Seio pumps anyone using them?

fishtk75 · 08/27/2006, 05:12 AM

Anyone using them and how are they working for you and what size for a 120?

old salty · 08/27/2006, 07:53 AM

I have four of them - 2 1500's and 2 620's. I am about to swap the 620's with 2 1500's as my tank could use more flow.

The 1500's are a bit difficult to restart, but the price is pretty good for the flow achieved. Some day, I will splurge for the Tunze units, but they just aren't in the budget at the moment.

mavgi · 08/27/2006, 06:25 PM

i have 3 m2600 in my 120 and they working great .

old salty · 08/27/2006, 07:01 PM

Update:

I should have known better than to think that a RIO by any other name was something else. I rearranged my tank and decided to clean the 1500. Well, after 100 tries (literally), it won't restart. Considering that it's about 6 months old, I'd say it's pretty typical of anything made in Taiwan. This is the one place on my tank that I didn't fork over money for the better units and am now regretting that decision. You get what you pay for.....

I am in charge of the demolition range in mid September, so I plan on strapping a block of C4 to this wonderful piece of engineering and hopefully send it back to the factory that made it.

Jayreefer · 08/27/2006, 09:29 PM

I have two 1100s for 6 mounths that I have never had a problem with. I also have a 620 that never wants to restart. I know have two more 1100s on order.

fishtk75 · 08/29/2006, 04:45 AM

thanks

RichConley · 08/29/2006, 08:35 AM

2 820s for 2 years now. They start up every time, no problems. I've never even cleaned them.

raskal311 · 08/29/2006, 08:44 AM

I've had 2 M1500 and 2 m820 in my tank for a long time and have never had a problem starting them. I turn them off once or twice a day for feeding.

King-Kong · 08/29/2006, 10:40 AM

Sounds like a broken magnet. I had 1 month old 1500 do that to me. Was so angry that after I sent it back to be repaired (and it cost $13 to ship, and I had to enclose $5 for return shipping) I found out you can just buy new shafts for like $15 online.

I have 4 Seios and they now all give me problems restarting after a year. After the 1500 broke I purchased a vortech and replaced two of the Seios. I will be purchasing another Vortech to replace the additional 2 Seios in the future.

mavgi · 08/29/2006, 11:40 AM

i have before problem with broken magnet and i send email to taam with the invoice and they change it for free.

i have one more vortec pump in my tank it's a great pump but the flow from my m2600 it's the same as the vortec. what i don't like in the seio they big and heavy so they always slide down , i have a bare bootom so i decide to put them near to the bottom and use with the vortec in the side.
for the price they are not so bad pump and can give high flow like the expensive pump , and if you have warranty for 1 year from the company i think it will be good for a person that don't have the option to buy the expensive pump . i suggest to put magnet on the pump at this way the pump will not slide.
i use with my some time to flow bubble to the tank for about 5 minute and it's clear all the tank .
here is picture with the seio flow air inside the tank .

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fishtk75 · 08/29/2006, 02:36 PM

All the ones who has them when they say gph does it realy put out as it said?
Need to know then how many and size you all think for a 120?

mavgi · 08/29/2006, 03:35 PM

yes i compare my m2600 (2600gph) to my vortec 3000gph and i can said for sure it's not fall down from the vortec flow (i am not talk about the quality ) i run on my 120 3 seio m2600 on the bottom of my tank (it's bare bottom so no problem with sand flow all over) and one more vortec. but i think you can try 2 of them an after you put them in your tank you can see how they work in the system if you see you need more you can add after. don't forget they will increase some temp in the tank.

vder · 08/29/2006, 03:57 PM

I have 2 820's and an 1100 in the tank for the past 8 months.So far they have been fine.

hodsgod · 08/29/2006, 10:23 PM

I have just added one Seio to my tank (one monthe ago) I also have a restart problem.

The flow is good and I like the large outlet.

fishtk75 · 08/31/2006, 04:20 AM

I forgot to say how do you mount it in the tank I see differant ways that it can be done from them?

mavgi · 08/31/2006, 07:31 AM

if you going to mount them like the tunze you will get the max flow from the pump. the problem with the pump they heavy and can slide down you can modify magnet that will hold them or to buy it. look in the link

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...Category_Code=

RichConley · 08/31/2006, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mavgi
if you going to mount them like the tunze you will get the max flow from the pump. the problem with the pump they heavy and can slide down you can modify magnet that will hold them or to buy it. look in the link

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...Category_Code=

I dont have any of the real big SEIOS, but from personal experience,

THe $8 cleaner magnets from Petco (biggest size,sinking) will hold Seio 820s and Tunze 6060s fine. (the 6060 is huge and weighs a ton)

mavgi · 08/31/2006, 09:42 AM

i want to try one on seio2600 but it's the big one and i don't know if the regular magnet will hold this pump. the cleaner magnet are more thick then those one and the mag 350 it's about $20 . i realy don't know if those can hold the big seio pump the rate them till m1500.

