Need ID's on a few Things - Page 2

The_Browns · 01/25/2008, 11:42 PM

What about the snail with hair algae on him, get rid of him or what. I have about 10 snails he is the only one that has it. Or should I just get rid of all the snails?

Salamander · 01/26/2008, 12:49 AM

I'd dry the rock for months. Pull it out and forget about it for a long time. Maybe sometime down the road you can put it in. I'm no hydroid expert and don't know how long "spores" or whatever can survive out of water.

Hydroids are a PITA IMO. They're not as bad as some but they're hard to get rid of and can sting some corals if they grow close enough to touch.

As far as the snails I'd keep 'em. Scrape off the HA with your finger nail or a tooth brush and let 'em loose. If nutrients are under control it shouldn't be a problem.

packer · 01/26/2008, 01:42 AM

I agree about ditching the rock. Why put in bad things that are obvious. You get enough hidden freebies to deal with, so stay away from the obvious you see. I think you had your answer when you said it was fron a tank that was neglected. I would not want to add it to the tank you have spent so much care in building. You have been asking alot of questions on here I see. Thats GREAT, its the best way to learn things. Chalk it up to new reefer experience and leave it out of the tank and take the loss. You will find it better than dealing with the trouble to rid yourself of bad things introduced. If the snail has hair algae, I would venture to bet the rocks also have it and might be waiting to explode when given proper light and such.

As far as the fish, read up and look at many you might want. The damsel and clown are aggressive and can hinder fish you may want to put in at a later time. Maybe they can go to LFS for some kind of credit or trade?

Chef Reef · 01/26/2008, 03:25 AM

how about blowtorch for fun and then dry out the rock

The_Browns · 01/26/2008, 10:48 AM

So basically I spent $125 on 85lbs of worthless LR?

The_Browns · 01/26/2008, 11:07 AM

If the rock does not have any hydroids on it should it be ok?

What I mean is, if some of the rock that I bought in the batch yesterday does not have any signs of Hydroids, would it be ok to use or is the whole 85lbs of rock I bought worthless?

Cheekymonkey · 01/26/2008, 11:45 AM

who did hte rock come from browns... we can ask them waht they were doing to combat it...

The_Browns · 01/26/2008, 11:56 AM

Here is a couple more shots of what people are calling Colonial Hydroids.

With Flash

Without Flash

The_Browns · 01/26/2008, 02:42 PM

Anyone have an ID from the latest picture I uploaded?

Actions taken so far:

I took each piece of LR that I bought yesterday and sat in my drive way with screwdrivers, chizzles, hammer, razor blades and got all of the green "Hydroids" off of the rocks. I just rinsed it all with fresh water. I filled a tub with 15 gallons of fresh saltwater and I am about to put it in the tub and monitor the LR for about a month to see if the hydroids come back, well if that is what they are.

rcypert · 01/26/2008, 04:41 PM

Why are these hydroid things bothering you? Are they quickly spreading or stinging other things? Where did you get the LR? I would have left the clown in the tank and improved water quality. He is probably better off back in the main system with a good skimmer and more stable water then a quarantine. Get rid of that snail bryopsis is a real pain.

kar93 · 01/26/2008, 04:49 PM

Maybe you just scrape the hyrdoid thing off

Salamander · 01/26/2008, 06:23 PM

Still hydroids.

Scrape away if you like but they'll be back. You'll have short term success plucking, chiseling, torching, kalking, drilling etc but they're near impossible to get rid of.

By themselves they're fine. but if they begin growing adjacent to other corals they sting and then with a coral on the rock it's even harder to deal with.

They're not an end all pest but they can be a pain. maybe you just need to live with 'em. But if they're only on a couple rocks I'd ditch those and go with the others and hope they don't appear on those rocks.

Do some searches and you'll find lots of advice but no real good way to get rid of these things.

