Feeding Large Predators, Please Read - Page 7

Finsky · 08/14/2011, 01:08 PM

I have a five foot 125 mixed reef and the two 3,250 gph Koralia Hydor 8 circulating pumps was one of the best things I did for my aquarium.

I have one 6" under the surface in the upper left end three inches from the front facing slightly upward towards the opposite back right corner.

I have a second 6" under the surface in the upper right end three inches from the front facing slightly upward towards the opposite back left corner.

These two currents crash into as well as flow through/past the opposing Hydor 8's current gives the water:

"Laminar flow straight, unidirectional flow, like that produced from a powerhead, or at the latter stages of a wave whose energy has been channeled in one direction by the reef.

Surge is similar, only on a larger scale. To an observer viewing a school of fish, surge is when the school remains in the same pocket of water, but due to surge, the pocket of water and the school of fish suddenly move six feet in one direction, and just as quickly move back.

Turbulence: Turbulence is the random flow of water in multiple directions. Of the three flow patterns, turbulence is the most desirable and the most difficult to produce."

My two red rose bubble tips and two green bubble tips along with various lps and sps corals, zoanthus, mushrooms, two maxima and two crocea clams along with my various tangs, mated pair of tomato clowns, damsels, etc. much health.

Dragon moray ki · 08/22/2011, 02:44 PM

Mine did the same thing pesky lfs try gost shrimp to entice him to eat and then he may sart eating frozen again

pooldude · 03/08/2012, 09:57 AM

wow

gamecockfan803 · 03/08/2012, 10:55 PM

Great article

eel guy · 03/12/2013, 11:10 AM

lol i fed my lions (volitans ) by hand as a do all my preds

SantaMonica · 03/15/2013, 09:29 PM

My only recommendation for FW feeders is if they are needed to get a blue ribbon eel to eat. Of course any ribbon eel must have an enclosed pipe to cover his entire length or else he'll never eat (scared of being seen/eaten), but dumping 20 feeder golds/guppys in can do wonders to snap the eel into feeding mode.

Then it's time to switch to silversides.

DpsiQ00 · 01/07/2014, 09:03 PM

I'm thinking about putting a tessi, and a blackedge together. I've had a zebra eel, an a yellow head eel with other tank mates but never two eels together in the tank. Has any one had any luck? I've seen videos on YouTube, that's what gave me the idea of trying it.

Fish Stix · 07/03/2015, 10:53 AM

It's really not that hard to get your predators on pellet food...

Finsky · 07/07/2015, 09:58 PM

My 12" and growing Stars-n-Stripes puffer, "The Captain", loves Hikari Massive Delite. Each round thick Nugget is gobbled as quick as I can drop them and I need to regulate his eating as he would eat half a bag and make himself sick.

My 7" Annularis Angel likes them broken in quarters and the 5-6" Picasso, Indian, and Undulated Triggers will bite the in half as they sink. I have had a 3" Huma Huma Rectangular Trigger who has not been introduced to the massive for the big boys!

47% protein and lots of vitamins.

It's Hikari for my aqua beast.. I mean aqua kids.

Finsky · 07/07/2015, 10:03 PM

Addendum, I was putting a sponge prefilter in my canister intake near where I put the krill and the Captain happened to be nearby and clamped on my middle finger. I yanked my hand out of the water and I think I scared him as much as my finger hurt although only temporarily. It could have been worse as he has a lot of crunching power. :-)

deaddat · 08/08/2015, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish Stix

It's really not that hard to get your predators on pellet food...

Tell me about your scorpionfish experience...

tsunade · 09/16/2015, 06:53 AM

Very good article. Thanks for sharing

MadCnty · 02/11/2016, 03:05 AM

When I was working at a LFS a customer wanted to buy a green moray... He liked to slide between our tanks at night and eat other fishes... Well as I was netting said moray he writhed out of the net onto the floor... I though np I will just reach down and catch him like a snake...lol Needless to say I learned quite a lesson that day... :P
Also we had a customer tank that we did bi-weekly maintenance on... They had a dog faced puffer that was the meanest fish I ever dealt with... I know this is no shark or lion but he was a sneaky sob and would bite/spit every chance he got...

