ok whats the deal with rios

Scoobaman17 · 02/09/2006, 06:07 PM

I just heard from a very experienced reefer that rios tend to expire faster and leak chemicals into the tank, I have always used rios and have had no problem with them. So whats the deal? Do I now need to replace all my rios with something else?

Please any feedback would help out a lot!
~Chase

mmgm · 02/09/2006, 06:29 PM

I would replace any Rios you have immediatly...... If you do a search on RC on Rios you will find many horror stories about these pumps/powerheads......

Yes they do leak.....

Scoobaman17 · 02/09/2006, 06:42 PM

**** ok I'll replace them. I only have about 3 to replace. Same guy told me to go with kini jets to replace my small rios, how's that sound?

mmgm · 02/09/2006, 07:46 PM

Maxi Jets all the way..... Most folks on RC swear on them..... They are also very inexpensive to purchase.....

Try a search on Powerheads to confirm.....

Have fun,,,,,

smleee · 02/09/2006, 08:44 PM

Yep if the RIO's are used for powerheads (extra flow) replace them with MaxiJets.

Funny story ----> The other day I needed to siphon gas out of my car, but alas the height difference wasn't enough to get a good siphon going........I used the old RIO to pump it out (going through the fuel pump access inside the car). After I got done I realized that was THE MOST STUPID THING I could have done!!! I coulda went up in flames! Damn Rios....

ee

Entropy · 02/09/2006, 08:50 PM

I have never had a problem with my Rio's, or my Rio Hyperflow, or my Seios... Guess I am just lucky.

mfinn · 02/09/2006, 09:05 PM

A few years ago the horror stories about the rios freezing up and melting inside tanks and causing all sorts of fish and coral deaths was fairly common, but lately any "new stories are far and few between. Maybe because there are alot of good strong powerheads being made, or maybe they have corrected the problems????
Of the approx. 7-8 rio powerheads I've used, I had two of them stop working and wouldn't start untill you banged it on something hard. As sson as they did that, they were used for mixing salt only.
I use the Seio powerhead and I have never heard anything bad about them.

mfinn · 02/09/2006, 09:09 PM

I just read a thread about a guy getting zapped by his rio 3100, so maybe the legacy continues.

doxyman · 02/09/2006, 10:05 PM

Here's a thread from just a few weeks ago... Rio thread

Zoalander · 02/09/2006, 10:52 PM

The sieo's are oil-less compared to the other rios. The only problem I heard with the sieos are that they sometimes don't restart.

Entropy · 02/09/2006, 11:09 PM

I believe the Hyperflows are also oil-less. Never had a problem with any of mine. Keep in mind though that powerheads are not designed to last forever. They need to be rotated out just like light bulbs and everything else. Granted they should last a long time, but if your tank is full of five year old pumps that have never been cleaned, you are probably living on borrowed time.

JR719 · 02/09/2006, 11:16 PM

I have only 1 Seio and not a problem. I shut it off when feeding and doing water changes and no problems so far. We'll see.....

JR

bigbenji · 02/10/2006, 01:46 AM

The only problems I have with seio's is the weird mounting, and you CAN'T use them with a wavemaker. I didn't know that until after I bought them.

02/09/2006, 06:07 PM	#1
Scoobaman17 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 1,087	ok whats the deal with rios I just heard from a very experienced reefer that rios tend to expire faster and leak chemicals into the tank, I have always used rios and have had no problem with them. So whats the deal? Do I now need to replace all my rios with something else? Please any feedback would help out a lot! ~Chase __________________ "I have not failed. I have just found 10,000 ways that do not work" - Thomas Edison Current Tank Info: 75g reef, 140g reef

02/09/2006, 06:42 PM	#3
Scoobaman17 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 1,087	**** ok I'll replace them. I only have about 3 to replace. Same guy told me to go with kini jets to replace my small rios, how's that sound? __________________ "I have not failed. I have just found 10,000 ways that do not work" - Thomas Edison Current Tank Info: 75g reef, 140g reef

