Sequence Dart on a WavySea Unit?

elephen · 04/27/2006, 05:42 AM

I currently have a Dart with a 1.5" feed line on a closed loop which outputs to 4 1" returns, the flow literally sucks, it is very low at best.

I'm thinking about ditching the 4 1" returns and running it directly to 1 or 2 WavySea units, think this would work, it would still be on a closed loop.

elephen · 04/27/2006, 07:11 AM

I see on their site it says the regular WavySea unit can handle a max of 2300gph but general recommend 1700gph through the unit.

I may wait for the WaveSea Plus to come out, aparently it'll handle all kinds of pressure and flow.

8BALL_99 · 04/27/2006, 07:12 AM

My Dart is on a OM 8way.. With two 1" outputs on at all times. It blows crabs and fish across my 180.. With 4 you still should have alot of flow.. I would take a good look at your plumbing.. I'm using a 2" feed on mine maybe thats the problem.

elephen · 04/27/2006, 07:46 AM

I'm stuck with 1.5" and there is no way of changing it.

labragg1 · 04/27/2006, 08:08 AM

You might want to just think about changing pumps. I would think that the 1.5" inlet is what is limiting the flow. The 2" inlet on the Darts is the one thing that I don't like about them as the majority of the pumps out their use 1.5" inlets. I bought a Sequence Hammerhead for my CL as I had heard of some people complaining about the Darts not being strong enough. I figured that I could always throttle it back if it was too much. You might also want to check out a Dolphin Ampmaster. When I was researching pumps--I found that many people said that they are quite a bit stronger than Darts--they also use 1.5" inlets. A Dolphin Ampmaster 3000 is rated for about the same flow as a Dart, but several people said it was much stronger. It also only uses around 120watts and is very quiet.
I was going to go with an Ampmaster before I found a steal on a Hammerhead--so we'll see how it goes.
HTH!!!

8BALL_99 · 04/27/2006, 08:26 AM

How bout two 1" inputs.. .. Thats how mine is plumbed.. I have two 1" Bulkheads that run to a 2" T then to the Dart.. That way I dont have to have a 2" hole in the tank just for the intake.
Not a great picture but you can kind of see the input.

elephen · 04/27/2006, 08:48 AM

I might just do that.

I like the fact it only uses ~ 120 watts. That may be the key, I think that going through 1 WavySea Plus would be some massive random flow.

elephen · 04/27/2006, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 8BALL_99
How bout two 1" inputs.. .. Thats how mine is plumbed.. I have two 1" Bulkheads that run to a 2" T then to the Dart.. That way I dont have to have a 2" hole in the tank just for the intake.
Not a great picture but you can kind of see the input.

Can't do that as I already said. The tank is drilled and its been setup for 6 or 7 months now.

labragg1 · 04/27/2006, 09:32 AM

I agree--it would be kickin!!!

Something you also might want to think about--if the Ampmaster gives you quite a bit more flow--you may be able to just get one of the regular WavySea units and split the output--then you could route half of the flow to the WavySea and then the rest back to your 4 returns. You could just put a ball valve or something on the wavysea that way you could control how much or how little flow you have going to it--the rest would go to your existing returns.
Just a thought!!!

elephen · 04/27/2006, 10:22 AM

Nah I want more random flow. Even 2 WavySea units are cheaper then a set of Tunze Streams

elephen · 04/27/2006, 10:23 AM

Appreciate the input though!

04/27/2006, 05:42 AM	#1
elephen Moved On Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kc Posts: 2,763	Sequence Dart on a WavySea Unit? I currently have a Dart with a 1.5" feed line on a closed loop which outputs to 4 1" returns, the flow literally sucks, it is very low at best. I'm thinking about ditching the 4 1" returns and running it directly to 1 or 2 WavySea units, think this would work, it would still be on a closed loop.

