Is this Anemone Dying?

goldmullet · 05/31/2011, 12:46 PM

I have a bubbletip anemone in my tank and he has been doing good for about a week but now it looks like his foot is coming off the rock and hes curled up?

Is it dying or should it be ok?

BigGimp77 · 05/31/2011, 12:59 PM

The best thing you can do is try to get a picture of it and post it in this thread.

Also list your tank parameters, size, lights, age, etc.

goldmullet · 05/31/2011, 01:06 PM

Here is a picture as an Attachment

this is me · 05/31/2011, 02:08 PM

How old is your tank? From the look of it, it's pretty new and is still in the early algae battle stage.
But to answer your question, the nem is not dying from the look of the picture but it might be on the way there if your tank is not ready for a nem.

goldmullet · 05/31/2011, 02:10 PM

My tank is about a month and half old. My water is testing good.

zeeter · 05/31/2011, 02:44 PM

Your tank is probably too young for an anemone. They need a tank age of about 6-8 months and most people will tell you a year.

ReeferBill · 05/31/2011, 02:48 PM

Trade it in as soon as possible unless a friend with an older setup can keep it for you... It will die in your tank!!!

this is me · 05/31/2011, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldmullet

My tank is about a month and half old. My water is testing good.

MM WI · 05/31/2011, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by this is me

This kind of response is wrong. It discourages new people from posting. Someone has already pointed out that an aged tank would be advised. No one took the time to explain why an aged tank is preferred or to encourage this reefer. The nem may adjust to his system before it dies, we really don't know for sure.

I would suggest that if you don't have anything of substance to add, if you just want to pile on to pretend superiority, you are showing us the opposite of superiority and should in my opinion refrain.

- Mark

ColaAddict · 05/31/2011, 09:38 PM

Okay the above poster MM WI is right, so let me try to explain. The guideline for anemone is usually about a 1year old tank, because with a tank as young as yours, the water parameters often changes. The guideline for the time is not just for the tank, as it get's more stable as it ages, but also for you to learn how to keep your tank more stable. Anemones are more sensitive, so your numbers have to be as stable as possible, which is hard to do when your tank is young and when you are inexperienced. But that is just a guideline. I can have a fairly new tank, but if I already have alot of experience and can keepp a tank stable even if new, then I can own an anemone.

zeeter · 05/31/2011, 10:23 PM

To scientificy (I invented that word), after about a 9 months or so the tank has built up enough beneficial bacteria that minor mistakes won't necessarily kill an anemone. Ammonia spikes shouldn't happen as often due both to experience and an abundance of bacteria. To a lesser degree, the skimmer has something to do with it. It takes a while for skimmers to break in. Maybe not as long as this thread suggests but I'm thinking out loud here.

Further, during the first year we've usually gotten a good amount of algae in the refugium to help with nitrates and phosphates. Not to mention the copepods that grow in there that can help feed the anemone. So putting off a water change for a few days doesn't necessarily cause spikes of nitrates. At least ones that would cause irreversible damage.

This is what is meant by having a mature tank. This, combined with knowing enough not to make major mistakes, allows us a better chance to house anemones.

Another factor is that many of us start out going cheap on the lighting for our first tanks, not realizing that you get what you pay for. Anemones need light to feed off of the algae in their tentacles. Without the right light temperature and PAR rating the algae can't grow and thus cannot feed the anemone. Light temperature is one of the most underrated factors in reef keeping. This, of course, has nothing to do with the tank maturity, but I wanted to throw that in here.

this is me · 06/01/2011, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MM WI

This kind of response is wrong. It discourages new people from posting. Someone has already pointed out that an aged tank would be advised. No one took the time to explain why an aged tank is preferred or to encourage this reefer. The nem may adjust to his system before it dies, we really don't know for sure.

I would suggest that if you don't have anything of substance to add, if you just want to pile on to pretend superiority, you are showing us the opposite of superiority and should in my opinion refrain.

