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Unread 06/17/2010, 11:56 AM   #1
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do you believe this?

i went to saltwaterfish.com yesterday to browse at there livestock and i seen that they have a flame angelfish and a coral beauty REEF SAFE. i use to have a flame angelfish that i purchased from bluezooaquatics and he def was not reef safe he always picked at my poor cany cane coral. btw bluezoo said caution with corals they did not say he was going to be reef safe i just chanced it. do you think there is a such thing as a angelfish being reef safe? i have heard an angelfish not touching any corals for years and one day BAM. i would love you have a flame angelfish in my reef tank. should i chance it? and go by what they said that it is reef safe


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Unread 06/17/2010, 12:01 PM   #2
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It's a dwarf angel. It's not reef safe. You could get lucky and get one that never touched corals, but there is no single species of angel in which every single individual is perfectly reef safe. None.


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Unread 06/17/2010, 12:02 PM   #3
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i went to saltwaterfish.com yesterday to browse at there livestock and i seen that they have a flame angelfish and a coral beauty REEF SAFE. i use to have a flame angelfish that i purchased from bluezooaquatics and he def was not reef safe he always picked at my poor cany cane coral. btw bluezoo said caution with corals they did not say he was going to be reef safe i just chanced it. do you think there is a such thing as a angelfish being reef safe? i have heard an angelfish not touching any corals for years and one day BAM. i would love you have a flame angelfish in my reef tank. should i chance it? and go by what they said that it is reef safe
had a coral beauty, didnt touch any corals, till I started feeding it less and it started nipping at them.

fed him more sponges and ... and he stopped.

it comes down to the indidual fish as I find out.even tang could nipp at SPS.
its in their nature, cant blame thm


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Unread 06/17/2010, 12:15 PM   #4
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It's a dwarf angel. It's not reef safe. You could get lucky and get one that never touched corals, but there is no single species of angel in which every single individual is perfectly reef safe. None.
wrong.

any angel in the Genicanthus family is reef safe. and is the only guaranteed reef safe angel.


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Unread 06/17/2010, 12:20 PM   #5
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Unread 06/17/2010, 12:23 PM   #6
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Emu, that may be true, but, is Genicanthus a dwarf angel appropriate for smaller tank sizes. I didn't see any that were dwarfs and appropriate for smaller tanks.


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Unread 06/17/2010, 12:58 PM   #7
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i have both they don't touch any of my corals i guess im one of the lucky ones,


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Unread 06/17/2010, 01:14 PM   #8
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i got my flame angel from there. mine is with sps and 6 clams. it would nip at things there and there, but no major damage. to minimize the chance, just make sure its fed. swf.com actually sells very healthy specimens. my avatar is my flame.


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Unread 06/17/2010, 01:21 PM   #9
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wrong.

any angel in the Genicanthus family is reef safe. and is the only guaranteed reef safe angel.
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/oct2003/Fish.htm

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The Genicanthus angelfish are as close to reef-safe as it gets. They are all mid-water planktivores and rarely pick at benthic invertebrates. I’ve kept G. bellus, G. melanospilos, G. watanabei, and G. semifasciatus. I’ve had G. bellus for many years and it’s my favorite in this genus. Not only has it proven to be completely reef-safe, it is a tough fish that does very well in captivity. Similar to all the Genicanthus angels, it must be fed multiple times per day in order to thrive. In this requirement, they’re similar to Anthias. I have to relate that I did have a bad experience with a pair of G. watanabei angels in my old 120 gallon reef aquarium. Both fish started picking at Acropora corals and had to be removed. I wouldn’t take a chance with the species again, but I know other reef aquarists keeping them without a problem.



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Unread 06/17/2010, 01:42 PM   #10
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I had a coral beauty for many yrs with no issues with him/her messing with my SPS, clams or other corals. I think it really boils down to how you feed and the personality of your peticular fish.


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