Sweet Jesus HELP!!!!!

kidkaos520 · 04/21/2009, 04:38 PM

I just got home from work and my tank is really really really cloudy was not like this when I went to bed last night. Any thought or comments??? Oh and I did a 5 gallon water change

SaltyTX · 04/21/2009, 04:41 PM

uh, whats in your tank? Did something try to breed?

kidkaos520 · 04/21/2009, 04:42 PM

for fish I got 2 grade B picasso a small goby fire shrimp and a pistol shrimp

kidkaos520 · 04/21/2009, 05:54 PM

ANYONE????

scottallert · 04/21/2009, 05:55 PM

anything that could have spawned? clam, ect.

fasteddie99 · 04/21/2009, 05:57 PM

bacterial bloom?

jbird69 · 04/21/2009, 05:57 PM

were gonna need some kind of a lead here. What do you think may have caused it, Any idea at all? Theres just way too many possibilities without any info on your tank.

I would change 20% of your water volumn and run carbon asap.

kidkaos520 · 04/21/2009, 06:00 PM

The only thing I can thing of that might have spawned was a pom pom crab that I saw was carrying eggs. But Im not sure if it would make my tank a Milky white.

jrod11 · 04/21/2009, 06:01 PM

Do you does kalkwasser? maybe it all got emptied into your tank?

kidkaos520 · 04/21/2009, 06:03 PM

Doing another water change now......when I went to sleep all the test levels were normal except the nitrate (has been 20 ppm since I had the tank running) but everything was fine water was nice and clear. When the wifey woke up she said it was like this. So this all happened in the span of about 7 hours

kidkaos520 · 04/21/2009, 06:04 PM

The only thing I put in my tank is the A and B treatment

SaltyTX · 04/21/2009, 06:10 PM

Its like pulling teeth.. List everything about your tank and all parameters you know and what you do to the tank and the setup. That'll help immensely for all trying to help you.

Tylt33 · 04/21/2009, 06:14 PM

Turn off your pumps and see if it clears up? Airbubbles?

kidkaos520 · 04/21/2009, 06:17 PM

Sorry....parameter amonia 0 nitrate 20 calcium 440 KH 1210 degrees phospahte 0 every couple of days I dose with the A and B treatment other than that I just feed the fish Ora glo and mysis..... that all I do to the tank

kidkaos520 · 04/21/2009, 06:19 PM

would that be ok to turn the pumps off??? I got the skimmer running and normally it takes a long while to accumilate alot of the junk thats in the tank....not its going nuts and its not the normal brownish green gunk but rather milky white with a little bit of the other gunk

Tylt33 · 04/21/2009, 06:28 PM

Turn the pumps off for a minute and see if it clears up. It could be air... something could have spawned... something could have gotten added to your tank?

kidkaos520 · 04/21/2009, 06:36 PM

pumps are now off but skimmer is still running

Tylt33 · 04/21/2009, 06:47 PM

Do you have any caulerpa (macroalgae) in your tank?

kidkaos520 · 04/21/2009, 06:53 PM

nope I think there might be some misc. plants in there but they have been in the 3rd chamber for a while....by the way its a 24g jbj nano if that helps any

kidkaos520 · 04/21/2009, 07:02 PM

Feeling a lil slow right now.....I dont know if this helps or matters but I was running low on salt yesterday so I had to mix two different kinds of salts(instant ocean and sea chem) the instant ocean we stopped using because it sat under the sink kind of open and when we would do a water change it would make the tank look cloudy after but not as cloudy but you would see clumps of salt still floating (the reason why we stopped using it) maybe this had something to do with it? Although it was fine after the water change yesterday

jbird69 · 04/21/2009, 07:18 PM

hmmmmm. You say it was OPEN under the sink? Do you keep household chemicals under there too? How is your livestock looking? also, how long do you let your waterchange water mix before you add it to your tank? I doubt this has anything to do with it, but the more info the better. Was your wife doing any house cleaning around the tank?

birdz · 04/21/2009, 07:55 PM

the root cause of this problem is apparent

BlastoEric1589 · 04/21/2009, 08:32 PM

did anyone tell you how to actually mix salt??? you dont just put it in your tank... you actually mix it with water, outside your tank... hence salt MIX

Sisterlimonpot · 04/21/2009, 08:41 PM

kidkaos520,
to add to the possibilities it could be a bacteria bloom of either over dosing part 1 (alk) or a carbon source like vinegar, sugar or vodka. or another possibility would be a spawning event.

nikon187 · 04/21/2009, 08:45 PM

I'm going to go with salt precipitate. If left open and not sealed salt can and will solidify and calcium/ alk with precipitate off when it gets wet again ( causing cloudiness)

04/21/2009, 04:38 PM	#1
kidkaos520 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,013	Sweet Jesus HELP!!!!! I just got home from work and my tank is really really really cloudy was not like this when I went to bed last night. Any thought or comments??? Oh and I did a 5 gallon water change

04/21/2009, 05:57 PM	#6
fasteddie99 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,028	bacterial bloom? __________________ 125 gal LED lighting Super Reef Octopus XP-3000 SSS Current Tank Info: 125

04/21/2009, 05:57 PM	#7
jbird69 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The beautiful State of Jefferson Posts: 2,751	were gonna need some kind of a lead here. What do you think may have caused it, Any idea at all? Theres just way too many possibilities without any info on your tank. I would change 20% of your water volumn and run carbon asap. __________________ Broke Back Mountain is not a movie, its the pile of dead ninjas in Chuck Norris' back yard

