ATI Powermodule Hybrid Club

rodneyri · 03/18/2013, 04:38 AM

Today I received my new ATI Hybrid's, they are the 8x54w + 3x75w LED versions. To say the least I was excited to find them at my office early in the morning...meaning a long day at work waiting to get home.

Here is the unboxing of the new toy

next to a standard 8x54w Powermodule

Full review to come, but so far on my tank PAR at the bottom is 590 with all lamps on. Note - brand new T5 bulbs not even gone through wear in period.

If youve had a PM before, this is the same top build quality.

Lamp....well bright, super bright!

I thought the chord on the side would be awkward....its not, acutally prefer it as it doenst tilt the light at all...from the top it would tilt the lamp. The chord is really really thick!

Light on the tank looks almost like a MH/T5 combo light, all the advantages of LED plus the advantages of T5.

Stay tunes

SPotter · 03/18/2013, 04:43 AM

Did you replace the mitras? I'm thinking about replacing my PAC Sun Led/t5 with either a sunpower or the new model. Can you tell me what size tank you this on?

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Drae · 03/18/2013, 04:54 AM

More like " country club." at them prices! lol.

Michigan Mike · 03/18/2013, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drae

More like " country club." at them prices! lol.

8x54 t5/ 3x75 led
is cheaper than 2 GHL mitras.

Michigan Mike · 03/18/2013, 05:13 AM

Can't wait for the review Rodneyri.

I want to see the PAR numbers of the LEDs and what they compare to and what you think of them.

Having the mitras already and considering how good they are it will be nice to see how the ATI T5/Led combo competes with the best of the best LEDs.

biggles · 03/18/2013, 05:23 AM

Why didn't you trip over the boxes at work, hurt your knee and hobble home early carrying the goodies - can't believe you stayed at work lol

Seriously though, can you share what it is you are looking for from the hybrid that your T5 only unit wasn't giving you as i'm pretty sure you didn't pay that much just for shimmer. I'd buy one in a heartbeat btw if i was wealthier but unfortunately this is as close as i'll ever get to one so i look forward to your updates.

rodneyri · 03/18/2013, 05:26 AM

Spotter-
Yep changing to this light from Mitras, I change lights more than I change my underwear lol Im addicted to the new toys lol Will be going over my 1400x750x500 now til the 2400 comes. These are units in mm

Drae-
They arent cheap but I did get an extremely good price on them

Mike-
Yeah it was cheaper than 2 Mitras, but they are very different beasts...I will be changing globes again, and there is the heat from T5 that LED doesnt put off...but damn they are bright. And yes you can see shimmer with the 8 T5 bulbs on!

Will do a review and vid in a couple of days

SPotter · 03/18/2013, 07:14 AM

So the 60" 8x80w with led would be perfect on my 72x36x28

I have noticed that you change lighting a lot....this hobby will drive you crazy with new toys.

Looking forward to updates and videos!!!

mess7777 · 03/18/2013, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPotter

Did you replace the mitras? I'm thinking about replacing my PAC Sun Led/t5 with either a sunpower or the new model. Can you tell me what size tank you this on?

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not happy with with Pac Sun?

Also Rodney, thought you were lovin' the Mitras? What made you make the change?

SPotter · 03/18/2013, 07:39 AM

Sorry Rodneyri....not trying to derail your thread. Like Rodneyri I like to try new toys when they come out. I always had T5's before I got the Pac Sun which is 4x150w led's and 4x80w T5's. I like the idea of having more t5's than leds.

toofrigginswt · 03/18/2013, 11:43 AM

Great looking fixture! Now I just need to figure out how I can rig some LEDs into my 10x54w powermodule.

this is me · 03/18/2013, 11:52 AM

Great looking fixture!

karsseboom · 03/18/2013, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michigan Mike

Can't wait for the review Rodneyri.

I want to see the PAR numbers of the LEDs and what they compare to and what you think of them.

Having the mitras already and considering how good they are it will be nice to see how the ATI T5/Led combo competes with the best of the best LEDs.

Well considering the original powermdoule with 10x54 is a par monster, I can only think this will have some of the same numbers if not higher.

solitude127 · 03/18/2013, 10:30 PM

How's the programming interface for the fixture?

adamwheel · 03/20/2013, 06:40 PM

Question: I'm currently building a 66"l x 26"w x 24"h aquarium and am torn between the 60" 4 bulb and 8 bulb. SPS dominant.

