/20/2006, 11:50 PM

after the coral gets brown slime covering it, it usually is a goner. sorry to tell you this.

adrian75 · 08/21/2006, 02:06 AM

ok, should i take it out. or somthing??

boomsticks · 08/21/2006, 09:26 AM

Yes removal is the best route as of now.

masterqaz · 08/21/2006, 10:34 AM

unfortunatly thats what goni does..... Its pretty hard to keep. Average ppl can keep them for 6 months with no problems but then for some reason the corals just turn and start to go down hill. Not saying there impossible to keep but if my tank was a new one or smaller i wouldnt touch one of those with a 10 foot poll.

coltsfan80 · 08/21/2006, 01:27 PM

I have a green goniopora that got brown jelly, I treated it with calcium and iodine dips for about a week and a half and I havent had any sign of the brown jelly for about 2 weeks. About 75-80% of the flesh is gone but he is still alive. So it isnt completely hopeless. Good luck

rigleautomotive · 08/21/2006, 01:42 PM

the branching ones survival rate is much higher.they can live in captivity indefinately

masterqaz · 08/21/2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by coltsfan80
I have a green goniopora that got brown jelly, I treated it with calcium and iodine dips for about a week and a half and I havent had any sign of the brown jelly for about 2 weeks. About 75-80% of the flesh is gone but he is still alive. So it isnt completely hopeless. Good luck

This is true, but the treatment doesnt heal the coral it just stops the brown slime from advancing/stops it.

masterqaz · 08/21/2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by rigleautomotive
the branching ones survival rate is much higher.they can live in captivity indefinately

You talking about alveapora? It looks the same but it branches and if you look at the polyps there are only 12 tenticles not 24 like the goni.

hodsgod · 08/21/2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by masterqaz
You talking about alveapora? It looks the same but it branches and if you look at the polyps there are only 12 tenticles not 24 like the goni.

I can keep the branching alveapora, but lost a gniopora to the dreaded rot. It's incredible how so many of us have exactly the same experiences.

DgenR8 · 08/21/2006, 06:37 PM

Very few people report any real success keeping Goniopora, and I don't believe the majority of those that do.

John Kelly · 08/22/2006, 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by hodsgod
I can keep the branching alveapora, but lost a gniopora to the dreaded rot. It's incredible how so many of us have exactly the same experiences.

The vast majority of brown jelly issues with "Green" Goniopora could be avoided if the coral were merely handled and placed properly. This is why so many have "exactly the same experiences". In these instances, the brown jelly begins in areas around the lower perimeter of the coral and works its way up.

The remaining minority of brown jelly instances arise as secondary issues, usually after a longer period of decline from starvation, bleaching, cyanobacteria growing under the tissue, etc..

hodsgod · 08/22/2006, 07:28 AM

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Originally posted by John Kelly
The vast majority of brown jelly issues with "Green" Goniopora could be avoided if the coral were merely handled and placed properly. This is why so many have "exactly the same experiences". In these instances, the brown jelly begins in areas around the lower perimeter of the coral and works its way up.

The remaining minority of brown jelly instances arise as secondary issues, usually after a longer period of decline from starvation, bleaching, cyanobacteria growing under the tissue, etc..

That exactly describes the problem I had, and I tried on rock and on a DSB. What is the answer?

John Kelly · 08/22/2006, 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by DgenR8
Very few people report any real success keeping Goniopora, and I don't believe the majority of those that do.

....But, at least progress is being made and questions are being answered.

It will take time for the information to trickle UP.

hodsgod · 08/22/2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by John Kelly
The vast majority of brown jelly issues with "Green" Goniopora could be avoided if the coral were merely handled and placed properly. This is why so many have "exactly the same experiences". In these instances, the brown jelly begins in areas around the lower perimeter of the coral and works its way up.

The remaining minority of brown jelly instances arise as secondary issues, usually after a longer period of decline from starvation, bleaching, cyanobacteria growing under the tissue, etc..

That exactly describes the problem I had, and I tried on rock and on a DSB. What is the answer?

masterqaz · 08/22/2006, 11:11 PM

either or. They will live on the sand or on the rock. I prefer rock over sand since cyano etc usually start on the sand. One of the biggest problems is the right type of flow. Most ppl just put them were ever when they actually need to be in a some whatgentle turbulent flow. The other thing may be coral incompatibility, For instance elegance. If you have both of these corals in the same system they will combat it out through the water column. i also believe that they dont like the toxins that leathers put out, Not alot of things do.

08/20/2006, 11:06 PM	#1
adrian75 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Albury, Australia Posts: 92	rotting goniopora!! i have had a goniopora for quite somtime, and has seemed healthy with bright colour and extended phoylps, however a while ago it 's phoylps weren't extended, only a few every now and then, and in the last couple of days one side has started rotting, slowly engulfing to rest of the coral. is there ANYTHING i can do, help i like this coral.

08/21/2006, 09:26 AM	#4
boomsticks Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Good ol NH Posts: 547	Yes removal is the best route as of now. __________________ Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive anyway. Current Tank Info: 55 gal reef, 24 cube

08/21/2006, 01:42 PM	#7
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	the branching ones survival rate is much higher.they can live in captivity indefinately __________________ Dan Rigle President, * Reef Conservation Society TOTM December 2010 Coral Magazine Sept/Oct 2012 Current Tank Info: 180 gal SPS dominated display, 3 X 250 watt Radiums , lumenarc III minis , with VHO actinics, ETS downdraft skimmers, closed loops and 2 Tunze 6105 & 7095 controller,DIY calcium reactors DIY custom built sumps,since 1992

08/21/2006, 06:37 PM	#11
DgenR8 I'm an American and I remember Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 43,992	Very few people report any real success keeping Goniopora, and I don't believe the majority of those that do. __________________ “I wish there was a way to know that you were IN the good old days, before leaving them.” ~Andy Bernard Regional Manager, Scranton branch Dunder Mifflin Current Tank Info: Unknown slow drip, over 20 years damaged my house and heating system. No more tank.

08/20/2006, 11:50 PM	#2
coker98 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 594	after the coral gets brown slime covering it, it usually is a goner. sorry to tell you this.

08/21/2006, 02:06 AM	#3
adrian75 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Albury, Australia Posts: 92	ok, should i take it out. or somthing??

08/21/2006, 10:34 AM	#5
masterqaz Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oakville Ont. Canada Posts: 551	unfortunatly thats what goni does..... Its pretty hard to keep. Average ppl can keep them for 6 months with no problems but then for some reason the corals just turn and start to go down hill. Not saying there impossible to keep but if my tank was a new one or smaller i wouldnt touch one of those with a 10 foot poll.

08/21/2006, 01:27 PM	#6
coltsfan80 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: indianapolis Posts: 128	I have a green goniopora that got brown jelly, I treated it with calcium and iodine dips for about a week and a half and I havent had any sign of the brown jelly for about 2 weeks. About 75-80% of the flesh is gone but he is still alive. So it isnt completely hopeless. Good luck

08/22/2006, 11:11 PM	#16
masterqaz Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oakville Ont. Canada Posts: 551	either or. They will live on the sand or on the rock. I prefer rock over sand since cyano etc usually start on the sand. One of the biggest problems is the right type of flow. Most ppl just put them were ever when they actually need to be in a some whatgentle turbulent flow. The other thing may be coral incompatibility, For instance elegance. If you have both of these corals in the same system they will combat it out through the water column. i also believe that they dont like the toxins that leathers put out, Not alot of things do.