04/21/2009, 07:18 PM	#21
jbird69 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The beautiful State of Jefferson Posts: 2,751	hmmmmm. You say it was OPEN under the sink? Do you keep household chemicals under there too? How is your livestock looking? also, how long do you let your waterchange water mix before you add it to your tank? I doubt this has anything to do with it, but the more info the better. Was your wife doing any house cleaning around the tank? __________________ Broke Back Mountain is not a movie, its the pile of dead ninjas in Chuck Norris' back yard

04/21/2009, 08:41 PM	#24
Sisterlimonpot R.C. Fraternity President Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Litchfeild Park AZ Posts: 11,490 Blog Entries: 2	kidkaos520, to add to the possibilities it could be a bacteria bloom of either over dosing part 1 (alk) or a carbon source like vinegar, sugar or vodka. or another possibility would be a spawning event. __________________ Jimmy MASVC President Dishes are done man! Current Tank Info: 300 in progress

04/21/2009, 04:41 PM	#2
SaltyTX Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SC for now.. Posts: 155	uh, whats in your tank? Did something try to breed?

04/21/2009, 04:42 PM	#3
kidkaos520 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,013	for fish I got 2 grade B picasso a small goby fire shrimp and a pistol shrimp

04/21/2009, 05:54 PM	#4
kidkaos520 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,013	ANYONE????

04/21/2009, 05:55 PM	#5
scottallert Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: south florida Posts: 571	anything that could have spawned? clam, ect.

04/21/2009, 06:00 PM	#8
kidkaos520 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,013	The only thing I can thing of that might have spawned was a pom pom crab that I saw was carrying eggs. But Im not sure if it would make my tank a Milky white.

04/21/2009, 06:01 PM	#9
jrod11 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 347	Do you does kalkwasser? maybe it all got emptied into your tank?

04/21/2009, 06:03 PM	#10
kidkaos520 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,013	Doing another water change now......when I went to sleep all the test levels were normal except the nitrate (has been 20 ppm since I had the tank running) but everything was fine water was nice and clear. When the wifey woke up she said it was like this. So this all happened in the span of about 7 hours

04/21/2009, 06:04 PM	#11
kidkaos520 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,013	The only thing I put in my tank is the A and B treatment

04/21/2009, 06:10 PM	#12
SaltyTX Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SC for now.. Posts: 155	Its like pulling teeth.. List everything about your tank and all parameters you know and what you do to the tank and the setup. That'll help immensely for all trying to help you.

04/21/2009, 06:14 PM	#13
Tylt33 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chico, California Posts: 1,755	Turn off your pumps and see if it clears up? Airbubbles?

04/21/2009, 06:17 PM	#14
kidkaos520 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,013	Sorry....parameter amonia 0 nitrate 20 calcium 440 KH 1210 degrees phospahte 0 every couple of days I dose with the A and B treatment other than that I just feed the fish Ora glo and mysis..... that all I do to the tank

04/21/2009, 06:19 PM	#15
kidkaos520 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,013	would that be ok to turn the pumps off??? I got the skimmer running and normally it takes a long while to accumilate alot of the junk thats in the tank....not its going nuts and its not the normal brownish green gunk but rather milky white with a little bit of the other gunk

04/21/2009, 06:28 PM	#16
Tylt33 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chico, California Posts: 1,755	Turn the pumps off for a minute and see if it clears up. It could be air... something could have spawned... something could have gotten added to your tank?

04/21/2009, 06:36 PM	#17
kidkaos520 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,013	pumps are now off but skimmer is still running

04/21/2009, 06:47 PM	#18
Tylt33 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chico, California Posts: 1,755	Do you have any caulerpa (macroalgae) in your tank?

04/21/2009, 06:53 PM	#19
kidkaos520 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,013	nope I think there might be some misc. plants in there but they have been in the 3rd chamber for a while....by the way its a 24g jbj nano if that helps any

04/21/2009, 07:02 PM	#20
kidkaos520 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,013	Feeling a lil slow right now.....I dont know if this helps or matters but I was running low on salt yesterday so I had to mix two different kinds of salts(instant ocean and sea chem) the instant ocean we stopped using because it sat under the sink kind of open and when we would do a water change it would make the tank look cloudy after but not as cloudy but you would see clumps of salt still floating (the reason why we stopped using it) maybe this had something to do with it? Although it was fine after the water change yesterday

04/21/2009, 07:55 PM	#22
birdz Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Fenton, MI Posts: 107	the root cause of this problem is apparent

04/21/2009, 08:32 PM	#23
BlastoEric1589 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 366	did anyone tell you how to actually mix salt??? you dont just put it in your tank... you actually mix it with water, outside your tank... hence salt MIX

04/21/2009, 08:45 PM	#25
nikon187 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 4,717	I'm going to go with salt precipitate. If left open and not sealed salt can and will solidify and calcium/ alk with precipitate off when it gets wet again ( causing cloudiness) __________________ ----------------- Current Tanks: New 210 custom 84 x 24 x 24, 60g sump, SWC 250 extreme with bubble blaster 5000, 2 vortech mp40, 2 vortech mp10, 12 T5, Water blaster 5000, warner marine bio pellets, 60g clownfish cube, red carpet anemone with a 25g sump,SRO octopus 1000sss, 250w radium, lumenarc large.