My 90 gallon tank. Your comment are most welcome

beosakti · 10/31/2009, 08:48 PM

I need your comment for my tank:

90 gallon
100lbs LR
1x150W MH 20000K
2xT5 25W
Amonia 0
Nitrite 0
Calcium 410
pH 7
others parameter not measured

My question is:
1. How to raise the pH and what cause my pH very low?
2. How to growth coraline algae on my LR?
3. My Sun Polyp is bleaching. Is this due to low pH (cannot calcification?)
3. Anything wrong with my tank? Comment are welcome

Here's some photos:

Oh yeah, dont comment about my tang. I know my tank is not big enough for this creature(100x60x60cm). Any others comment is welcome.

jenjen · 10/31/2009, 09:24 PM

Does your sun coral ever open it's polyps?

rowjimmy · 10/31/2009, 09:28 PM

Your Sun Coral is likely starving. Are you feeding it? If not it will keep on "bleaching". It's a nice piece....feed it regularly and you will be rewarded for your efforts.

That maroon colored Gorgonian in your third picture (upper right) might need regular feeding as well. It might be non-photosynthetic. What color are the polyps? Put it in good flow to help break up that outer "skin". They "shed", and need good flow or they will get smothered in undesirable algae. You can help it along by blowing it off with a turkey baster. Once the polyps expand feed them!

beosakti · 10/31/2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenjen

Does your sun coral ever open it's polyps?

It never open its polyps. That why I can't feed them. I need to know why its never open?

beosakti · 10/31/2009, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowjimmy

Your Sun Coral is likely starving. Are you feeding it? If not it will keep on "bleaching". It's a nice piece....feed it regularly and you will be rewarded for your efforts.

That maroon colored Gorgonian in your third picture (upper right) might need regular feeding as well. It might be non-photosynthetic. What color are the polyps? Put it in good flow to help break up that outer "skin". They "shed", and need good flow or they will get smothered in undesirable algae. You can help it along by blowing it off with a turkey baster. Once the polyps expand feed them!

how to feed them? Is it by direct feeding?. It polyps is purple. I feed all coral in my tank with liquid plankton from Sera (coral liquid food)

jenjen · 10/31/2009, 10:16 PM

I have a sun coral also. They're challenging to feed. I usually feed my tank a really small amount about 15 minutes before the 'real' feeding. My sun coral opens up, then I feed again & spot feed the sun coral.

beosakti · 10/31/2009, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenjen

I have a sun coral also. They're challenging to feed. I usually feed my tank a really small amount about 15 minutes before the 'real' feeding. My sun coral opens up, then I feed again & spot feed the sun coral.

My problem is: its never open its polyps, no matter what I'm done to them. So I can't feed them at all. Any advise?

jenjen · 10/31/2009, 10:21 PM

They will open at some point... but it may be in the middle of the night. Most of the time if you feed it small amounts of food on a frequent basis it will open. If not, you can wait until it does open & then feed it. Then slowly train it to open at a different time of day.

They're not an easy coral to get going, but once they do they're not too hard to maintain.

rowjimmy · 10/31/2009, 10:24 PM

beosakti please check out the Non-Photosynthetic Coral forum on Reef Central for a wealth of information about feeding Sun Corals. Here is an excellent thread by stunreefer that describes this in detail:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1719839

rowjimmy · 10/31/2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beosakti

how to feed them? Is it by direct feeding?. It polyps is purple. I feed all coral in my tank with liquid plankton from Sera (coral liquid food)

Purple polyps means it's non-photosynthetic and needs daily "direct" feedings to keep it in good health. Turn off your tank current when the polyps expand and spot feed them with a feeding pipette, syringe, baster, etc.

beosakti · 10/31/2009, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowjimmy

beosakti please check out the Non-Photosynthetic Coral forum on Reef Central for a wealth of information about feeding Sun Corals. Here is an excellent thread by stunreefer that describes this in detail:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?=1719839

Thank you.
How ever, other than my sun coral, is there another comment regarding my tank?

Btw, the link is broken?

rowjimmy · 10/31/2009, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beosakti

Thank you.
How ever, other than my sun coral, is there another comment regarding my tank?

Btw, the link is broken?

Sorry I forgot a letter in the link it should work now....try it again.

beosakti · 10/31/2009, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowjimmy

Sorry I forgot a letter in the link it should work now....try it again.

Still the same, the link still not working.

rowjimmy · 10/31/2009, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beosakti

Still the same, the link still not working.

