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10/15/2017, 06:01 AM | #1201 | |
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I love Red Dragon pumps and their Skimmers I have used them a ton over the years. Why choose Abyzz over Red Dragon? I have never used one of their pumps so I am interested in learning a little more about them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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- Shaginwagon - Current Tank Info: 550 Gallon SPS Reef l 200 Gallon Sump l Skimmer: Vertex Alpha 250 l Return Pump: Reeflo Hammerhead l Tank Circulation: (2) Maxspect Gyre XF280 l Lighting: (3) 400w Halides & (3) AI Hydra 52 HD |
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10/15/2017, 08:50 AM | #1202 |
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10/15/2017, 03:04 PM | #1203 |
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Honestly I’m going to go with what I know works well.
Ordered the Red Dragon pump and controller today. I have a GHL controller and if I ever want to switch to Apex, the RD will work with that also.
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- Shaginwagon - Current Tank Info: 550 Gallon SPS Reef l 200 Gallon Sump l Skimmer: Vertex Alpha 250 l Return Pump: Reeflo Hammerhead l Tank Circulation: (2) Maxspect Gyre XF280 l Lighting: (3) 400w Halides & (3) AI Hydra 52 HD |
10/15/2017, 04:38 PM | #1204 | |
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A very wise choice. Wish I had done that myself from the start as I was contemplating the RD, but didn’t want to spend the money, hindsight 20/20. |
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10/15/2017, 04:45 PM | #1205 |
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They are quiet, however; some experience a wining noise. Do a search, many reported this. I too came across it, my fix was to turn off the pump for sometime, then run it at 20% for a while then run it at 100% for a while and then it magically went away. Not saying that’s the fix but that worked for me for (2) of the pumps. However; my third pump which I use for closed loop purposes it has to run at 60/70% max, past that and it whines at a high pitch. Customer support was never able to resolve. In fact, if you go through the trouble of reading these posts their official answer to me was ‘run it at 70%’. Honestly, if you have the money go with Red Dragon. I will be switching all pumps once these die off. Your mileage may vary as does for everyone, many people love these pumps so take my situation, albeit 3 pumps and 4 or 5 reeflinks later, with a grain of salt. |
10/15/2017, 04:53 PM | #1206 | |
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Honestly they are expensive but they also have never ever failed me and their build quality is hands down amazing. I have their Skimmers, and if I could have my return pump as a RD I would but my fish room is in the basement so I needed the Reeflo Hammerhead for the high pressure. For the refugium and frag tank I’m going to run the RD. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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- Shaginwagon - Current Tank Info: 550 Gallon SPS Reef l 200 Gallon Sump l Skimmer: Vertex Alpha 250 l Return Pump: Reeflo Hammerhead l Tank Circulation: (2) Maxspect Gyre XF280 l Lighting: (3) 400w Halides & (3) AI Hydra 52 HD |
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10/15/2017, 05:24 PM | #1207 |
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You guys are really killing my budget for this build. The price of silence eh.
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10/15/2017, 05:50 PM | #1208 |
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10/15/2017, 06:05 PM | #1209 |
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Thats another spanner in the works. Are DC pumps seriously that hot?
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10/15/2017, 06:09 PM | #1210 |
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10/15/2017, 06:15 PM | #1211 |
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Would anyone be against the Red Dragon 3 super silence non adjustable?
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10/15/2017, 08:49 PM | #1212 | |
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Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like bananas. Current Tank Info: 78"x36"x27" acrylic, 6 Orphek Atlantik V3+ Compacts, MRC Orca Pro II w/washdown, CalcFeeder Pro AC3, Emperor Aquatics 80w UV, 80/20 aluminum stand, Vortech MP60's, Theiling Rollermat, GHL Profilux 3.1T EX, Kessil H380 |
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10/15/2017, 08:53 PM | #1213 |
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Buddy of mine runs a RD. Very nice pump ..... but then, it should be!
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Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs |
10/15/2017, 08:55 PM | #1214 |
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The RD pumps transfer almost no heat to the water. I have a 1HP chiller which has legitimately never kicked on even in the summer months.
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10/16/2017, 06:56 AM | #1215 |
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The only thing I would says about some of the larger RD pumps is they require 2.5” inlet and 2” outlet pipe and fittings which is massive.
If your running the pumps external, you need to re-drill your bulkhead hole to account for the larger pipe size. I really don’t like going with pumps that require over 2” plumbing because the majority of pumps are around 1.5” for high pressure pumps, and the cost of fittings over 2” drastically increases.
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- Shaginwagon - Current Tank Info: 550 Gallon SPS Reef l 200 Gallon Sump l Skimmer: Vertex Alpha 250 l Return Pump: Reeflo Hammerhead l Tank Circulation: (2) Maxspect Gyre XF280 l Lighting: (3) 400w Halides & (3) AI Hydra 52 HD |
10/16/2017, 02:22 PM | #1216 |
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If I was looking for a monster pump that needs like 4000 GPH at 20 ft of head, I would stick to a 3phase AC pump with a VFD to adjust speed. You can probably even get it to work with a 0-10VDC output from an apex. a 3phase pool pump and VFD is still probably chepaer than something like an abyzz. Yes they are noisy but if you are moving that much water I have to imagine you have a remote sump setup and aren't too concerned about noise. Which is why I never really understood some of these Abyzz pumps.
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10/16/2017, 02:54 PM | #1217 | |
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Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs |
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10/16/2017, 03:25 PM | #1218 |
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Agreed, their pumps are some of the best on the market. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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- Shaginwagon - Current Tank Info: 550 Gallon SPS Reef l 200 Gallon Sump l Skimmer: Vertex Alpha 250 l Return Pump: Reeflo Hammerhead l Tank Circulation: (2) Maxspect Gyre XF280 l Lighting: (3) 400w Halides & (3) AI Hydra 52 HD |
10/16/2017, 06:02 PM | #1219 |
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I've read the RD pumps aren't great with head pressure. Would a 50w (4500l/h) do a 100gal Cade?
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10/17/2017, 08:57 AM | #1220 | |
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Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs |
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