Astrea - ARRRGGH!

serpentman · 07/25/2006, 09:19 AM

I just wanted to vent. How in the world the astrea snail survived millions of years of evolution is beyond me. I just put 100 astrea and 100 cerith snails in my tank and have spent the last 2 hours flipping the astrea back over!

I knew this going in but needed a serious bump in my cleaning crew and the astrea's were a great price.

sir_dudeguy · 07/25/2006, 09:30 AM

lol are you serious? most people i've heard talk about astreas say that they'll flip on their back, but they usually can get right after a while...so try not fixing them...just let them try to get back up...if they're flipping over now, they had to be able to right themselves wherever they were before you got them (or else they'd be dead

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jerehmy · 07/25/2006, 09:44 AM

you need to flip them over, they will only fall on their back if they fall from a rock or something pushes them over.

They can't make it back on their foot.

Ive fallen and I can't get up! is what you would hear of they could talk

serpentman · 07/25/2006, 10:04 AM

Its true, they will not right themselves. Seems to me like an evolutionary dead-end. However, they seem to be doing well. Chances are they don't fall often in the wild.

sir_dudeguy · 07/25/2006, 10:26 AM

well, we have the same stuff in our tanks as out in the wild...how come they would fall more in our tanks than the ocean? i'm not sayin you guys are wrong or anything, i'm just wondering for myself how they dont die off...if they're this clumsy in aquariums, surely they are in the ocean?

coker98 · 07/25/2006, 10:30 AM

these snails come from an all rock environment and usually if they fell in the wild they fell on some pile or in between rocks. they stay on the rocks or the glass for the most part because this is where home is for them. so if they fall in the sand help them out or they will get eaten by a hermit crab.

MDboyz · 07/25/2006, 10:32 AM

One diff I can see is that most of my Atrea snails fall off from the glass not those are on the rocks.

sir_dudeguy · 07/25/2006, 10:34 AM

ya, figured it was something about the sand. how come some snails can move easier on sand than others? like my nassarius are freakin FAST on the sand lol...my ceriths however are slow..well, they're slow on any surface, so i'm guessing that could be just how they are..

wds21921 · 07/25/2006, 07:36 PM

Also remember there is current flow under the ocean that is somewhat rhythmic and sometimes strong. In our tanks it's more of a constant flow and not always as strong either.

That's a good and comical question too

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One of the best for uprighting themselves however are ceriths. They seemed to have realized(?) to grow an elongated foot rather than a more circular one.

Dubbin1 · 07/25/2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by sir_dudeguy
lol are you serious? most people i've heard talk about astreas say that they'll flip on their back

I think you must be hearing things. Astreas can not flip back over on there own.

07/25/2006, 09:19 AM	#1
serpentman part time superhero Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Deep in the Heart of the Snowbelt (NE OHIO) Posts: 5,698	Astrea - ARRRGGH! I just wanted to vent. How in the world the astrea snail survived millions of years of evolution is beyond me. I just put 100 astrea and 100 cerith snails in my tank and have spent the last 2 hours flipping the astrea back over! I knew this going in but needed a serious bump in my cleaning crew and the astrea's were a great price.

07/25/2006, 09:30 AM	#2
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	lol are you serious? most people i've heard talk about astreas say that they'll flip on their back, but they usually can get right after a while...so try not fixing them...just let them try to get back up...if they're flipping over now, they had to be able to right themselves wherever they were before you got them (or else they'd be dead ) __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

07/25/2006, 09:44 AM	#3
jerehmy Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: san diego Posts: 511	you need to flip them over, they will only fall on their back if they fall from a rock or something pushes them over. They can't make it back on their foot. Ive fallen and I can't get up! is what you would hear of they could talk __________________ Fish are the best medecine for body and mind Current Tank Info: 55g, 40g, 29gx2, 60g, 10g African Cichlids (Breeders) 40g SW Reef with a 20g sump/refugium 75lbs prime LR Mag 9.5 SCWD and Remora skimmer, 2x96w PC's

07/25/2006, 10:04 AM	#4
serpentman part time superhero Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Deep in the Heart of the Snowbelt (NE OHIO) Posts: 5,698	Its true, they will not right themselves. Seems to me like an evolutionary dead-end. However, they seem to be doing well. Chances are they don't fall often in the wild. __________________ BS in Marine Bio ('96), First SW tank in 1992. Current Tank(s) 300g SPS with 90g frag tank and 40 anemone tank - decommissioned 46g LPS/Softy Cube 300g FOWLR under construction - decommissioned

07/25/2006, 10:26 AM	#5
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	well, we have the same stuff in our tanks as out in the wild...how come they would fall more in our tanks than the ocean? i'm not sayin you guys are wrong or anything, i'm just wondering for myself how they dont die off...if they're this clumsy in aquariums, surely they are in the ocean? __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

07/25/2006, 10:30 AM	#6
coker98 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 594	these snails come from an all rock environment and usually if they fell in the wild they fell on some pile or in between rocks. they stay on the rocks or the glass for the most part because this is where home is for them. so if they fall in the sand help them out or they will get eaten by a hermit crab.

07/25/2006, 10:32 AM	#7
MDboyz Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 662	One diff I can see is that most of my Atrea snails fall off from the glass not those are on the rocks.

07/25/2006, 10:34 AM	#8
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	ya, figured it was something about the sand. how come some snails can move easier on sand than others? like my nassarius are freakin FAST on the sand lol...my ceriths however are slow..well, they're slow on any surface, so i'm guessing that could be just how they are.. __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

07/25/2006, 07:36 PM	#9
wds21921 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Elkton, MD Posts: 1,442	Also remember there is current flow under the ocean that is somewhat rhythmic and sometimes strong. In our tanks it's more of a constant flow and not always as strong either. That's a good and comical question too . One of the best for uprighting themselves however are ceriths. They seemed to have realized(?) to grow an elongated foot rather than a more circular one.