It's working for me...try refreshing your browser. If that doesn't work just go to the Non-Photosynthetic Coral forum on Reef Central. It's on page 2 with the green arrow titled "Care of Large Polyp Non-Photosynthetic Corals".

jenjen · 10/31/2009, 11:21 PM

What are the two clear corals? They look sort of like frogspawn, one on each side of the sun coral?

How long has your tank been running for?
Do you measure nitrates? If yes, what is the level?

susan92368 · 10/31/2009, 11:26 PM

Take that sun coral and put it under the rock ledge its on, they dont like light too much! There are plenty of ph raising products out there, but you really should figure out why its so low to begin with? What brand of salt are you using? how often are you doing water changes? You have alot of corals in there that need to be fed. If you cannot spot feed, try some cyclopeeze and turn off all of your pumps for an hr a couple times a week. the goniopora needs alot of food to survive, as do the sun corals, as well as the gorgonian. Good luck!
p.s. is that a patch of hair algae? check your phosphate levels. Also, the coraline just takes time. If you can get a piece of rock with it on already, it helps to seed the rest of the rock.

am3gross · 10/31/2009, 11:37 PM

how long has the tank been setup? it looks fairly new... im guessing around 2-3 months? what are your nitrates at? only 1 150 watt halide? i would move your sunpoylips down like stated above... feed the same time every day and shut off circulation.... the flower pot and suncorals are the 2 hardest corals to keep in my opinon. the flowerpot requires a nutrient rich tank to even began to survive, and the sun polyps require so much attention. i also see some hair algae in one of the pics. what kind of water are you using? ro/di? tap?...

these are some things just from the pics that i see. from some of the pics it looks like you have some creative aquascaping in there. how about a fulll tank shot?

PDAlber · 11/01/2009, 07:46 AM

Try thawing some cyclopeeze in a small cup of tank water. Then, with a syringe or small turkey baster, squirt the food on and around the sun coral. Hopefully, this will stimulate the polyps to open and you can feed them. I would try just after you lights go out. As was mentioned you have to "train" them to come out at feeding time. The cyclopeeze should also work for the gorgonian.

beosakti · 11/01/2009, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by susan92368

Take that sun coral and put it under the rock ledge its on, they dont like light too much! There are plenty of ph raising products out there, but you really should figure out why its so low to begin with? What brand of salt are you using? how often are you doing water changes? You have alot of corals in there that need to be fed. If you cannot spot feed, try some cyclopeeze and turn off all of your pumps for an hr a couple times a week. the goniopora needs alot of food to survive, as do the sun corals, as well as the gorgonian. Good luck!
p.s. is that a patch of hair algae? check your phosphate levels. Also, the coraline just takes time. If you can get a piece of rock with it on already, it helps to seed the rest of the rock.

I already put it under the rock before, but the same, the polyp never open. I never using salt, i'm using natural sea water (a filtered one by a company). Water change 1 time a month 30%.

Yes there are hair algae and I believe this is due to high phospate level.
Thank you for your comment

beosakti · 11/01/2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by am3gross

how long has the tank been setup? it looks fairly new... im guessing around 2-3 months? what are your nitrates at? only 1 150 watt halide? i would move your sunpoylips down like stated above... feed the same time every day and shut off circulation.... the flower pot and suncorals are the 2 hardest corals to keep in my opinon. the flowerpot requires a nutrient rich tank to even began to survive, and the sun polyps require so much attention. i also see some hair algae in one of the pics. what kind of water are you using? ro/di? tap?...

these are some things just from the pics that i see. from some of the pics it looks like you have some creative aquascaping in there. how about a fulll tank shot?

Tank is 2 months old. Nitrate never measured but I will buy test kit soon since my nitrite going down to zero last month. Yes 1x150W MH plus 2x25W T5. I never do water top up, but replace it with natural sea water 30% every month.

Full tank shot will follow.
Thank you

beosakti · 11/01/2009, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PDAlber

Try thawing some cyclopeeze in a small cup of tank water. Then, with a syringe or small turkey baster, squirt the food on and around the sun coral. Hopefully, this will stimulate the polyps to open and you can feed them. I would try just after you lights go out. As was mentioned you have to "train" them to come out at feeding time. The cyclopeeze should also work for the gorgonian.