01/25/2008, 11:42 PM	#26
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	What about the snail with hair algae on him, get rid of him or what. I have about 10 snails he is the only one that has it. Or should I just get rid of all the snails? __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/26/2008, 12:49 AM	#27
Salamander Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Flagstaff, Arizona Posts: 2,103	I'd dry the rock for months. Pull it out and forget about it for a long time. Maybe sometime down the road you can put it in. I'm no hydroid expert and don't know how long "spores" or whatever can survive out of water. Hydroids are a PITA IMO. They're not as bad as some but they're hard to get rid of and can sting some corals if they grow close enough to touch. As far as the snails I'd keep 'em. Scrape off the HA with your finger nail or a tooth brush and let 'em loose. If nutrients are under control it shouldn't be a problem. __________________ I feel more like myself now than I did before. Current Tank Info: 120g mixed reef, 2 x 250W DE MH, 2 x 54w T5, MSX 200 SKimmer, 2 Koralia 4's, 40g fuge/sump, QT

01/26/2008, 10:48 AM	#30
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	So basically I spent $125 on 85lbs of worthless LR? __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/26/2008, 11:07 AM	#31
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	If the rock does not have any hydroids on it should it be ok? What I mean is, if some of the rock that I bought in the batch yesterday does not have any signs of Hydroids, would it be ok to use or is the whole 85lbs of rock I bought worthless? __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/26/2008, 11:45 AM	#32
Cheekymonkey Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,211	who did hte rock come from browns... we can ask them waht they were doing to combat it... __________________ Joshua Solomon ORCA President 2010 Click my red house and help me with my 300G build. Current Tank Info: 300G in progress, 120G SPS/LPS Reef, 40G Mushroom/Zoa, 50G Zeroedge Clam/Gorgonian Tank

01/26/2008, 01:42 AM	#28
packer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ventura, Ca Posts: 338	I agree about ditching the rock. Why put in bad things that are obvious. You get enough hidden freebies to deal with, so stay away from the obvious you see. I think you had your answer when you said it was fron a tank that was neglected. I would not want to add it to the tank you have spent so much care in building. You have been asking alot of questions on here I see. Thats GREAT, its the best way to learn things. Chalk it up to new reefer experience and leave it out of the tank and take the loss. You will find it better than dealing with the trouble to rid yourself of bad things introduced. If the snail has hair algae, I would venture to bet the rocks also have it and might be waiting to explode when given proper light and such. As far as the fish, read up and look at many you might want. The damsel and clown are aggressive and can hinder fish you may want to put in at a later time. Maybe they can go to LFS for some kind of credit or trade?

01/26/2008, 03:25 AM	#29
Chef Reef Moved On Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hallandale, FL Posts: 2,189	how about blowtorch for fun and then dry out the rock

01/26/2008, 11:56 AM	#33
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	Here is a couple more shots of what people are calling Colonial Hydroids. With Flash Without Flash __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/26/2008, 02:42 PM	#34
The_Browns Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 1,046	Anyone have an ID from the latest picture I uploaded? Actions taken so far: I took each piece of LR that I bought yesterday and sat in my drive way with screwdrivers, chizzles, hammer, razor blades and got all of the green "Hydroids" off of the rocks. I just rinsed it all with fresh water. I filled a tub with 15 gallons of fresh saltwater and I am about to put it in the tub and monitor the LR for about a month to see if the hydroids come back, well if that is what they are. __________________ Mike & Jenn Current Tank Info: 120g DT and 35g frag tank

01/26/2008, 04:41 PM	#35
rcypert Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Miami Posts: 435	Why are these hydroid things bothering you? Are they quickly spreading or stinging other things? Where did you get the LR? I would have left the clown in the tank and improved water quality. He is probably better off back in the main system with a good skimmer and more stable water then a quarantine. Get rid of that snail bryopsis is a real pain.

01/26/2008, 04:49 PM	#36
kar93 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lincoln Posts: 5,521	Maybe you just scrape the hyrdoid thing off

01/26/2008, 06:23 PM	#37
Salamander Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Flagstaff, Arizona Posts: 2,103	Still hydroids. Scrape away if you like but they'll be back. You'll have short term success plucking, chiseling, torching, kalking, drilling etc but they're near impossible to get rid of. By themselves they're fine. but if they begin growing adjacent to other corals they sting and then with a coral on the rock it's even harder to deal with. They're not an end all pest but they can be a pain. maybe you just need to live with 'em. But if they're only on a couple rocks I'd ditch those and go with the others and hope they don't appear on those rocks. Do some searches and you'll find lots of advice but no real good way to get rid of these things. __________________ I feel more like myself now than I did before. Current Tank Info: 120g mixed reef, 2 x 250W DE MH, 2 x 54w T5, MSX 200 SKimmer, 2 Koralia 4's, 40g fuge/sump, QT