RichConley · 08/31/2006, 09:47 AM

I dont use the magfloats. Theyre nowhere near as strong as the cheapo dark gray non floating ones they have. (theyre also thicker, like you said).

THe 2600s are huge though...so no idea.

You could try neodidyum(spelling?) magnets, in acrylic, for a DIY solution.

package · 08/31/2006, 01:22 PM

I used an old Mag float to hold my 2600. It was the magfloat 350 though so not such a bargain It had about exhausted it's useful life so that is why I used it.

I put a cable tie around the power cord to something up top, sort of extra, just in case.

Mine runs all of the time but sound like a freight train starting up, clicking and knocking.... but it moves a bunch of water.

fishtk75 · 09/01/2006, 04:25 AM

thanks for all ideas

reefworldaq · 09/01/2006, 04:37 AM

I'm use 2 m820 in my 20 gallon nano tank and 2 pump other brand. because i'm use BB tank, so i could increase the flow for sps tank.

boostd2valve · 09/01/2006, 05:32 AM

I have 2 1500's, no problems yet...

kevin gu3 · 09/01/2006, 07:05 AM

I have both a Tunze stream and a SEIO 1500. I have had the impeller seize up on both. On both they siezed when I tried to restart them after turning them off. Followed the instructions for cleaning the calcium deposits and they are both fine.

They both recommend regular decalcification maintainance that I did not do. The good thing is neither pump is harmed when it seizes.

I have a 90 g tank; for a 120 I'd go with three Seio 1500s. The tricky part is how to arrange them so that they are hidden and provide good flow past your live rock. Hint; you can hook the Seios up to PVC to direct their flow, all the way across the tank if you can hide the pipe; its a perfect fit.

fishtk75 · 09/03/2006, 06:09 AM

I got a 820 I hear alot of noise when mounted the way it shows on the box so I put it the other way I makes very little noise that way.
I do not know why it make noise mounted that way or will it stop that does anyone have the way mount has pictured on the box?

I see alot of flow I had to face it up more it was turning up the sand in my 120 that was a one 820.
All of you that have 820 and that have bigger ones what is the way you monut and point them not to blow the tank away?

And it said not to use wave maker on it that means it with burn it up?

08/27/2006, 05:12 AM	#1
fishtk75 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,530	Seio pumps anyone using them? Anyone using them and how are they working for you and what size for a 120?

08/27/2006, 07:53 AM	#2
old salty Genius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Island of Misfit Toys Posts: 3,131	I have four of them - 2 1500's and 2 620's. I am about to swap the 620's with 2 1500's as my tank could use more flow. The 1500's are a bit difficult to restart, but the price is pretty good for the flow achieved. Some day, I will splurge for the Tunze units, but they just aren't in the budget at the moment. __________________ "The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: Out of the marine aquarium hobby

08/27/2006, 07:01 PM	#4
old salty Genius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Island of Misfit Toys Posts: 3,131	Update: I should have known better than to think that a RIO by any other name was something else. I rearranged my tank and decided to clean the 1500. Well, after 100 tries (literally), it won't restart. Considering that it's about 6 months old, I'd say it's pretty typical of anything made in Taiwan. This is the one place on my tank that I didn't fork over money for the better units and am now regretting that decision. You get what you pay for..... I am in charge of the demolition range in mid September, so I plan on strapping a block of C4 to this wonderful piece of engineering and hopefully send it back to the factory that made it. __________________ "The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: Out of the marine aquarium hobby

08/29/2006, 08:35 AM	#7
RichConley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bostonian in Chicago going to DC Posts: 9,908	2 820s for 2 years now. They start up every time, no problems. I've never even cleaned them. __________________ NO TANKS!!!

08/29/2006, 11:40 AM	#10
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	i have before problem with broken magnet and i send email to taam with the invoice and they change it for free. i have one more vortec pump in my tank it's a great pump but the flow from my m2600 it's the same as the vortec. what i don't like in the seio they big and heavy so they always slide down , i have a bare bootom so i decide to put them near to the bottom and use with the vortec in the side. for the price they are not so bad pump and can give high flow like the expensive pump , and if you have warranty for 1 year from the company i think it will be good for a person that don't have the option to buy the expensive pump . i suggest to put magnet on the pump at this way the pump will not slide. i use with my some time to flow bubble to the tank for about 5 minute and it's clear all the tank . here is picture with the seio flow air inside the tank . [IMG][/IMG]

08/27/2006, 06:25 PM	#3
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	i have 3 m2600 in my 120 and they working great .

08/27/2006, 09:29 PM	#5
Jayreefer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Peoria Az Posts: 2,022	I have two 1100s for 6 mounths that I have never had a problem with. I also have a 620 that never wants to restart. I know have two more 1100s on order.

