Are Seios as bad as Rios

xxxbadfishxxx · 11/20/2006, 05:48 PM

We all know Rio pumps are notorious for crapping out, and even starting on fire and even frying a tank. We all know that SEIO's have restart problems, but are they as prone to crapping out and starting on fire?

theatrus · 11/20/2006, 05:52 PM

Haven't seen any Seios that have done it yet, or threads about that.

I think the biggest problem with Seios is their god awful suction cups.

xxxbadfishxxx · 11/20/2006, 06:57 PM

yeah, i have a SEIO 600 and want to get two more SEIO 820's for a future upgrade. I think the Asthetics, price and flow cannot be beat, yeah, they have restart problems, but other than that.

If the power fails, and you dont restart it for a while, will it eventually burn out?

It is my understanding that TAAM Makes both SEIO's and RIO's, then how come RIO's are so bad?

king1522 · 11/20/2006, 07:09 PM

I asked a similar question and the answer was that TAAM apparantly had fixed the problems that Rio was having. I own a Seio and am happy with it. I have heard of some having re starting problems, but with mine, so far so good.

Xirxes23 · 11/20/2006, 07:56 PM

Seio's ROCK, Rios do NOT...

Why are acura's 6-10,000 more than hondas? Better product line. You get what you pay for.

SEIO 2600 running over a year without a glitch here... you can use the inbox mounting hardware to hang over back of tank in connection with the suction cups. works like a champ.

Cosmo^Kramer · 11/20/2006, 07:59 PM

I have a Seio 820 and 2 600's in my 65 gallon.I haven't had one problem with them yet.They always start back up with no problems and are silent.I've had the 600's since they first came out and the 820 about 2 months.

woodstock '69 · 11/20/2006, 08:26 PM

I have two Seio 820's with the magnetic mounts. These are my first intro to powerheads. At first I didn't like them. They seemed to be well designed and constructed but I had some starting problems.

After a short learning process (I had to learn their idiosyncrasies) and they have been USDA Prime since then. And the have started back up no prob either.

To hedge my bet however, I bought a thrid 820 just in case I need one in a pinch.

Michael

brianbigoats · 11/20/2006, 08:30 PM

mine have been running for a year no issues only cleaned them once

popimp06 · 11/21/2006, 02:20 AM

i hope my rio dont crap out

theatrus · 11/21/2006, 02:53 AM

FWIW, I decided to replace my Seio with a Tunze Nano-stream, based on aesthetics and size (not on cost

).

woodstock '69 · 11/24/2006, 08:37 PM

theatrus - How cool is that. I want to do the same thing. Not sure when - everything is brand new...... but they seem like a much better machine. Even though the Seio 820's are absoultely fine for what they do and i'm not so sure the tank could tell the difference.

Michael

evilsike · 11/24/2006, 09:28 PM

2 seio 620 here and been good to me for over a year now. They had a 50/50 chance starting when I first got it but maybe the ones I have had "break-in" process. since then, I have zero problem restarting them. cleaned one of them 2 weeks ago. too lazy to clean the other.

ct_vol · 11/24/2006, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theatrus
FWIW, I decided to replace my Seio with a Tunze Nano-stream, based on aesthetics and size (not on cost ).

So what do you think of the Nano-streams then??? I've been considering the same move... I love my Seio 820's and 1500's, but I everyone rave's over the Tunze's... And I can't say I've compared them to Tunze's yet... I suppose ignorance is bliss...

ACBlinky · 11/24/2006, 10:07 PM

I love my Seios (820 & 1500). With pumps this heavy there was no way I was going to rely on suction cups, so I ordered two magnet mounts and they work beautifully. I've never had restart problems, noise, or any other issue with these powerheads and highly recommend them.

Watch Yo Wrasse · 11/24/2006, 10:53 PM

2 820's and 2 1500's running for over a year. No problems ever.

drummereef · 11/24/2006, 11:03 PM

Now that the Tunze nanostreams are out, why would anyone want to get a Seio anymore.

818 · 11/25/2006, 01:42 AM

2-2600's....silent.cheap.

michaeldaly · 11/25/2006, 05:25 AM

I have seio's I find them great, I use the plastic bracket to mount them.
For the price of one tunze you could buy about 5 seio's so even if the dont last quite as long they are a real good deal.

11/20/2006, 05:48 PM	#1
xxxbadfishxxx Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 1,585	Are Seios as bad as Rios We all know Rio pumps are notorious for crapping out, and even starting on fire and even frying a tank. We all know that SEIO's have restart problems, but are they as prone to crapping out and starting on fire?

11/20/2006, 05:52 PM	#2
theatrus 100-mile-commuter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: almost nevada Posts: 4,721	Haven't seen any Seios that have done it yet, or threads about that. I think the biggest problem with Seios is their god awful suction cups. __________________ Custom electronics purveyor. blueAcro.com Current Tank Info: 90g SPS+mixed reef (10 yrs): LEDBrick LEDs, 40g custom sump, Ca reactor, chiller, Vortech, lots of custom electronics

11/20/2006, 07:09 PM	#4
king1522 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Duncanville, Texas Posts: 643	I asked a similar question and the answer was that TAAM apparantly had fixed the problems that Rio was having. I own a Seio and am happy with it. I have heard of some having re starting problems, but with mine, so far so good. __________________ Don Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The more you roll off, the faster it goes. Current Tank Info: 30 gallon Finnex M in progress.