I'll be doing a bean internal overflow, so the usable area inside the aquarium just got smaller by 3.75". The 8 bulb is 20.5" wide and the 4 bulb is 12" wide.

I have 21.25" usable inches to work with and worry about light spilling outside the aquarium. Should this be a concern?

Wishing there was a 6 bulb.

Thoughts? Thanks in advance?

karsseboom · 03/20/2013, 07:06 PM

I would get the 8 bulb. For a tank that's 26" wide.

Then again you might be able to get by with a 4 bulb since the LEDs should give a nice punch.

Michigan Mike · 03/20/2013, 07:35 PM

How long did you run the mitras anyway?

rodneyri · 03/20/2013, 11:27 PM

So many queries on why the change, I always read about LED/T5 being the ultimate lighting combo so I had to try it out, I like to get new toys too... I update my TV's yearly almost, computers, phones. The Mitras was a really good light, and if I was to go to LED only again the Mitras is the one I would buy, so dont look at my change as a negative to the Mitras - but it will be good to see how a LED/T5 combo works

The software is really basic, you control two banks of 4 T5's and you control each LED cluster individually. Quite simply at a point in time use the sliders to adjust the individual LEDs to the color you like and move to the next time point. Cool feature of the software is it has some ATI bulbs pre-programmed so click that button and the LEDs adjust to the color of the bulb - not sure how accurate but its a nice feature

The LED fans are quite loud, like a MP40 pump when they get going, they speed up and down as needed to cool the LEDs (they run at about 40C), the T5 fans are super quiet. With all this power the lamp does put out some heat.

Color rendering...well what can I say - its a Powermodule on steroids. Its the brightest light I have owned, I will take some more detailed PAR and spectrum readings in the coming weeks when the bulbs have worn in a bit. But at almost 600 PAR on the sandbed its deffinately got some punch!

karsseboom · 03/20/2013, 11:47 PM

I had no idea that was your tank. I saved a picture of your aquascape to template mine when I did it.

rodneyri · 03/20/2013, 11:56 PM

yup thats my WIP, its seen better days had a massive ALK swing and lost some good pieces.

GratefulReef · 03/21/2013, 12:02 AM

If I only had the money!!

AQD_ottawa · 03/21/2013, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodneyri

Yep changing to this light from Mitras, I change lights more than I change my underwear lol Im addicted to the new toys lol Will be going over my 1400x750x500 now til the 2400 comes.

Hi Rodney,

Will the Mitras be going over the new tank?

Going to make a great comparison, old school against new school.

rodneyri · 03/21/2013, 01:56 PM

Ill try do some PAR readings on the weekend of the old vs new and put up a comparison photo, will be good to see the difference.

Drae · 03/21/2013, 02:57 PM

I'm now looking at that light and can't help but to think it might end up being king of the hill. I would no doubt buy one if they were just a few hundred bucks cheaper. Thats one sexy fixture.

Jmason95 · 03/23/2013, 12:03 PM

Nice clean set up!

Do the T5's wash out the LED shimmer? If not, does the shimmer spread throughout the whole tank, or is it centered more or less directly under the bulbs?

Also, how is the heat? Does it get hot enough that it affects the temperature of the tank?

Thanks!

03/18/2013, 04:38 AM	#1
rodneyri Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 822	ATI Powermodule Hybrid Club Today I received my new ATI Hybrid's, they are the 8x54w + 3x75w LED versions. To say the least I was excited to find them at my office early in the morning...meaning a long day at work waiting to get home. Here is the unboxing of the new toy next to a standard 8x54w Powermodule Full review to come, but so far on my tank PAR at the bottom is 590 with all lamps on. Note - brand new T5 bulbs not even gone through wear in period. If youve had a PM before, this is the same top build quality. Lamp....well bright, super bright! I thought the chord on the side would be awkward....its not, acutally prefer it as it doenst tilt the light at all...from the top it would tilt the lamp. The chord is really really thick! Light on the tank looks almost like a MH/T5 combo light, all the advantages of LED plus the advantages of T5. Stay tunes __________________ Too poor starphire - 7ft Reef - Profilux 3 - GHL Doser 2 - Bubble King - RD3 Speedy - Vortech QD40 - Radion G4 Pro -P̵a̵c̵ ̵S̵u̵n̵ ̵