- Mark

I've given my advise to the OP regrading his situation along with a few other members in the first few posts.

But ask yourself, what contribution have you made on this thread?

canrio · 06/01/2011, 07:16 AM

I guess I will put off purchasing an anemone as my tank is only a month old. Thanks for the honest reply's. I'm new to Reef Central and saltwater.

05/31/2011, 12:46 PM	#1
goldmullet Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 319	Is this Anemone Dying? I have a bubbletip anemone in my tank and he has been doing good for about a week but now it looks like his foot is coming off the rock and hes curled up? Is it dying or should it be ok?

05/31/2011, 02:08 PM	#4
this is me Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,074	How old is your tank? From the look of it, it's pretty new and is still in the early algae battle stage. But to answer your question, the nem is not dying from the look of the picture but it might be on the way there if your tank is not ready for a nem. __________________ Nick When a man talks dirty to a woman, it's sexual harassment. When a woman talks dirty to a man, it's $4.95 per minute. Current Tank Info: Miracle 360 gallons

05/31/2011, 02:48 PM	#7
ReeferBill Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,906	Anenome? Trade it in as soon as possible unless a friend with an older setup can keep it for you... It will die in your tank!!! __________________ I never realized I had to be a Chemist and a Marine Biologist to maintain a Reef Aquarium!

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05/31/2011, 12:59 PM	#2
BigGimp77 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 318	The best thing you can do is try to get a picture of it and post it in this thread. Also list your tank parameters, size, lights, age, etc.

05/31/2011, 02:10 PM	#5
goldmullet Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 319	My tank is about a month and half old. My water is testing good.

05/31/2011, 02:44 PM	#6
zeeter Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 386	Your tank is probably too young for an anemone. They need a tank age of about 6-8 months and most people will tell you a year.

05/31/2011, 09:38 PM	#10
ColaAddict Moved On Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Northbrook Posts: 370	Okay the above poster MM WI is right, so let me try to explain. The guideline for anemone is usually about a 1year old tank, because with a tank as young as yours, the water parameters often changes. The guideline for the time is not just for the tank, as it get's more stable as it ages, but also for you to learn how to keep your tank more stable. Anemones are more sensitive, so your numbers have to be as stable as possible, which is hard to do when your tank is young and when you are inexperienced. But that is just a guideline. I can have a fairly new tank, but if I already have alot of experience and can keepp a tank stable even if new, then I can own an anemone.

05/31/2011, 10:23 PM	#11
zeeter Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 386	To scientificy (I invented that word), after about a 9 months or so the tank has built up enough beneficial bacteria that minor mistakes won't necessarily kill an anemone. Ammonia spikes shouldn't happen as often due both to experience and an abundance of bacteria. To a lesser degree, the skimmer has something to do with it. It takes a while for skimmers to break in. Maybe not as long as this thread suggests but I'm thinking out loud here. Further, during the first year we've usually gotten a good amount of algae in the refugium to help with nitrates and phosphates. Not to mention the copepods that grow in there that can help feed the anemone. So putting off a water change for a few days doesn't necessarily cause spikes of nitrates. At least ones that would cause irreversible damage. This is what is meant by having a mature tank. This, combined with knowing enough not to make major mistakes, allows us a better chance to house anemones. Another factor is that many of us start out going cheap on the lighting for our first tanks, not realizing that you get what you pay for. Anemones need light to feed off of the algae in their tentacles. Without the right light temperature and PAR rating the algae can't grow and thus cannot feed the anemone. Light temperature is one of the most underrated factors in reef keeping. This, of course, has nothing to do with the tank maturity, but I wanted to throw that in here.

06/01/2011, 07:16 AM	#13
canrio Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Alton, Illinois Posts: 87	I guess I will put off purchasing an anemone as my tank is only a month old. Thanks for the honest reply's. I'm new to Reef Central and saltwater.