Round looking green and black thing n the sand

Miguelh1302 · 01/12/2016, 07:53 AM

Guys anybody has any idea what might that be????? Thanks

pyithar · 01/12/2016, 08:31 AM

it looks like a cap of a container buried in the sand. no?

cincyjim · 01/12/2016, 08:43 AM

To me it looks like the snail's door (not sure what it's really called).

Jone · 01/12/2016, 08:54 AM

Hate to say it but your snail is dead,,,get him out of there ASAP..your right,,its the snails door,,for say..
Turbo snails need help to get right side up when they are on their backs..something to keep an eye on ,,in the future

MondoBongo · 01/12/2016, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cincyjim

To me it looks like the snail's door (not sure what it's really called).

operculum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operculum_%28gastropod%29

Sugar Magnolia · 01/12/2016, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cincyjim

To me it looks like the snail's door (not sure what it's really called).

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Originally Posted by MondoBongo

operculum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operculum_%28gastropod%29

Yep, I agree.

Miguelh1302 · 01/12/2016, 10:32 AM

Lmao crap I didn't think about that, I do know they can't flip back, I missed this one because am getting home to a dark tank, something to watch for, thanks guys

chimmike · 01/12/2016, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jone

Hate to say it but your snail is dead,,,get him out of there ASAP..your right,,its the snails door,,for say..
Turbo snails need help to get right side up when they are on their backs..something to keep an eye on ,,in the future

remove a dead snail?

why?

the other cuc will take care of it.

MondoBongo · 01/12/2016, 11:03 AM

Those turbo snails are a big pile of mess. Unless you have a really large clean up crew, it might be a better idea to remove it. They stink to high heaven too.

Jone · 01/12/2016, 11:38 AM

Always remove them,,why keep that rotting mess in your DT..Each to thier own I guess,,but all dead animals get removed in my system ASAP..LOLOL

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Originally Posted by chimmike

remove a dead snail?

why?

the other cuc will take care of it.

Miguelh1302 · 01/12/2016, 11:54 AM

Lmao I usually remove all of them but the hermit craps, just in case somebody wants to use it

chimmike · 01/12/2016, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jone

Always remove them,,why keep that rotting mess in your DT..Each to thier own I guess,,but all dead animals get removed in my system ASAP..LOLOL

why? What removes them from the ocean when they die?

the cleanup crew....hermits, other snails, shrimp, etc.

thelawnwrangler · 01/12/2016, 12:14 PM

I am snail suicide duty every other day

I think the get on the business end of that powerhead and right on their back in the sand lol

MondoBongo · 01/12/2016, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chimmike

why? What removes them from the ocean when they die?

the cleanup crew....hermits, other snails, shrimp, etc.

the ocean tends to be a slightly larger place than your average home aquarium.

chimmike · 01/12/2016, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MondoBongo

the ocean tends to be a slightly larger place than your average home aquarium.

All I'm saying is, removing it is completely unnecessary. It's an ecosystem and it's made to handle things like that (unless the tank is a week old). Snails and hermits will eat it. It's free food.

heathlindner25 · 01/12/2016, 04:18 PM

You should always remove dead turbo snails if you have a smaller system . They become a huge stinky mess when they die.

Miguelh1302 · 01/13/2016, 07:20 AM

I agree with all of u guys, but like chimmike says, there's nothing like free food, plus some people out there like the realistic look of those empty shells on the sand

MondoBongo · 01/13/2016, 08:52 AM

the empty shell is fine, once it's actually empty.

keep in mind, most of us go through a large of trouble to make sure the nutrients going in to our systems don't outpace the nutrients coming out of our systems. that's how you end up with nitrates and/or phosphates, and the associated problems like algae blooms.

if you dumped a whole can of fish food in to your tank, it would have a similar effect.

but, your tank, your call.

chimmike · 01/13/2016, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MondoBongo

if you dumped a whole can of fish food in to your tank, it would have a similar effect.

but, your tank, your call.

similar effect to 1 snail dying?

I think you're highly overestimating this.

How many of you guys have found empty shells in your tanks before, because you can't catch every single snail or hermit that dies when it's freshly dead? I never once had a dead snail cause any algae or crash to any of my multiple tanks. I think it's insane to even think a dead snail is going to wreck the quality or parameters or even affect them in any major way.

MondoBongo · 01/13/2016, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chimmike

similar effect to 1 snail dying?

I think you're highly overestimating this.