04/27/2006, 07:12 AM	#3
8BALL_99 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toney, AL Posts: 3,724	My Dart is on a OM 8way.. With two 1" outputs on at all times. It blows crabs and fish across my 180.. With 4 you still should have alot of flow.. I would take a good look at your plumbing.. I'm using a 2" feed on mine maybe thats the problem. __________________ The problem with political jokes is they get elected. OK, so what's the speed of dark? Why do we drive on the parkway and park in the driveway? Isn't is it a bit unnerving that doctors call what they do "practice"? Current Tank Info: Custom Starfire 300,92Gallon,35 Gallon Hex,Two 40Gallons,125Gallon,

04/27/2006, 08:08 AM	#5
labragg1 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Carthage, MO Posts: 360	You might want to just think about changing pumps. I would think that the 1.5" inlet is what is limiting the flow. The 2" inlet on the Darts is the one thing that I don't like about them as the majority of the pumps out their use 1.5" inlets. I bought a Sequence Hammerhead for my CL as I had heard of some people complaining about the Darts not being strong enough. I figured that I could always throttle it back if it was too much. You might also want to check out a Dolphin Ampmaster. When I was researching pumps--I found that many people said that they are quite a bit stronger than Darts--they also use 1.5" inlets. A Dolphin Ampmaster 3000 is rated for about the same flow as a Dart, but several people said it was much stronger. It also only uses around 120watts and is very quiet. I was going to go with an Ampmaster before I found a steal on a Hammerhead--so we'll see how it goes. HTH!!! __________________ skywalker Current Tank Info: 65gal RR, 29gal Sump, OCT NW-150 Skimmer, T5 Nova Extreme Lighting

04/27/2006, 08:26 AM	#6
8BALL_99 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toney, AL Posts: 3,724	How bout two 1" inputs.. .. Thats how mine is plumbed.. I have two 1" Bulkheads that run to a 2" T then to the Dart.. That way I dont have to have a 2" hole in the tank just for the intake. Not a great picture but you can kind of see the input. __________________ The problem with political jokes is they get elected. OK, so what's the speed of dark? Why do we drive on the parkway and park in the driveway? Isn't is it a bit unnerving that doctors call what they do "practice"? Current Tank Info: Custom Starfire 300,92Gallon,35 Gallon Hex,Two 40Gallons,125Gallon,

04/27/2006, 09:32 AM	#9
labragg1 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Carthage, MO Posts: 360	I agree--it would be kickin!!! Something you also might want to think about--if the Ampmaster gives you quite a bit more flow--you may be able to just get one of the regular WavySea units and split the output--then you could route half of the flow to the WavySea and then the rest back to your 4 returns. You could just put a ball valve or something on the wavysea that way you could control how much or how little flow you have going to it--the rest would go to your existing returns. Just a thought!!! __________________ skywalker Current Tank Info: 65gal RR, 29gal Sump, OCT NW-150 Skimmer, T5 Nova Extreme Lighting

04/27/2006, 07:11 AM	#2
elephen Moved On Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kc Posts: 2,763	I see on their site it says the regular WavySea unit can handle a max of 2300gph but general recommend 1700gph through the unit. I may wait for the WaveSea Plus to come out, aparently it'll handle all kinds of pressure and flow.

04/27/2006, 07:46 AM	#4
elephen Moved On Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kc Posts: 2,763	I'm stuck with 1.5" and there is no way of changing it.

04/27/2006, 08:48 AM	#7
elephen Moved On Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kc Posts: 2,763	I might just do that. I like the fact it only uses ~ 120 watts. That may be the key, I think that going through 1 WavySea Plus would be some massive random flow.

04/27/2006, 10:22 AM	#10
elephen Moved On Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kc Posts: 2,763	Nah I want more random flow. Even 2 WavySea units are cheaper then a set of Tunze Streams

04/27/2006, 10:23 AM	#11
elephen Moved On Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kc Posts: 2,763	Appreciate the input though!