can selcon cause a cloudy tank

puffer21 · 04/16/2006, 07:13 AM

I have a 10 gallon QT running with two clowns and i have been feeding cyco-eese and mysis shrimp with selcon. My problem is my tank has become cloudy a little. I know the fish are eating all the food and i also do a water change every day. It seems like it is after i put the food in. Could it be the selcon im using.
thanks for anyhelp puffer21

puffer21 · 04/16/2006, 08:10 AM

anyone

Phyxius · 04/16/2006, 08:17 AM

It could be the Selcon as it mentions it right on the bottle. It states it will temporarily cloud the water for several hours. It also mentions to use less if it doesnt clear up overnight.

Hope it helps.....

puffer21 · 04/16/2006, 08:36 AM

oh ok ya that helps thanks

NCreefwannabe · 04/16/2006, 08:04 PM

I use selcon almost everyday in my 55 gallon, but ive never seen any cloud. I usually soak there food in it, then drop 1-2 drops directly into water column.

Ive seen stopped using it as much, as i think its causing my diatoms to hang around longer lol.

puffer21 · 04/17/2006, 06:15 AM

ok well i do the same 2 drops but it only goes in a 10g tank so i will use less. thanks for the help.

Paul B · 04/17/2006, 06:35 AM

Its probably not the Selcon which you don't need in there. It's the food. A ten gallon tank can process almost no fish waste. The Selcon just adds to the pollution.
Paul

puffer21 · 04/17/2006, 06:56 AM

well i have to feed them so what do i do. there in QT which is why they are in a 10 gallon tank. There are two in there cause i heard that was fine(clowns). Now on with other fish there will only be one in the 10 gallon tank. Also is selcon bad i heard it was good. should i completey stop feeding it to them. even when they go in the main tank.

Paul B · 04/17/2006, 07:08 AM

Selcon is good, you just don't need it in a quarintine tank. It is more for feeding corals and other microorganisims. I feed it to blackworms, gorgonians and new born brine shrimp. You have to feed your clownfish but in that small of a tank you have to get rid of the waste, the tank is too small to process it. You should only feed a little every other day. The cloudyness is bacteria from food, I know you change the water, but there is too much food in there weather the fish eat it or not, they willl eat everything you put in there but fish are different than us. We can only eat so much and we get full, fish will keep eating and if there is food in their intestines, they will eliminate it and eat more. That extra food that just went through your fish for no reason is causing the water to be cloudy, no other reason.
Is there any type of filter in there at all?

puffer21 · 04/17/2006, 07:40 AM

no there is no filter, and thanks i will feed less.

NCreefwannabe · 04/17/2006, 03:38 PM

no filter at all? Thats why... You need an aged sponge filter at least for a qt tank to perform as it should. I would at least try running a hangon filter with carbon to help clear it up. I only use selcon on foods to my clowns because they showed signs of ich, I started using selcon, and its been a month with no signs anymore.

puffer21 · 04/17/2006, 03:42 PM

oh ok. I will get a small filter for it.

04/16/2006, 07:13 AM	#1
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	can selcon cause a cloudy tank I have a 10 gallon QT running with two clowns and i have been feeding cyco-eese and mysis shrimp with selcon. My problem is my tank has become cloudy a little. I know the fish are eating all the food and i also do a water change every day. It seems like it is after i put the food in. Could it be the selcon im using. thanks for anyhelp puffer21 __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)

04/16/2006, 08:10 AM	#2
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	anyone __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)

04/16/2006, 08:17 AM	#3
Phyxius Moving About Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: RTP NC Posts: 2,405	It could be the Selcon as it mentions it right on the bottle. It states it will temporarily cloud the water for several hours. It also mentions to use less if it doesnt clear up overnight. Hope it helps..... __________________ -Mike I never drink water because of the disgusting things that fish do in it. W. C. Fields Current Tank Info: JUST SOLD AND TOOK DOWN ALL 11/10---210g AGA, 80g sump, Tunze Streams. Tunze ATO,RK Elite Controller, RKII,Dart, GEO Calcium& Nielsen Kalk Reactors,GEO media reactor, Kaleini Rock, 3-250 watt 14k EVC , VHO..... 34g Solana and 60g cube

04/16/2006, 08:36 AM	#4
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	oh ok ya that helps thanks __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)

04/17/2006, 06:15 AM	#6
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	ok well i do the same 2 drops but it only goes in a 10g tank so i will use less. thanks for the help. __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)

04/16/2006, 08:04 PM	#5
NCreefwannabe Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 953	I use selcon almost everyday in my 55 gallon, but ive never seen any cloud. I usually soak there food in it, then drop 1-2 drops directly into water column. Ive seen stopped using it as much, as i think its causing my diatoms to hang around longer lol.

04/17/2006, 06:35 AM	#7
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Its probably not the Selcon which you don't need in there. It's the food. A ten gallon tank can process almost no fish waste. The Selcon just adds to the pollution. Paul __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

04/17/2006, 06:56 AM	#8
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	well i have to feed them so what do i do. there in QT which is why they are in a 10 gallon tank. There are two in there cause i heard that was fine(clowns). Now on with other fish there will only be one in the 10 gallon tank. Also is selcon bad i heard it was good. should i completey stop feeding it to them. even when they go in the main tank. __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)

04/17/2006, 07:08 AM	#9
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Selcon is good, you just don't need it in a quarintine tank. It is more for feeding corals and other microorganisims. I feed it to blackworms, gorgonians and new born brine shrimp. You have to feed your clownfish but in that small of a tank you have to get rid of the waste, the tank is too small to process it. You should only feed a little every other day. The cloudyness is bacteria from food, I know you change the water, but there is too much food in there weather the fish eat it or not, they willl eat everything you put in there but fish are different than us. We can only eat so much and we get full, fish will keep eating and if there is food in their intestines, they will eliminate it and eat more. That extra food that just went through your fish for no reason is causing the water to be cloudy, no other reason. Is there any type of filter in there at all? __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

04/17/2006, 07:40 AM	#10
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	no there is no filter, and thanks i will feed less. __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)

04/17/2006, 03:38 PM	#11
NCreefwannabe Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 953	no filter at all? Thats why... You need an aged sponge filter at least for a qt tank to perform as it should. I would at least try running a hangon filter with carbon to help clear it up. I only use selcon on foods to my clowns because they showed signs of ich, I started using selcon, and its been a month with no signs anymore.

04/17/2006, 03:42 PM	#12
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	oh ok. I will get a small filter for it. __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)