How many of you guys have found empty shells in your tanks before, because you can't catch every single snail or hermit that dies when it's freshly dead? I never once had a dead snail cause any algae or crash to any of my multiple tanks. I think it's insane to even think a dead snail is going to wreck the quality or parameters or even affect them in any major way.

i've lost large turbos before. the most recent one sat there for a day or two before i realized it was dead and pulled it out. it stunk to high heaven, and was still quite full of rotting gastropod. my CUC had barely put a dent in it.

i didn't say that it would single handedly cause your tank to crash, or completely ruin your water quality. in most systems dumping a whole mess of food in there won't cause things to implode either, but it can certainly be a contributing factor.

it's pretty simple: a large amount of organic material decomposing in your tank isn't what you want. if it didn't matter we wouldn't spend so much time an energy on things like nutrient export, fuges, carbon dosing, etc...

once again though, it's your tank. so do with it what you will. my cuc gets plenty enough to snack on from what the fish miss during feeding times. i don't need a big stanky, gooey mess of a gold ball sized snail rotting in my tank to feed them with.

Miguelh1302 · 01/13/2016, 09:10 PM

This is actually my first big snail that die in my tank, am pretty good catching them and flipping them the right way, but I do get all u guys point here, I don't think one would make a different but a couple of them will, well it all depends on water changes and all that pretty stuff, like u say lol our tanks our calls

01/12/2016, 07:53 AM	#1
Miguelh1302 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 721	Round looking green and black thing n the sand Guys anybody has any idea what might that be????? Thanks

01/12/2016, 08:31 AM	#2
pyithar Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: yangon,burma(myanmar) Posts: 1,786	it looks like a cap of a container buried in the sand. no? __________________ take it easy, pyithar Current Tank Info: 150G display, 50G sump, mixed reef

01/12/2016, 08:43 AM	#3
cincyjim Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,147	To me it looks like the snail's door (not sure what it's really called). __________________ Jim Current Tank Info: SCA 150G, 5 inch sand bed, 2 Tunze 6095s, ReefBreeders v2+ 50" with 2 all Blue Reefbrites, and Continuous Water Change System

01/12/2016, 11:03 AM	#9
MondoBongo Obligate Feeder Obsessed Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,061	Those turbo snails are a big pile of mess. Unless you have a really large clean up crew, it might be a better idea to remove it. They stink to high heaven too. __________________ [Citation Needed] "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right" - xkcd Current Tank Info: A rectangular shaped money pit.

01/13/2016, 08:52 AM	#18
MondoBongo Obligate Feeder Obsessed Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,061	the empty shell is fine, once it's actually empty. keep in mind, most of us go through a large of trouble to make sure the nutrients going in to our systems don't outpace the nutrients coming out of our systems. that's how you end up with nitrates and/or phosphates, and the associated problems like algae blooms. if you dumped a whole can of fish food in to your tank, it would have a similar effect. but, your tank, your call. __________________ [Citation Needed] "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right" - xkcd Current Tank Info: A rectangular shaped money pit.

01/12/2016, 08:54 AM	#4
Jone Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 517	Hate to say it but your snail is dead,,,get him out of there ASAP..your right,,its the snails door,,for say.. Turbo snails need help to get right side up when they are on their backs..something to keep an eye on ,,in the future

01/12/2016, 10:32 AM	#7
Miguelh1302 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 721	Lmao crap I didn't think about that, I do know they can't flip back, I missed this one because am getting home to a dark tank, something to watch for, thanks guys

01/12/2016, 11:54 AM	#11
Miguelh1302 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 721	Lmao I usually remove all of them but the hermit craps, just in case somebody wants to use it

01/12/2016, 12:14 PM	#13
thelawnwrangler Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 863	I am snail suicide duty every other day I think the get on the business end of that powerhead and right on their back in the sand lol

01/12/2016, 04:18 PM	#16
heathlindner25 Moved On Join Date: May 2012 Location: flowery branch georgia Posts: 3,644	You should always remove dead turbo snails if you have a smaller system . They become a huge stinky mess when they die.

01/13/2016, 07:20 AM	#17
Miguelh1302 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 721	I agree with all of u guys, but like chimmike says, there's nothing like free food, plus some people out there like the realistic look of those empty shells on the sand

01/13/2016, 09:10 PM	#21
Miguelh1302 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 721	This is actually my first big snail that die in my tank, am pretty good catching them and flipping them the right way, but I do get all u guys point here, I don't think one would make a different but a couple of them will, well it all depends on water changes and all that pretty stuff, like u say lol our tanks our calls