Reef Central Online Community

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment
Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 03/12/2016, 12:41 PM   #26
biecacka
Registered Member
 
biecacka's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 6,361
Thank you for your clarification on that! Makes more sense now.

Corey


biecacka is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/12/2016, 01:50 PM   #27
Kengar
Registered Member
 
Kengar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Gaithersburg, MD (D.C. Metro Area)
Posts: 1,970
My pleasure.
Ken


__________________
Resident Patent Attorney
Kengar is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/17/2016, 10:45 AM   #28
thejuggernaut
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lake Jackson, Tx
Posts: 548
Quote:
Originally Posted by Techbiker View Post
It may be fun for you!, but not really for all the people who did the original design of the Gyre, and all the people who make their living and feed their families because this products.
People like you that is part of this knock off on intellectual property is the disgrace of your profession, just sad
I think personally you should move to China and work more closely with your people, and forget that at any point you belong to a country of entrepreneurs, and people who want to make a living with their originality, not abusing the inventions of others.
Here we go, no wonder your Avatar is a pirate, and you really make the lawyer profession look like they really are pirates, let me know if you need some money.
Good Lord. You don't quite get it. It is just business and the law. If they have a product that is original enough, they will get a patent, and will be able to get money back out of Jebao. Until then, what is their reason not to make them, cause Maxspect asked?! With that logic, Good Year shouldn't make tires, because someone else invented the wheel before them..... Do you think Bose complains because other companies make speakers also? No, they just try to improve upon either their product or in their case, their brand name to out compete them for customers. If Maxspect wants to outsell Jebao, then maybe they should think about making a product that can actually talk to other units, or include 0-10V inputs from the factory without gouging me for another $100. Congrats, they were first to the market with this product. Now that there is competition, instead of complaining, improve upon your design so that your product is more attractive to consumers. But they don't want to do that. Or how about having waited to see if you could even get a patent issued BEFORE releasing your product into the wild. That is what drug companies do. Releasing a product before trying to protect it, then complaining when others make similar products doesn't make Jebao thieves, it makes Maxspect dumb.


thejuggernaut is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/17/2016, 11:12 AM   #29
dabob79
Registered Member
 
dabob79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Mascoutah, IL
Posts: 464
Quote:
Originally Posted by thejuggernaut View Post
Good Lord. You don't quite get it. It is just business and the law. If they have a product that is original enough, they will get a patent, and will be able to get money back out of Jebao. Until then, what is their reason not to make them, cause Maxspect asked?! With that logic, Good Year shouldn't make tires, because someone else invented the wheel before them..... Do you think Bose complains because other companies make speakers also? No, they just try to improve upon either their product or in their case, their brand name to out compete them for customers. If Maxspect wants to outsell Jebao, then maybe they should think about making a product that can actually talk to other units, or include 0-10V inputs from the factory without gouging me for another $100. Congrats, they were first to the market with this product. Now that there is competition, instead of complaining, improve upon your design so that your product is more attractive to consumers. But they don't want to do that. Or how about having waited to see if you could even get a patent issued BEFORE releasing your product into the wild. That is what drug companies do. Releasing a product before trying to protect it, then complaining when others make similar products doesn't make Jebao thieves, it makes Maxspect dumb.
Very well said! It will definitely be interesting to see how all this plays out. In the meantime, I may be picking up one of Jebao's crossflow powerheads! lol


__________________
Tank is finally wet!
USAF Veteran, 12 years
Go Cardinals!!

Current Tank Info: Marineland 93 gallon rimless cube, Radion LED/T5 Combo, Eshopps sump, Nyos skimmer, Apex controller
dabob79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/26/2016, 07:12 AM   #30
REEFCHITOWN
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 33
This is an interesting letter i received about the CP40. Seems like there will not be any patent issues after all.

Take a look.


Attached Images
File Type: jpg cp40 1.jpg (17.4 KB, 130 views)
File Type: jpg cp40 2.jpg (71.9 KB, 139 views)
REEFCHITOWN is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/29/2016, 12:13 PM   #31
Kengar
Registered Member
 
Kengar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Gaithersburg, MD (D.C. Metro Area)
Posts: 1,970
Did Jaebo send that to you? How many more pages are there?


__________________
Resident Patent Attorney
Kengar is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/29/2016, 04:40 PM   #32
sixpackgarage
reef mechanic
 
sixpackgarage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 819
Interesting stuff, but is a public forum a place for an attorney to discuss pending cases? Kind of seems odd. If I were your client, I'd want my case kept private.


__________________
my build:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2512689
my fuge thread:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2523500

Current Tank Info: DSA NEO 65G reef powered by Kessil
sixpackgarage is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/29/2016, 04:47 PM   #33
Kengar
Registered Member
 
Kengar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Gaithersburg, MD (D.C. Metro Area)
Posts: 1,970
He put up a document from counsel. I'm trying to figure out whether it was prepared for him or someone else from whom he received it. SOMEone pretty much forfeited privilege, and I was surprised to see this letter showing up here. I'm not looking to discuss the merits of it.


__________________
Resident Patent Attorney
Kengar is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/30/2016, 09:01 AM   #34
xeniabelgium
Registered Member
 
xeniabelgium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: meerhout Belgium
Posts: 10
got this document also by mail earlier this week.
send by Eric W.

i'm not the only one over here that received this mail.

document has 35 pages with the tech details on the jebao cp pump



PDF file is to large to post.
can't figure out how to...

sacha


xeniabelgium is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/30/2016, 12:15 PM   #35
Kengar
Registered Member
 
Kengar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Gaithersburg, MD (D.C. Metro Area)
Posts: 1,970
who is eric w?


__________________
Resident Patent Attorney
Kengar is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2025 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2022
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.