08/29/2006, 04:45 AM	#6
fishtk75 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,530	thanks

08/29/2006, 08:44 AM	#8
raskal311 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Orange County Posts: 5,274	I've had 2 M1500 and 2 m820 in my tank for a long time and have never had a problem starting them. I turn them off once or twice a day for feeding.

08/29/2006, 10:40 AM	#9
King-Kong Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 2,346	Sounds like a broken magnet. I had 1 month old 1500 do that to me. Was so angry that after I sent it back to be repaired (and it cost $13 to ship, and I had to enclose $5 for return shipping) I found out you can just buy new shafts for like $15 online. I have 4 Seios and they now all give me problems restarting after a year. After the 1500 broke I purchased a vortech and replaced two of the Seios. I will be purchasing another Vortech to replace the additional 2 Seios in the future.

08/29/2006, 02:36 PM	#11
fishtk75 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,530	All the ones who has them when they say gph does it realy put out as it said? Need to know then how many and size you all think for a 120?

08/29/2006, 03:35 PM	#12
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	yes i compare my m2600 (2600gph) to my vortec 3000gph and i can said for sure it's not fall down from the vortec flow (i am not talk about the quality ) i run on my 120 3 seio m2600 on the bottom of my tank (it's bare bottom so no problem with sand flow all over) and one more vortec. but i think you can try 2 of them an after you put them in your tank you can see how they work in the system if you see you need more you can add after. don't forget they will increase some temp in the tank.

08/29/2006, 03:57 PM	#13
vder Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Shoreham,NY Posts: 101	I have 2 820's and an 1100 in the tank for the past 8 months.So far they have been fine.

08/29/2006, 10:23 PM	#14
hodsgod Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 155	I have just added one Seio to my tank (one monthe ago) I also have a restart problem. The flow is good and I like the large outlet.

08/31/2006, 04:20 AM	#15
fishtk75 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,530	I forgot to say how do you mount it in the tank I see differant ways that it can be done from them?

08/31/2006, 07:31 AM	#16
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	if you going to mount them like the tunze you will get the max flow from the pump. the problem with the pump they heavy and can slide down you can modify magnet that will hold them or to buy it. look in the link http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...Category_Code=

08/31/2006, 09:42 AM	#18
mavgi Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: queens n.y Posts: 2,209	i want to try one on seio2600 but it's the big one and i don't know if the regular magnet will hold this pump. the cleaner magnet are more thick then those one and the mag 350 it's about $20 . i realy don't know if those can hold the big seio pump the rate them till m1500.

08/31/2006, 09:47 AM	#19
RichConley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bostonian in Chicago going to DC Posts: 9,908	I dont use the magfloats. Theyre nowhere near as strong as the cheapo dark gray non floating ones they have. (theyre also thicker, like you said). THe 2600s are huge though...so no idea. You could try neodidyum(spelling?) magnets, in acrylic, for a DIY solution. __________________ NO TANKS!!!

08/31/2006, 01:22 PM	#20
package Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hurricane, WV Posts: 312	I used an old Mag float to hold my 2600. It was the magfloat 350 though so not such a bargain It had about exhausted it's useful life so that is why I used it. I put a cable tie around the power cord to something up top, sort of extra, just in case. Mine runs all of the time but sound like a freight train starting up, clicking and knocking.... but it moves a bunch of water.

09/01/2006, 04:25 AM	#21
fishtk75 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,530	thanks for all ideas

09/01/2006, 04:37 AM	#22
reefworldaq Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 95	I'm use 2 m820 in my 20 gallon nano tank and 2 pump other brand. because i'm use BB tank, so i could increase the flow for sps tank.

09/01/2006, 05:32 AM	#23
boostd2valve Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 243	I have 2 1500's, no problems yet...

09/01/2006, 07:05 AM	#24
kevin gu3 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Whitmore Lk, MI Posts: 732	I have both a Tunze stream and a SEIO 1500. I have had the impeller seize up on both. On both they siezed when I tried to restart them after turning them off. Followed the instructions for cleaning the calcium deposits and they are both fine. They both recommend regular decalcification maintainance that I did not do. The good thing is neither pump is harmed when it seizes. I have a 90 g tank; for a 120 I'd go with three Seio 1500s. The tricky part is how to arrange them so that they are hidden and provide good flow past your live rock. Hint; you can hook the Seios up to PVC to direct their flow, all the way across the tank if you can hide the pipe; its a perfect fit. __________________ Divert all money to life support. Your wallet will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. Current Tank Info: 90g reef, 29g anemone exile tank

09/03/2006, 06:09 AM	#25
fishtk75 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,530	I got a 820 I hear alot of noise when mounted the way it shows on the box so I put it the other way I makes very little noise that way. I do not know why it make noise mounted that way or will it stop that does anyone have the way mount has pictured on the box? I see alot of flow I had to face it up more it was turning up the sand in my 120 that was a one 820. All of you that have 820 and that have bigger ones what is the way you monut and point them not to blow the tank away? And it said not to use wave maker on it that means it with burn it up?