03/18/2013, 04:43 AM	#2
SPotter Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC Posts: 5,691	Did you replace the mitras? I'm thinking about replacing my PAC Sun Led/t5 with either a sunpower or the new model. Can you tell me what size tank you this on? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Steve Am I really doing all of this for a fish tank?????? Current Tank Info: 360g Envision Acrylic Tank, Closed Loops, Vectra L1's, MP40QD's, 400w Radiums, Regal 300ext, Dastaco Ext3 CaRx, Controlled by GHL Profilux

03/18/2013, 05:23 AM	#6
biggles Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 3,907	Why didn't you trip over the boxes at work, hurt your knee and hobble home early carrying the goodies - can't believe you stayed at work lol Seriously though, can you share what it is you are looking for from the hybrid that your T5 only unit wasn't giving you as i'm pretty sure you didn't pay that much just for shimmer. I'd buy one in a heartbeat btw if i was wealthier but unfortunately this is as close as i'll ever get to one so i look forward to your updates. __________________ Andrew

03/18/2013, 05:26 AM	#7
rodneyri Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 822	Spotter- Yep changing to this light from Mitras, I change lights more than I change my underwear lol Im addicted to the new toys lol Will be going over my 1400x750x500 now til the 2400 comes. These are units in mm Drae- They arent cheap but I did get an extremely good price on them Mike- Yeah it was cheaper than 2 Mitras, but they are very different beasts...I will be changing globes again, and there is the heat from T5 that LED doesnt put off...but damn they are bright. And yes you can see shimmer with the 8 T5 bulbs on! Will do a review and vid in a couple of days __________________ Too poor starphire - 7ft Reef - Profilux 3 - GHL Doser 2 - Bubble King - RD3 Speedy - Vortech QD40 - Radion G4 Pro -P̵a̵c̵ ̵S̵u̵n̵ ̵

03/18/2013, 07:14 AM	#8
SPotter Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC Posts: 5,691	So the 60" 8x80w with led would be perfect on my 72x36x28 I have noticed that you change lighting a lot....this hobby will drive you crazy with new toys. Looking forward to updates and videos!!! __________________ Steve Am I really doing all of this for a fish tank?????? Current Tank Info: 360g Envision Acrylic Tank, Closed Loops, Vectra L1's, MP40QD's, 400w Radiums, Regal 300ext, Dastaco Ext3 CaRx, Controlled by GHL Profilux

03/18/2013, 04:54 AM	#3
Drae RAIDER NATION! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: City of sin... Posts: 3,476	More like " country club." at them prices! lol.

03/18/2013, 05:13 AM	#5
Michigan Mike Freedom costs a buckofive Join Date: May 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,002	Can't wait for the review Rodneyri. I want to see the PAR numbers of the LEDs and what they compare to and what you think of them. Having the mitras already and considering how good they are it will be nice to see how the ATI T5/Led combo competes with the best of the best LEDs.

03/18/2013, 07:39 AM	#10
SPotter Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC Posts: 5,691	Sorry Rodneyri....not trying to derail your thread. Like Rodneyri I like to try new toys when they come out. I always had T5's before I got the Pac Sun which is 4x150w led's and 4x80w T5's. I like the idea of having more t5's than leds. __________________ Steve Am I really doing all of this for a fish tank?????? Current Tank Info: 360g Envision Acrylic Tank, Closed Loops, Vectra L1's, MP40QD's, 400w Radiums, Regal 300ext, Dastaco Ext3 CaRx, Controlled by GHL Profilux

03/18/2013, 11:43 AM	#11
toofrigginswt Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 743	Great looking fixture! Now I just need to figure out how I can rig some LEDs into my 10x54w powermodule. __________________ Jonathan

03/18/2013, 11:52 AM	#12
this is me Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,074	Great looking fixture! __________________ Nick When a man talks dirty to a woman, it's sexual harassment. When a woman talks dirty to a man, it's $4.95 per minute. Current Tank Info: Miracle 360 gallons

03/18/2013, 10:30 PM	#14
solitude127 Proud user of IO Salt! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 9,136	How's the programming interface for the fixture? __________________ Mike <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ ReefKeeping.com TOTM Nov 2012 Socalireefs Featured Reef Oct 2011 Current Tank Info: 603020, 8x54 ATI Powermodule, ReefBrite XHO, ATB Elegance 200, Aquamaxx CTech CaRx, Ecotech Vortechs, Apex Controls, WM Ecobak powered. RedSea Reefer 170, MP10, Apex Jr, Ecotech Radion XR15, Aquamaxx WS-1