OBPuffski · 04/23/2017, 04:41 PM

Current tank 125- Spike puffer, snowflake eels, red/orange frog, fox face & benny.

I would like to add Huma and Niger Trigger anyone have advice regarding compatibility to my existing ecosystem?

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Martin72 · 05/06/2017, 12:28 PM

Hi I'm relatively new to the hobby got a aquael 150 110gallon tank been up and running 6 months now. Really need some advice on my new lionfish had him 10 days and he's not eaten once yet he's swimming round no problem but when I try to feed him he just isn't bothered tried with a feeding stick glass shrimp mussels clams don't know where to turn. Should I just keep going the way I am and he'll not let himself starve and self presavation will kick in or is there anything else I can do.

carrots · 05/06/2017, 07:06 PM

Martin, try live feeder guppies to assure he eats then train it to take food off feeding stick.

Martin72 · 05/08/2017, 04:13 PM

Thanks for the advice but I have been trying the feeder stick from day one. But I think the guppies or mollies might help first day of treatment was today got another two days but I'll pick up 3 or 4 guppies tomorrow. Hopefully he will be able to see soon��

socalireefdood · 01/19/2018, 01:41 AM

good read

cwschoon · 02/22/2018, 10:24 PM

Has anyone ever had an Angler take frozen food? I have not and tho I would like to get one, I will not if the general consensus is no. I will not feed a saltwater fish freshwater fish.
Thanks.

08/14/2011, 01:08 PM	#151
Finsky Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 746	I have a five foot 125 mixed reef and the two 3,250 gph Koralia Hydor 8 circulating pumps was one of the best things I did for my aquarium. I have one 6" under the surface in the upper left end three inches from the front facing slightly upward towards the opposite back right corner. I have a second 6" under the surface in the upper right end three inches from the front facing slightly upward towards the opposite back left corner. These two currents crash into as well as flow through/past the opposing Hydor 8's current gives the water: "Laminar flow straight, unidirectional flow, like that produced from a powerhead, or at the latter stages of a wave whose energy has been channeled in one direction by the reef. Surge is similar, only on a larger scale. To an observer viewing a school of fish, surge is when the school remains in the same pocket of water, but due to surge, the pocket of water and the school of fish suddenly move six feet in one direction, and just as quickly move back. Turbulence: Turbulence is the random flow of water in multiple directions. Of the three flow patterns, turbulence is the most desirable and the most difficult to produce." My two red rose bubble tips and two green bubble tips along with various lps and sps corals, zoanthus, mushrooms, two maxima and two crocea clams along with my various tangs, mated pair of tomato clowns, damsels, etc. much health. __________________ Finsky Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef - 250 lbs of live rock, Rena XP4, two Hydor Koralia 3250s, Aqua-Medic Tuboflotor multi 1000 skimmer - Two 60" Marineland Reef Capable LEDs - 8 1/2 years

08/22/2011, 02:44 PM	#152
Dragon moray ki Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,236	Mine did the same thing pesky lfs try gost shrimp to entice him to eat and then he may sart eating frozen again __________________ "He who changes the water also picks the fish." MrTuskfish David aka sandy (ask the loungers.) Current Tank Info: 600 gallon Green moray tank connected to 400 gallon shark pond. 90 gallon mixed reef

03/15/2013, 09:29 PM	#156
SantaMonica Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santa Monica, California, USA Posts: 2,511	My only recommendation for FW feeders is if they are needed to get a blue ribbon eel to eat. Of course any ribbon eel must have an enclosed pipe to cover his entire length or else he'll never eat (scared of being seen/eaten), but dumping 20 feeder golds/guppys in can do wonders to snap the eel into feeding mode. Then it's time to switch to silversides. __________________ Inventor of the easy-to-DIY upflow scrubber, and also the waterfall scrubber that everyone loves to build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1424843

