1st attempt at TTM. Advice?

[Grimreaperz]

Hey everyone so I got my first fish today. Beautiful Firefish!

My TTM tank 1 consists of.
1x 150w heater.
1x 240gph powerhead.
1x bubbler with air stone.
60w lamp.

Is this too much flow for him? Please see video and give me and advice.

I will be purchasing 2 HOB filters tomorrow as the ones I had leak and don't work


https://youtu.be/8EX0-qXj0GU


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[sfdan]

Whether it is too much flow or not (which it probably is), the powerhead is not necessary and more difficult to sterilize in between transfers. The air stone and bubbler is more than enough to oxygenate and circulate the water, then just throw it away and replace with fresh tubing and a fresh air stone for the next tank.

Having a bright light on the tank will also not help with stress. If there is background light on in the room that is no problem, but I wouldn't put a light directly over the tank. Personally I painted my TTM tanks black on 3 sides and put them in a dimly lit area so the whole thing is like a cave for the fish.

[Grimreaperz]

Originally Posted by sfdan

Whether it is too much flow or not (which it probably is), the powerhead is not necessary and more difficult to sterilize in between transfers. The air stone and bubbler is more than enough to oxygenate and circulate the water, then just throw it away and replace with fresh tubing and a fresh air stone for the next tank.

Having a bright light on the tank will also not help with stress. If there is background light on in the room that is no problem, but I wouldn't put a light directly over the tank. Personally I painted my TTM tanks black on 3 sides and put them in a dimly lit area so the whole thing is like a cave for the fish.

That bubbler ended up failing so I am now using one with a lot more power. 2 outputs for air. Just using those now. I will take the light our of the mix! Thanks for the heads up. I have this setup in my garage it usually is pretty dark. Should I just put the garage light on for a couple hours a day for feeding?

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[sfdan]

Yeah that sounds fine. I wouldn't worry too much about the lighting other than I wouldn't put one directly over the tank and I wouldn't put the tank in a high traffic area (which it sounds like yours isn't).

[keiferd]

Good thinking with the screen for the firefish. Mine jumped out of the tank night 1 and died a carpety death. It seems like you are over-doing it for a quarantine tank though. What is the main tank you are putting it in?

[keiferd]

and the less light the better, fish seem more secure when they think they are hidden.

[aclinville]

You don't need hob filters since at the most they're only in there no more than 72 hours. And it's just something else to clean.

[Grimreaperz]

Originally Posted by keiferd

Good thinking with the screen for the firefish. Mine jumped out of the tank night 1 and died a carpety death. It seems like you are over-doing it for a quarantine tank though. What is the main tank you are putting it in?

This is just 1 of the 2x 5g I have for TTM. My main QT is a 10g I will fill with tank water at time of need and just do lots of water changes and dose with conditioner and that bacteria in a bottle. He will stay in here for about 4 weeks (after 12 day ttm) This is most likely way overkill for a firefish but want to get into good habits from the beginning. after this is done it will be added to my 36g bow front DT as the first fish. Then my cardinal or wrasse(pink streaked) is next.

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[Grimreaperz]

Originally Posted by sfdan

Yeah that sounds fine. I wouldn't worry too much about the lighting other than I wouldn't put one directly over the tank and I wouldn't put the tank in a high traffic area (which it sounds like yours isn't).

I do use this as the main entrance to the house. So indirect light may come and go throughout the day. I wont be using the lamp. And will minimize my constant checking. I have spectrum fish pellets and frozen mysis shrimp for feeding.

I Hope Phoenix gets through the other end to make it into my DT. Any other advice to assist in bettering Phoenix's chances is definitely welcome.

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[Grimreaperz]

Originally Posted by aclinville

You don't need hob filters since at the most they're only in there no more than 72 hours. And it's just something else to clean.

Yeah I just re-read the TTM article and will be scrapping the HOB filter idea maybe just get one for my Main QT if anything. Will be getting more air line and air stones though.

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[Grimreaperz]

So just an update. Completed my 1st of 4 transfers today. All went well. Fed him before transfer. And After. He is eating well! Makes me happy to see him eat. I have been feeding very small amounts coming back and if it's all gone I will feed another small amount up to 4 times a day.

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[JMorris271]

Its important to match your tank temps and salinity in each transfer.

[Mike Ordner]

Try to use the airstone with the finest bubbles. I purchased a bag of one hundred Lee's discard a stone air stone fine so I am sure not to cross contaminate between transfers. I also put in a dose of prime on day two just to make sure ammonia is not a problem.

[Grimreaperz]

Yeah I matched salinity and temp before putting water in he new tank. And I bought 10 air stones so I am not using the same ones over. I am also swapping out tubing. He is happy and eating today. I dosed a bit of prime yesterday. Should I leave it or dose again today?

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[Grimreaperz]

Alright we successfully made it through TTM. Put it back into the clean 5g as I may do chemical treatment as well. Suggestions on preferred treatments and schedules? I should have done this during ttm but live and learn. I will place him in my 10g main QT for 1-2 weeks depending on how long treatment lasts.

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[lespaul339]

I would start by dosing two rounds of prazi pro, and then do a formalin dip before you put into DT. When I do TTM, I usually start off with a formalin dip right out of their shipping bag. I just make sure to match my water to the SG they come in, float the bag for 15 mins, and then dump them in a tank with formalin for 50 mins. Then into their first tank they go. Then I usually dose prazi on the third and fifth tank transfer. After they make it through TTM I watch them in a quarantine tank for a month of observation before I add them to my display tank.

[hkgar]

I assume you have two heaters?

[Grimreaperz]

Originally Posted by hkgar

I assume you have two heaters?

I have 5 why?

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[Grimreaperz]

Originally Posted by lespaul339

I would start by dosing two rounds of prazi pro, and then do a formalin dip before you put into DT. When I do TTM, I usually start off with a formalin dip right out of their shipping bag. I just make sure to match my water to the SG they come in, float the bag for 15 mins, and then dump them in a tank with formalin for 50 mins. Then into their first tank they go. Then I usually dose prazi on the third and fifth tank transfer. After they make it through TTM I watch them in a quarantine tank for a month of observation before I add them to my display tank.

Awesome okay so I have the other 5g I use for ttm should I wait for it to dry the alloted time. Put him in that with formalin for 50 min. Then put him back in the main 5g qt for 2 rounds of Prazi. Then put in my Main 10g QT for observation after that. Then once a good observation period is done into my DT as long as nothing comes up in observation. This wasn't shipped to me I got him from a fish store about 1.5 hrs away and drove him myself.

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[JamesHolt]

Originally Posted by Grimreaperz

I have 5 why?

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So you can let one be soaking in mild bleach solution (to kill any possible ICH)
while you use the other on the new tank..

[Grimreaperz]

Originally Posted by JamesHolt

So you can let one be soaking in mild bleach solution (to kill any possible ICH)
while you use the other on the new tank..

Lol I did read the article before doing TTM. As I said TTM is done looking for advice on chemical treatments. Not lectures on how to TTM.... and further more you should let all equipment remain dry for 24hrs or more to be certain I did bleach soak and dry for 24+hrs for all equipment PVC and tanks I used.

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[hkgar]

Relax, nobody's lecturing. Just trying to make sure all the basis are covered.
Your first post said you had 1 150 watt heater.

[Pigpen17]

That was my same thought. 1x? Must mean for each tank.