Thank you for your comment. I think it's already too late to try since the coral seems to be dead, and i think i will never bought any sun polyp in future

10/31/2009, 08:48 PM	#1
beosakti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 41	My 90 gallon tank. Your comment are most welcome I need your comment for my tank: 90 gallon 100lbs LR 1x150W MH 20000K 2xT5 25W Amonia 0 Nitrite 0 Calcium 410 pH 7 others parameter not measured My question is: 1. How to raise the pH and what cause my pH very low? 2. How to growth coraline algae on my LR? 3. My Sun Polyp is bleaching. Is this due to low pH (cannot calcification?) 3. Anything wrong with my tank? Comment are welcome Here's some photos: Oh yeah, dont comment about my tang. I know my tank is not big enough for this creature(100x60x60cm). Any others comment is welcome. Last edited by beosakti; 10/31/2009 at 08:54 PM.

10/31/2009, 09:24 PM	#2
jenjen Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Langley BC, Canada Posts: 1,710	Does your sun coral ever open it's polyps? __________________ "Challenges forge the greatness in you" Current Tank Info: 180gal softy reef (Apr '09)

10/31/2009, 10:16 PM	#6
jenjen Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Langley BC, Canada Posts: 1,710	I have a sun coral also. They're challenging to feed. I usually feed my tank a really small amount about 15 minutes before the 'real' feeding. My sun coral opens up, then I feed again & spot feed the sun coral. __________________ "Challenges forge the greatness in you" Current Tank Info: 180gal softy reef (Apr '09)

10/31/2009, 10:21 PM	#8
jenjen Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Langley BC, Canada Posts: 1,710	They will open at some point... but it may be in the middle of the night. Most of the time if you feed it small amounts of food on a frequent basis it will open. If not, you can wait until it does open & then feed it. Then slowly train it to open at a different time of day. They're not an easy coral to get going, but once they do they're not too hard to maintain. __________________ "Challenges forge the greatness in you" Current Tank Info: 180gal softy reef (Apr '09)

10/31/2009, 10:24 PM	#9
rowjimmy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 245	beosakti please check out the Non-Photosynthetic Coral forum on Reef Central for a wealth of information about feeding Sun Corals. Here is an excellent thread by stunreefer that describes this in detail: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1719839 Last edited by rowjimmy; 10/31/2009 at 10:36 PM. Reason: fixed link

10/31/2009, 09:28 PM	#3
rowjimmy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 245	Your Sun Coral is likely starving. Are you feeding it? If not it will keep on "bleaching". It's a nice piece....feed it regularly and you will be rewarded for your efforts. That maroon colored Gorgonian in your third picture (upper right) might need regular feeding as well. It might be non-photosynthetic. What color are the polyps? Put it in good flow to help break up that outer "skin". They "shed", and need good flow or they will get smothered in undesirable algae. You can help it along by blowing it off with a turkey baster. Once the polyps expand feed them!

10/31/2009, 11:21 PM	#15
jenjen Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Langley BC, Canada Posts: 1,710	What are the two clear corals? They look sort of like frogspawn, one on each side of the sun coral? How long has your tank been running for? Do you measure nitrates? If yes, what is the level? __________________ "Challenges forge the greatness in you" Current Tank Info: 180gal softy reef (Apr '09)

10/31/2009, 11:26 PM	#16
susan92368 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Macomb, MI Posts: 79	Take that sun coral and put it under the rock ledge its on, they dont like light too much! There are plenty of ph raising products out there, but you really should figure out why its so low to begin with? What brand of salt are you using? how often are you doing water changes? You have alot of corals in there that need to be fed. If you cannot spot feed, try some cyclopeeze and turn off all of your pumps for an hr a couple times a week. the goniopora needs alot of food to survive, as do the sun corals, as well as the gorgonian. Good luck! p.s. is that a patch of hair algae? check your phosphate levels. Also, the coraline just takes time. If you can get a piece of rock with it on already, it helps to seed the rest of the rock.

10/31/2009, 11:37 PM	#17
am3gross Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: va Posts: 1,243	how long has the tank been setup? it looks fairly new... im guessing around 2-3 months? what are your nitrates at? only 1 150 watt halide? i would move your sunpoylips down like stated above... feed the same time every day and shut off circulation.... the flower pot and suncorals are the 2 hardest corals to keep in my opinon. the flowerpot requires a nutrient rich tank to even began to survive, and the sun polyps require so much attention. i also see some hair algae in one of the pics. what kind of water are you using? ro/di? tap?... these are some things just from the pics that i see. from some of the pics it looks like you have some creative aquascaping in there. how about a fulll tank shot?

11/01/2009, 07:46 AM	#18
PDAlber Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 504	Try thawing some cyclopeeze in a small cup of tank water. Then, with a syringe or small turkey baster, squirt the food on and around the sun coral. Hopefully, this will stimulate the polyps to open and you can feed them. I would try just after you lights go out. As was mentioned you have to "train" them to come out at feeding time. The cyclopeeze should also work for the gorgonian.