02/11/2016, 03:05 AM	#163
MadCnty Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Pendleton, IN USA Posts: 154	When I was working at a LFS a customer wanted to buy a green moray... He liked to slide between our tanks at night and eat other fishes... Well as I was netting said moray he writhed out of the net onto the floor... I though np I will just reach down and catch him like a snake...lol Needless to say I learned quite a lesson that day... :P Also we had a customer tank that we did bi-weekly maintenance on... They had a dog faced puffer that was the meanest fish I ever dealt with... I know this is no shark or lion but he was a sneaky sob and would bite/spit every chance he got... Last edited by MadCnty; 02/11/2016 at 03:10 AM. Reason: forgot to add...

03/08/2012, 09:57 AM	#153
pooldude Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4	wow

03/08/2012, 10:55 PM	#154
gamecockfan803 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 38	Great article

03/12/2013, 11:10 AM	#155
eel guy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: canada bc Posts: 93	lol i fed my lions (volitans ) by hand as a do all my preds

01/07/2014, 09:03 PM	#157
DpsiQ00 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 18	I'm thinking about putting a tessi, and a blackedge together. I've had a zebra eel, an a yellow head eel with other tank mates but never two eels together in the tank. Has any one had any luck? I've seen videos on YouTube, that's what gave me the idea of trying it.

07/03/2015, 10:53 AM	#158
Fish Stix Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 50	It's really not that hard to get your predators on pellet food...

07/07/2015, 09:58 PM	#159
Finsky Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 746	My 12" and growing Stars-n-Stripes puffer, "The Captain", loves Hikari Massive Delite. Each round thick Nugget is gobbled as quick as I can drop them and I need to regulate his eating as he would eat half a bag and make himself sick. My 7" Annularis Angel likes them broken in quarters and the 5-6" Picasso, Indian, and Undulated Triggers will bite the in half as they sink. I have had a 3" Huma Huma Rectangular Trigger who has not been introduced to the massive for the big boys! 47% protein and lots of vitamins. It's Hikari for my aqua beast.. I mean aqua kids.

07/07/2015, 10:03 PM	#160
Finsky Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 746	Addendum, I was putting a sponge prefilter in my canister intake near where I put the krill and the Captain happened to be nearby and clamped on my middle finger. I yanked my hand out of the water and I think I scared him as much as my finger hurt although only temporarily. It could have been worse as he has a lot of crunching power. :-)

09/16/2015, 06:53 AM	#162
tsunade Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Orange County - California Posts: 60	Very good article. Thanks for sharing

04/23/2017, 04:41 PM	#164
OBPuffski Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Ocean Beach, CA Posts: 9	Current tank 125- Spike puffer, snowflake eels, red/orange frog, fox face & benny. I would like to add Huma and Niger Trigger anyone have advice regarding compatibility to my existing ecosystem? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

05/06/2017, 12:28 PM	#165
Martin72 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 3	Hi I'm relatively new to the hobby got a aquael 150 110gallon tank been up and running 6 months now. Really need some advice on my new lionfish had him 10 days and he's not eaten once yet he's swimming round no problem but when I try to feed him he just isn't bothered tried with a feeding stick glass shrimp mussels clams don't know where to turn. Should I just keep going the way I am and he'll not let himself starve and self presavation will kick in or is there anything else I can do.

05/06/2017, 07:06 PM	#166
carrots Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Mendham, NJ USA Posts: 395	Martin, try live feeder guppies to assure he eats then train it to take food off feeding stick.

05/08/2017, 04:13 PM	#167
Martin72 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 3	Thanks for the advice but I have been trying the feeder stick from day one. But I think the guppies or mollies might help first day of treatment was today got another two days but I'll pick up 3 or 4 guppies tomorrow. Hopefully he will be able to see soon��

01/19/2018, 01:41 AM	#168
socalireefdood Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 51	good read

02/22/2018, 10:24 PM	#169
cwschoon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,318	Has anyone ever had an Angler take frozen food? I have not and tho I would like to get one, I will not if the general consensus is no. I will not feed a saltwater fish freshwater fish. Thanks.