refugium

vincer20 · 02/14/2010, 07:16 AM

is a refugium nessisary for a reef tank?

VoodooMach · 02/14/2010, 07:18 AM

I definitely think so. However, having a refugium more complex than growing chaeto is something of a debate IMO.

Tomaric · 02/14/2010, 07:22 AM

Fug = more water volume = easier to maintain levels in tanks.
Fug = Place to grow macro algae
Fug = plave to grow pods
Fug = good thing

Depends on what you want from your tank. What do you want?

VoodooMach · 02/14/2010, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomaric

Fug = more water volume = easier to maintain levels in tanks.
Fug = Place to grow macro algae
Fug = plave to grow pods
Fug = good thing

Depends on what you want from your tank. What do you want?

Fuge

Tomaric · 02/14/2010, 07:40 AM

Voo, it's early and that's the only positive thing you can say?

VoodooMach · 02/14/2010, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomaric

Voo, it's early and that's the only positive thing you can say?

I was trying to help you out, and no I'm not going to get sucked into an e-confrontation. Have a nice day.

vincer20 · 02/14/2010, 07:47 AM

i want to keep sps lps and reef fish.

Tomaric · 02/14/2010, 08:00 AM

Vince if you have the space / money add a fuge
Remember to not skimm the flow from the fuge if you want to grow pods.

Help me out

vincer20 · 02/14/2010, 08:07 AM

so skim--fuge--then return.

vincer20 · 02/14/2010, 08:08 AM

how about return through a chiller?

Tomaric · 02/14/2010, 11:27 AM

Some folks say put a T on your return to feed the fuge I don't my mine always comes from the over flow from the DT. My thoughts are if th water quality is good enough on the main then the same water goes into the fuge so it should be good enough. Always has been for me.

vincer20 · 02/17/2010, 07:05 AM

how would you do it if you only had one overflow?

thegrun · 02/17/2010, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincer20

how about return through a chiller?

That's how I run mine: Filter sock>skimmer>refugium>return pump>chiller>return

Chiefsurfer · 02/17/2010, 08:00 AM

vince, you do NOT need a refugium. PLENTY of people do without, and have phenominal tanks.

Not saying it won't be good, as it has TONS of benefits, but it is NOT NEEDED.

As to a BASIC sump, I will post it for you here. This is VERY BASIC, but it is FINE for a sump/fuge.

IslandCrow · 02/17/2010, 09:59 AM

I agree with Chiefsurfer. The simple answer is "no, you don't need a refugium". It can certainly provide many benefits, so if you can do it, I would. As far as the argument on whether the refugium should get pre or post skimmed water, I really don't think it makes that much difference. There isn't a skimmer in the world that's 100% efficient, so the water coming out of the skimmer should have plenty of nutrients to keep your algae and plankton perfectly happy.

gdsmith56 · 02/17/2010, 10:36 AM

Sorry - just a little difference of opinion here ...

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Originally Posted by IslandCrow

There isn't a skimmer in the world that's 100% efficient, so the water coming out of the skimmer should have plenty of nutrients to keep your algae and plankton perfectly happy.

IMO, I want ALL of the pods that come out of the fuge to go into my tank for the fish and corals to feed on. My skimmer comes before the fuge.

02/14/2010, 07:16 AM	#1
vincer20 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oxford,Pa Posts: 57	refugium is a refugium nessisary for a reef tank?

02/14/2010, 07:18 AM	#2
VoodooMach Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 108	I definitely think so. However, having a refugium more complex than growing chaeto is something of a debate IMO. __________________ 57 Illuminata Current Tank Info: 57 Illuminata

02/17/2010, 09:59 AM	#15
IslandCrow Reef Monkey Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rockledge, Fl Posts: 5,759	I agree with Chiefsurfer. The simple answer is "no, you don't need a refugium". It can certainly provide many benefits, so if you can do it, I would. As far as the argument on whether the refugium should get pre or post skimmed water, I really don't think it makes that much difference. There isn't a skimmer in the world that's 100% efficient, so the water coming out of the skimmer should have plenty of nutrients to keep your algae and plankton perfectly happy. __________________ All opinions in the above message should be taken with 35 ppt salt. -Mike C. Current Tank Info: I have a reef screen saver on my phone, does that count?

02/14/2010, 07:22 AM	#3
Tomaric Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mid Missouri Posts: 239	Fug = more water volume = easier to maintain levels in tanks. Fug = Place to grow macro algae Fug = plave to grow pods Fug = good thing Depends on what you want from your tank. What do you want?

02/14/2010, 07:40 AM	#5
Tomaric Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mid Missouri Posts: 239	Voo, it's early and that's the only positive thing you can say?

02/14/2010, 07:47 AM	#7
vincer20 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oxford,Pa Posts: 57	i want to keep sps lps and reef fish.

02/14/2010, 08:00 AM	#8
Tomaric Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mid Missouri Posts: 239	Vince if you have the space / money add a fuge Remember to not skimm the flow from the fuge if you want to grow pods. Help me out

02/14/2010, 08:07 AM	#9
vincer20 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oxford,Pa Posts: 57	so skim--fuge--then return.

02/14/2010, 08:08 AM	#10
vincer20 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oxford,Pa Posts: 57	how about return through a chiller?

02/14/2010, 11:27 AM	#11
Tomaric Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mid Missouri Posts: 239	Some folks say put a T on your return to feed the fuge I don't my mine always comes from the over flow from the DT. My thoughts are if th water quality is good enough on the main then the same water goes into the fuge so it should be good enough. Always has been for me.

02/17/2010, 07:05 AM	#12
vincer20 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oxford,Pa Posts: 57	how would you do it if you only had one overflow?