03/20/2013, 06:40 PM	#15
adamwheel Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Meechigan Posts: 225	Question: I'm currently building a 66"l x 26"w x 24"h aquarium and am torn between the 60" 4 bulb and 8 bulb. SPS dominant. I'll be doing a bean internal overflow, so the usable area inside the aquarium just got smaller by 3.75". The 8 bulb is 20.5" wide and the 4 bulb is 12" wide. I have 21.25" usable inches to work with and worry about light spilling outside the aquarium. Should this be a concern? Wishing there was a 6 bulb. Thoughts? Thanks in advance?

03/20/2013, 07:06 PM	#16
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	I would get the 8 bulb. For a tank that's 26" wide. Then again you might be able to get by with a 4 bulb since the LEDs should give a nice punch.

03/20/2013, 07:35 PM	#17
Michigan Mike Freedom costs a buckofive Join Date: May 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,002	How long did you run the mitras anyway?

03/20/2013, 11:27 PM	#18
rodneyri Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 822	So many queries on why the change, I always read about LED/T5 being the ultimate lighting combo so I had to try it out, I like to get new toys too... I update my TV's yearly almost, computers, phones. The Mitras was a really good light, and if I was to go to LED only again the Mitras is the one I would buy, so dont look at my change as a negative to the Mitras - but it will be good to see how a LED/T5 combo works The software is really basic, you control two banks of 4 T5's and you control each LED cluster individually. Quite simply at a point in time use the sliders to adjust the individual LEDs to the color you like and move to the next time point. Cool feature of the software is it has some ATI bulbs pre-programmed so click that button and the LEDs adjust to the color of the bulb - not sure how accurate but its a nice feature The LED fans are quite loud, like a MP40 pump when they get going, they speed up and down as needed to cool the LEDs (they run at about 40C), the T5 fans are super quiet. With all this power the lamp does put out some heat. Color rendering...well what can I say - its a Powermodule on steroids. Its the brightest light I have owned, I will take some more detailed PAR and spectrum readings in the coming weeks when the bulbs have worn in a bit. But at almost 600 PAR on the sandbed its deffinately got some punch! __________________ Too poor starphire - 7ft Reef - Profilux 3 - GHL Doser 2 - Bubble King - RD3 Speedy - Vortech QD40 - Radion G4 Pro -P̵a̵c̵ ̵S̵u̵n̵ ̵

03/20/2013, 11:47 PM	#19
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	I had no idea that was your tank. I saved a picture of your aquascape to template mine when I did it.

03/20/2013, 11:56 PM	#20
rodneyri Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 822	yup thats my WIP, its seen better days had a massive ALK swing and lost some good pieces. __________________ Too poor starphire - 7ft Reef - Profilux 3 - GHL Doser 2 - Bubble King - RD3 Speedy - Vortech QD40 - Radion G4 Pro -P̵a̵c̵ ̵S̵u̵n̵ ̵

03/21/2013, 12:02 AM	#21
GratefulReef Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: syracuse,ny Posts: 288	If I only had the money!!

03/21/2013, 01:56 PM	#23
rodneyri Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 822	Ill try do some PAR readings on the weekend of the old vs new and put up a comparison photo, will be good to see the difference. __________________ Too poor starphire - 7ft Reef - Profilux 3 - GHL Doser 2 - Bubble King - RD3 Speedy - Vortech QD40 - Radion G4 Pro -P̵a̵c̵ ̵S̵u̵n̵ ̵

03/21/2013, 02:57 PM	#24
Drae RAIDER NATION! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: City of sin... Posts: 3,476	I'm now looking at that light and can't help but to think it might end up being king of the hill. I would no doubt buy one if they were just a few hundred bucks cheaper. Thats one sexy fixture.

03/23/2013, 12:03 PM	#25
Jmason95 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Claremont, California Posts: 422	Nice clean set up! Do the T5's wash out the LED shimmer? If not, does the shimmer spread throughout the whole tank, or is it centered more or less directly under the bulbs? Also, how is the heat? Does it get hot enough that it affects the temperature of the tank? Thanks! __________________ Jeff Current Tank Info: 35x28x20 starphire Lee Mar