Wet VS. Dry - Page 2

Anemonebuff · 04/09/2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by justdoit
Anemonebuff i see you a ASM G-3 on you 125. I run a G-2 on my 125 it is one bada$$ skimmer love it. And two weeks ago i got a G-4. i don't think it is doing a good job like my G-2 would you no anything about them?

The G3 is a good skimmer, but I plan on upgrading to a Bubble King Cone. I know that they are two different classes of skimmer. I run mine with the gate valve mod, which it makes it much easier to use.I think the G4 does not pump enough water through the skimmer and ASM's in general are very turbulent. I added an elbow to the feed tube inside the skimmer body and direct the bubbles straight down and it helps a little.

tatuvaaj · 04/09/2009, 06:09 PM

Thank you for replies! Now I know I skim dry!

Anemonebuff · 04/09/2009, 06:25 PM

Also, I must say that IMO Sedras are not the cat's meow. Aquabees and Ocean Runners seem to create smaler bubbles. It also does not pump the GPH anywhere near what it did when I got it.

ed102475 · 04/09/2009, 07:33 PM

anyone ever try the Aqua C 180?

carlso63 · 04/09/2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by Anemonebuff
Have some Nog!

To me that is rather "wet" and dilute

Here is my DoubleNW200 which I have skimming both sides "dry" - it has the consistensy of a weak custard and you can't even see through the skimmate:

And you don't even want to about the smell

goofball310 · 04/09/2009, 11:44 PM

a lot of people on here skim wet as a form of daily water changes. the key to this method though is to replace the sw on a daily basis.

InsaneClownFish · 04/10/2009, 12:05 AM

I prefer skimming dry.

ed102475 · 04/10/2009, 06:44 AM

[QUOTE]a lot of people on here skim wet as a form of daily water changes. the key to this method though is to replace the sw on a daily basis.
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+1 I think this is why you will get different reactions from people about skimmers.Finding a economical skimmer that skims allot of dry skimmate is not as easy.

Anemonebuff · 04/10/2009, 11:21 AM

A skim in the middle and get the best of both worlds.

davewbush · 04/10/2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by ed102475
anyone ever try the Aqua C 180?

I run Aqua C EV-120. I try to run dry, but an pulling about an inch and a half of brown diluted skimmate every 24 hours. I have to clean out my cup every day right now. It has only been on my tank for to weeks.

This is what there instructions say about running wet vs. dry.

"The decision to collect a watery, diluted waste product or a darker, pasty foam is a matter of personal preference. Simply put, on is not better than the other! Wet foam contains the same amount of waste product as dry foam, but is diluted with tank water. In other words, the skimmer is removing the same amount of waste weather it collects a cupful of yellowish liqued or 1/4" of dark gunk. Depending on how often you clean and service your system, one might be better than the other. we recommend frequent cleaning of your skimmer (2-3 times per week) and keeping it adjusted to collect a reasonbly wer, light green-brown foam product."

IMO if you and running a skimmer, you are better off than not running one at all.

Randy Holmes-Farley · 04/10/2009, 02:00 PM

Simply put, on is not better than the other! Wet foam contains the same amount of waste product as dry foam, but is diluted with tank water. In other words, the skimmer is removing the same amount of waste weather it collects a cupful of yellowish liqued or 1/4" of dark gunk.

They may say that, but I believe they are wrong if the wet skimmate becomes dry skimmate simply by draining.

ed102475 · 04/10/2009, 02:17 PM

[QUOTE]we recommend frequent cleaning of your skimmer (2-3 times per week).whaaaa?????!!!!!

I am a weekend warrior.Not a full-time microbiologist.

davewbush · 04/10/2009, 03:39 PM

When I read through the whole paragraph, it sounds like they want you to run it more on the wet side and they seem to back peddle by saying that depending on maintanence, one might be better than the other.

It takes me about 5 minutes to clean out the cup. I love the skimmer. It's a lot better than the seaclone that I was running before.

MileHighFish · 04/10/2009, 03:48 PM

I like to dry skim, I enjoy gaging when I clean the cup!!

t kish · 04/10/2009, 04:34 PM

How do you adjust from wet to dry?
Is it just a matter of changing the water level in the Skimmer?

I have an Octopus 150 NW that is running wet , it pulls out a ton of nasty smelling stuff and needs to be cleaned out every other day.

