Damsel ID needed - Talbot's?

LobsterOfJustice · 04/04/2009, 10:15 AM

I ordered three Talbot's damsels through a LFS, and this is what came in. My immediate reaction is that they are not Talbot's. I took them anyway because I have a good relationship with the owner and don't want him to hesitate to make special orders for me in the future. Also not sure if the coloration changes based on age, as I know some damsels do.

Long story short, they're in the bag now, and they are NOT going in the tank if they aren't Talbot's.

Four pictures and a video:

Sever0n · 04/04/2009, 12:28 PM

we just got some of those in the other day ....I think they came in as a neon orange damsel or Peach damsel....can't remember which.

dzeadow · 04/04/2009, 12:53 PM

this is a talbots:

http://www.bluezooaquatics.com/produ...pid=769&cid=15

not sure what you have there

davewbush · 04/04/2009, 05:52 PM

What ever you have, IMO will change color over time. I have look at many web sites and magzines and can't find out what it is. I know damsels change colors over time and become very terittorial over time.

scottallert · 04/04/2009, 06:51 PM

idk, but i see them in the keys alot

Timbor · 04/04/2009, 08:00 PM

From just flipping through Scott Michael's book, Damselfish and Anemonefish, the one that most closely resembles it is the Multispine Damsel, Neoglyphidodon polyacanthus.

To quote the appearance of the Juvenile:

"...is bright yellow with a large eyespot under the mid-dorsal base and a spot on the beginning of the caudal peduncle. There is a blue line running from the tip of the snout back to the dorsal ocellus..."

A google search yielded this:

http://www.eol.org/pages/3084792

Sound like a match on the juvenile?

The adults are supposed to get to about 6 inches and are blue with a yellow belly. They are aggressive as juvies and adults.

Looks close to me, although the book says they very rarely appear in the hobby.

A close second was the Ambon Damsel, Pomacentrus amboinensis

dzeadow · 04/04/2009, 08:10 PM

looks like a match to me! turns out you'll likely have a couple large black damsels on your hands in a while!

LobsterOfJustice · 04/04/2009, 10:19 PM

Nah, already passed them off.

04/04/2009, 10:15 AM	#1
LobsterOfJustice Recovering Detritophobe Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 7,443	Damsel ID needed - Talbot's? I ordered three Talbot's damsels through a LFS, and this is what came in. My immediate reaction is that they are not Talbot's. I took them anyway because I have a good relationship with the owner and don't want him to hesitate to make special orders for me in the future. Also not sure if the coloration changes based on age, as I know some damsels do. Long story short, they're in the bag now, and they are NOT going in the tank if they aren't Talbot's. Four pictures and a video: __________________ If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. I remember when zoanthids were called things like "green" and "orange" and not "reverse gorilla nipple." Current Tank Info: 180g reef with all the bells and whistles

04/04/2009, 12:53 PM	#3
dzeadow Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bozeman, MT Posts: 2,589	this is a talbots: http://www.bluezooaquatics.com/produ...pid=769&cid=15 not sure what you have there __________________ - Danny Current Tank Info: Dual 50 Breeder system, 30g custom sump/fuge, MSX200, Tank1-6x24T5 retro, Tank2-4x39T5 retro

04/04/2009, 08:00 PM	#6
Timbor Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 554	From just flipping through Scott Michael's book, Damselfish and Anemonefish, the one that most closely resembles it is the Multispine Damsel, Neoglyphidodon polyacanthus. To quote the appearance of the Juvenile: "...is bright yellow with a large eyespot under the mid-dorsal base and a spot on the beginning of the caudal peduncle. There is a blue line running from the tip of the snout back to the dorsal ocellus..." A google search yielded this: http://www.eol.org/pages/3084792 Sound like a match on the juvenile? The adults are supposed to get to about 6 inches and are blue with a yellow belly. They are aggressive as juvies and adults. Looks close to me, although the book says they very rarely appear in the hobby. A close second was the Ambon Damsel, Pomacentrus amboinensis __________________ "I bet a funny thing about driving a car off a cliff is; while you're in midair you still hit those brakes... Hey, better try the emergency brake! - J.H." Current Tank Info: None currently

04/04/2009, 08:10 PM	#7
dzeadow Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bozeman, MT Posts: 2,589	looks like a match to me! turns out you'll likely have a couple large black damsels on your hands in a while! __________________ - Danny Current Tank Info: Dual 50 Breeder system, 30g custom sump/fuge, MSX200, Tank1-6x24T5 retro, Tank2-4x39T5 retro

04/04/2009, 10:19 PM	#8
LobsterOfJustice Recovering Detritophobe Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 7,443	Nah, already passed them off. __________________ If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. I remember when zoanthids were called things like "green" and "orange" and not "reverse gorilla nipple." Current Tank Info: 180g reef with all the bells and whistles

04/04/2009, 12:28 PM	#2
Sever0n Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Duluth Posts: 99	we just got some of those in the other day ....I think they came in as a neon orange damsel or Peach damsel....can't remember which.

04/04/2009, 05:52 PM	#4
davewbush ... Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California Posts: 739	What ever you have, IMO will change color over time. I have look at many web sites and magzines and can't find out what it is. I know damsels change colors over time and become very terittorial over time.

04/04/2009, 06:51 PM	#5
scottallert Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: south florida Posts: 571	idk, but i see them in the keys alot