11/20/2006, 07:59 PM	#6
Cosmo^Kramer Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Westchester,NY Posts: 1,370	I have a Seio 820 and 2 600's in my 65 gallon.I haven't had one problem with them yet.They always start back up with no problems and are silent.I've had the 600's since they first came out and the 820 about 2 months. __________________ If you choke a smurf,what color does he turn? The Police never think it's as funny as you do Current Tank Info: Starting up a Cadlights signature series.

11/21/2006, 02:20 AM	#9
popimp06 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: the hood Posts: 386	i hope my rio dont crap out __________________ what it do Current Tank Info: 75 aga. 80lbs fiji live rock 45lbs live sand 3 t5s.

11/20/2006, 06:57 PM	#3
xxxbadfishxxx Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 1,585	yeah, i have a SEIO 600 and want to get two more SEIO 820's for a future upgrade. I think the Asthetics, price and flow cannot be beat, yeah, they have restart problems, but other than that. If the power fails, and you dont restart it for a while, will it eventually burn out? It is my understanding that TAAM Makes both SEIO's and RIO's, then how come RIO's are so bad?

11/20/2006, 07:56 PM	#5
Xirxes23 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 607	Seio's ROCK, Rios do NOT... Why are acura's 6-10,000 more than hondas? Better product line. You get what you pay for. SEIO 2600 running over a year without a glitch here... you can use the inbox mounting hardware to hang over back of tank in connection with the suction cups. works like a champ.

11/20/2006, 08:26 PM	#7
woodstock '69 Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: central virginia Posts: 368	I have two Seio 820's with the magnetic mounts. These are my first intro to powerheads. At first I didn't like them. They seemed to be well designed and constructed but I had some starting problems. After a short learning process (I had to learn their idiosyncrasies) and they have been USDA Prime since then. And the have started back up no prob either. To hedge my bet however, I bought a thrid 820 just in case I need one in a pinch. Michael

11/20/2006, 08:30 PM	#8
brianbigoats Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lodi, CA Posts: 1,122	mine have been running for a year no issues only cleaned them once

11/21/2006, 02:53 AM	#10
theatrus 100-mile-commuter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: almost nevada Posts: 4,721	FWIW, I decided to replace my Seio with a Tunze Nano-stream, based on aesthetics and size (not on cost ). __________________ Custom electronics purveyor. blueAcro.com Current Tank Info: 90g SPS+mixed reef (10 yrs): LEDBrick LEDs, 40g custom sump, Ca reactor, chiller, Vortech, lots of custom electronics

11/24/2006, 08:37 PM	#11
woodstock '69 Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: central virginia Posts: 368	theatrus - How cool is that. I want to do the same thing. Not sure when - everything is brand new...... but they seem like a much better machine. Even though the Seio 820's are absoultely fine for what they do and i'm not so sure the tank could tell the difference. Michael

11/24/2006, 09:28 PM	#12
evilsike Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 427	2 seio 620 here and been good to me for over a year now. They had a 50/50 chance starting when I first got it but maybe the ones I have had "break-in" process. since then, I have zero problem restarting them. cleaned one of them 2 weeks ago. too lazy to clean the other. __________________ All experts were once a beginner Current Tank Info: 46 Gal bow front, Aqua C 120, 10g sump w/ 6"x10" refuge, 5x39 T5, AC2, 2xmodded mj

11/24/2006, 10:07 PM	#14
ACBlinky Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Peterborough, ON, Canada Posts: 4,954 Blog Entries: 20	I love my Seios (820 & 1500). With pumps this heavy there was no way I was going to rely on suction cups, so I ordered two magnet mounts and they work beautifully. I've never had restart problems, noise, or any other issue with these powerheads and highly recommend them. __________________ "The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears, or the sea." - Isak Dinesen Current Tank Info: 150g mixed reef, 30g sump/refugium, LED lighting, 100lbs LR, coral beauty, flame angel, blue & yellow tangs, gobies, damsels, 6-line wrasse, lawnmower blenny, dottyback, clown pair, rabbitfish, shrimp, crabs, CUC.

11/24/2006, 10:53 PM	#15
Watch Yo Wrasse Moved On Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 68	2 820's and 2 1500's running for over a year. No problems ever.

11/24/2006, 11:03 PM	#16
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	Now that the Tunze nanostreams are out, why would anyone want to get a Seio anymore. __________________ -Brett 180g Marineland Starfire In-Wall 278 gallon system

11/25/2006, 01:42 AM	#17
818 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,759	2-2600's....silent.cheap. __________________ I'll be back.

11/25/2006, 05:25 AM	#18
michaeldaly Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 2,009	I have seio's I find them great, I use the plastic bracket to mount them. For the price of one tunze you could buy about 5 seio's so even if the dont last quite as long they are a real good deal.