Thanks T Kish

Anemonebuff · 04/10/2009, 04:38 PM

Lowering the water level in the neck will make it dryer. But it sounds like you are doing just fine.

View Poll Results: How do you skim?
Wet	47	67.14%
Dry	23	32.86%
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04/09/2009, 06:09 PM	#27
tatuvaaj Pro-Protozoa Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 1,228	Thank you for replies! Now I know I skim dry! __________________ Tatu Vaajalahti Tampere, Finland Current Tank Info: 240 gal + 50 gal sump,SDSB,LR,ATB Medium, 2x250W HQI + actinic,Balling

04/09/2009, 07:33 PM	#29
ed102475 Reef Custodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: FL. Posts: 954	anyone ever try the Aqua C 180? __________________ Stromalitic cyanobacteria!... Gather. An entire ecosystem contained in one infinitesimal speck.

04/10/2009, 12:05 AM	#32
InsaneClownFish Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,069	I prefer skimming dry. __________________ 7 Years Reefing and Many Fresh 8 Foot Envisions

04/10/2009, 06:44 AM	#33
ed102475 Reef Custodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: FL. Posts: 954	[QUOTE]a lot of people on here skim wet as a form of daily water changes. the key to this method though is to replace the sw on a daily basis. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +1 I think this is why you will get different reactions from people about skimmers.Finding a economical skimmer that skims allot of dry skimmate is not as easy. __________________ Stromalitic cyanobacteria!... Gather. An entire ecosystem contained in one infinitesimal speck.

04/09/2009, 06:25 PM	#28
Anemonebuff Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: LI,NY Posts: 3,877	Also, I must say that IMO Sedras are not the cat's meow. Aquabees and Ocean Runners seem to create smaler bubbles. It also does not pump the GPH anywhere near what it did when I got it.

04/09/2009, 11:44 PM	#31
goofball310 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 1,002	a lot of people on here skim wet as a form of daily water changes. the key to this method though is to replace the sw on a daily basis.

04/10/2009, 11:21 AM	#34
Anemonebuff Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: LI,NY Posts: 3,877	A skim in the middle and get the best of both worlds.

04/10/2009, 02:00 PM	#36
Randy Holmes-Farley Reef Chemist Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arlington, Massachusetts Posts: 86,233	Simply put, on is not better than the other! Wet foam contains the same amount of waste product as dry foam, but is diluted with tank water. In other words, the skimmer is removing the same amount of waste weather it collects a cupful of yellowish liqued or 1/4" of dark gunk. They may say that, but I believe they are wrong if the wet skimmate becomes dry skimmate simply by draining. __________________ Randy Holmes-Farley Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef

04/10/2009, 02:17 PM	#37
ed102475 Reef Custodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: FL. Posts: 954	[QUOTE]we recommend frequent cleaning of your skimmer (2-3 times per week).whaaaa?????!!!!! I am a weekend warrior.Not a full-time microbiologist. __________________ Stromalitic cyanobacteria!... Gather. An entire ecosystem contained in one infinitesimal speck.

04/10/2009, 03:39 PM	#38
davewbush ... Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California Posts: 739	When I read through the whole paragraph, it sounds like they want you to run it more on the wet side and they seem to back peddle by saying that depending on maintanence, one might be better than the other. It takes me about 5 minutes to clean out the cup. I love the skimmer. It's a lot better than the seaclone that I was running before.

04/10/2009, 03:48 PM	#39
MileHighFish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NM. Posts: 1,722	I like to dry skim, I enjoy gaging when I clean the cup!! __________________ See "Red House" for pics!! I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later. Mitch Hedberg Current Tank Info: Reef tank, 100 gal Lee Mar polished.. 60 sump.. 800 watts mh 20k radium..Ran on "Taiwan HQI Ballast" 330 watt VHO.. 48 watt compacts (dawn/dusk).. sps/lps tank..

04/10/2009, 04:34 PM	#40
t kish Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Stoney Creek Ontario Canada Posts: 185	How do you adjust from wet to dry? Is it just a matter of changing the water level in the Skimmer? I have an Octopus 150 NW that is running wet , it pulls out a ton of nasty smelling stuff and needs to be cleaned out every other day. Thanks T Kish __________________ Learning stage Current Tank Info: 46g with 35g basement sump .

04/10/2009, 04:38 PM	#41
Anemonebuff Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: LI,NY Posts: 3,877	Lowering the water level in the neck will make it dryer. But it sounds like you are doing just fine.