02/09/2006, 08:50 PM	#6
Entropy Texas Reefer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 13,656	I have never had a problem with my Rio's, or my Rio Hyperflow, or my Seios... Guess I am just lucky. __________________ Rich Overton 150G cube FOWLR, 30g sump, ReefKeeperII, 3x Koralia 1400's, QuiteOne 3000, Reef Octopus DNWB150, 4x 30w Par38 LED. Current Tank Info: 36x36x27 150g

02/09/2006, 09:05 PM	#7
mfinn Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Olympia. WA. Posts: 8,648	A few years ago the horror stories about the rios freezing up and melting inside tanks and causing all sorts of fish and coral deaths was fairly common, but lately any "new stories are far and few between. Maybe because there are alot of good strong powerheads being made, or maybe they have corrected the problems???? Of the approx. 7-8 rio powerheads I've used, I had two of them stop working and wouldn't start untill you banged it on something hard. As sson as they did that, they were used for mixing salt only. I use the Seio powerhead and I have never heard anything bad about them. __________________ 240 gallon soft coral tank 50 gallon lps tank

02/09/2006, 09:09 PM	#8
mfinn Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Olympia. WA. Posts: 8,648	I just read a thread about a guy getting zapped by his rio 3100, so maybe the legacy continues. __________________ 240 gallon soft coral tank 50 gallon lps tank

02/09/2006, 06:29 PM	#2
mmgm Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,032	I would replace any Rios you have immediatly...... If you do a search on RC on Rios you will find many horror stories about these pumps/powerheads...... Yes they do leak.....

02/09/2006, 07:46 PM	#4
mmgm Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,032	Maxi Jets all the way..... Most folks on RC swear on them..... They are also very inexpensive to purchase..... Try a search on Powerheads to confirm..... Have fun,,,,,

02/09/2006, 08:44 PM	#5
smleee Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 1,344	Yep if the RIO's are used for powerheads (extra flow) replace them with MaxiJets. Funny story ----> The other day I needed to siphon gas out of my car, but alas the height difference wasn't enough to get a good siphon going........I used the old RIO to pump it out (going through the fuel pump access inside the car). After I got done I realized that was THE MOST STUPID THING I could have done!!! I coulda went up in flames! Damn Rios.... ee

02/09/2006, 10:05 PM	#9
doxyman Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 314	Here's a thread from just a few weeks ago... Rio thread __________________ Rob Current Tank Info: 30g cube (for now) that I like to call "Vader"

02/09/2006, 10:52 PM	#10
Zoalander Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oak Park Illinois Posts: 1,571	The sieo's are oil-less compared to the other rios. The only problem I heard with the sieos are that they sometimes don't restart. __________________ Previously known as Vetter1980 Current Tank Info: 36x36x10 frag tank

02/09/2006, 11:09 PM	#11
Entropy Texas Reefer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 13,656	I believe the Hyperflows are also oil-less. Never had a problem with any of mine. Keep in mind though that powerheads are not designed to last forever. They need to be rotated out just like light bulbs and everything else. Granted they should last a long time, but if your tank is full of five year old pumps that have never been cleaned, you are probably living on borrowed time. __________________ Rich Overton 150G cube FOWLR, 30g sump, ReefKeeperII, 3x Koralia 1400's, QuiteOne 3000, Reef Octopus DNWB150, 4x 30w Par38 LED. Current Tank Info: 36x36x27 150g

02/09/2006, 11:16 PM	#12
JR719 Tang Cop Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: OK Posts: 2,240	I have only 1 Seio and not a problem. I shut it off when feeding and doing water changes and no problems so far. We'll see..... JR __________________ Can't sleep, clowns will eat me. America is the most grandiose experiment the world has seen, but, I am afraid, it is not going to be a success. Sigmund Freud Current Tank Info: 300 reef, Aqua controller, Deltec calcium reactor, Reeflo 250 skimmer, Icecap bla bla bla

02/10/2006, 01:46 AM	#13
bigbenji Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oak Harbor OH Posts: 1,200	The only problems I have with seio's is the weird mounting, and you CAN'T use them with a wavemaker. I didn't know that until after I bought them. __________________ "But Dad, it's shark week!" Ben Current Tank Info: I have tank envy.