ASM mini too small for 65?

hoyta · 03/15/2007, 05:48 AM

Simple as that! I am going to runnning a moderately stocked 65, and might have a deal on an ASM mini.... Is it doable? Thanks alot!-Adam

Jeremy B. · 03/15/2007, 08:20 AM

I would not recommend running an ASM Mini on that size tank. The mini uses a completely different style of impeller and pump, that is no where near as efficient as what the pinwheel impellers are. You would be better off going with a larger Coralife hang-on, Remora, or even a Turboflotor. IF you really want to spend the money check out the Tunze DOC 9005.

sjm817 · 03/15/2007, 08:23 AM

Since he is looking at an ASM mini (lousy skimmer), I assume he has a sump. A ER RS80 promo would fit the bill.

markandkristen · 03/15/2007, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by Jeremy B.
I would not recommend running an ASM Mini on that size tank. The mini uses a completely different style of impeller and pump, that is no where near as efficient as what the pinwheel impellers are. You would be better off going with a larger Coralife hang-on, Remora, or even a Turboflotor. IF you really want to spend the money check out the Tunze DOC 9005.

Agree as well. i have heard that the pumps that come stock with the mini are loud and inefficient. you will not see many of them floating around rc. the coralife superskimmer is probably a descent bang for the buck.

hoyta · 03/15/2007, 09:22 AM

Thanks! I'll skip the mini...
I don't really understand why people think asms are lousy skimmers, beides being overpriced...

joeycadre · 03/15/2007, 09:38 AM

asm are good skimmers except the mini. the mini stinks.

sjm817 · 03/15/2007, 09:44 AM

The mini is a lousy skimmer. Other ASMs are ok smimmers.

Jeremy B. · 03/15/2007, 09:50 AM

Agreed, the ASM's are good skimmers, it's just that the ASM Mini is a dog.

kodyboy · 03/16/2007, 09:29 PM

get a reef octopus nw110 or 150

Scottkelly911 · 03/16/2007, 11:53 PM

from my understanding, the downfall of the ASM Mini-G is the pump, but what if you switch it out for a Sedra 2500? And for your info, the MiniG DOES come with a needlewheel pump, it's just not very good from what I hear. I've got an ASM Mini-G, but haven't plumbed it yet, I hope to so this weekend. But I do plan on changing out the pump for a Sedra 2500. Has anyone done this and after you did it, did it change your opinion of the ASM mini-G?

mg426 · 03/17/2007, 01:32 AM

I run a G3 its a pretty decent skimmer. The Mini does not get to much applause on RC. I think the ER suggestion is a good one. An octopus aint a bad idea either.

joelamb7467 · 03/17/2007, 08:28 AM

I have tried the mini with stock pump, sedra 2500 NW, and GenX 1500 NW. With the sedra, I actually noticed fewer bubbles and worse performance. With the GenX 1500 I had way too many bubbles and had to lower the riser tube all the way. I think it would be good with the 1500 if the neck of the skimmer was an inch or two taller. IMHO, stay away from the mini. If you really want to try it, I will sell you the skimmer with all the pumps mentioned for a steal.

In regards to the ER RS-80 promo, I bought one and it came with a GenX pump. I have had a horrible time with it, and think that I got a POS pump. Havent had time to return it.

Good luck!

unclereefer · 03/17/2007, 10:17 AM

I just got the rs-80 promo and it came with the sedra pump. I wonder if ER would replace it for you.

Naperville Reef · 03/17/2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Jeremy B.
Agreed, the ASM's are good skimmers, it's just that the ASM Mini is a dog.

wow..... i wish someone at PA would have told me that instead of recommending it to me

anyways, i would say that i am pretty happy with mine. yes, the pump is loud but i guess i have just become used to it. that is my only complaint.

i too have thought about changing the pump. jeremy, is there on you can recommend????

03/15/2007, 05:48 AM	#1
hoyta Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Camden, NC Posts: 286	ASM mini too small for 65? Simple as that! I am going to runnning a moderately stocked 65, and might have a deal on an ASM mini.... Is it doable? Thanks alot!-Adam

03/15/2007, 08:23 AM	#3
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	Since he is looking at an ASM mini (lousy skimmer), I assume he has a sump. A ER RS80 promo would fit the bill. __________________ - Scott

03/15/2007, 09:22 AM	#5
hoyta Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Camden, NC Posts: 286	Thanks! I'll skip the mini... I don't really understand why people think asms are lousy skimmers, beides being overpriced... __________________ Go MIAMI!!!!! Current Tank Info: 34 g Solana

03/15/2007, 09:38 AM	#6
joeycadre Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: jackson Posts: 1,371	asm are good skimmers except the mini. the mini stinks. __________________ "it's not the heat, it's the humility" Current Tank Info: 90 gal. sps mostly. bubble master 200. pci cl-300 chiller

03/15/2007, 09:44 AM	#7
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	The mini is a lousy skimmer. Other ASMs are ok smimmers. __________________ - Scott

03/15/2007, 08:20 AM	#2
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	I would not recommend running an ASM Mini on that size tank. The mini uses a completely different style of impeller and pump, that is no where near as efficient as what the pinwheel impellers are. You would be better off going with a larger Coralife hang-on, Remora, or even a Turboflotor. IF you really want to spend the money check out the Tunze DOC 9005.

03/15/2007, 09:50 AM	#8
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	Agreed, the ASM's are good skimmers, it's just that the ASM Mini is a dog.

03/16/2007, 09:29 PM	#9
kodyboy Moved On Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,990	get a reef octopus nw110 or 150

03/16/2007, 11:53 PM	#10
Scottkelly911 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Venice Beach Posts: 426	from my understanding, the downfall of the ASM Mini-G is the pump, but what if you switch it out for a Sedra 2500? And for your info, the MiniG DOES come with a needlewheel pump, it's just not very good from what I hear. I've got an ASM Mini-G, but haven't plumbed it yet, I hope to so this weekend. But I do plan on changing out the pump for a Sedra 2500. Has anyone done this and after you did it, did it change your opinion of the ASM mini-G? __________________ 12 Gallon Nano Cube DX - nano sized gobies, zoos & Shrooms

03/17/2007, 01:32 AM	#11
mg426 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: maryland Posts: 6,923	I run a G3 its a pretty decent skimmer. The Mini does not get to much applause on RC. I think the ER suggestion is a good one. An octopus aint a bad idea either. __________________ I found a way to make a small fortune running a reef tank. Start with a large fortune. Unofficial President of the SEACLONE haters club Current Tank Info: 125 mixed reef 110 lbs LR, 1x250watt XM 20K MH 2x175watt XM 20K MH on Magetics 2X96 watt actinic PC, 220 watt VHO actinic, 30 gallon refugium, closed loop system powered by Sequence Dart MSX 200 skimmer 38 gallon sump, Oceansmotions squirt

03/17/2007, 08:28 AM	#12
joelamb7467 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 61	I have tried the mini with stock pump, sedra 2500 NW, and GenX 1500 NW. With the sedra, I actually noticed fewer bubbles and worse performance. With the GenX 1500 I had way too many bubbles and had to lower the riser tube all the way. I think it would be good with the 1500 if the neck of the skimmer was an inch or two taller. IMHO, stay away from the mini. If you really want to try it, I will sell you the skimmer with all the pumps mentioned for a steal. In regards to the ER RS-80 promo, I bought one and it came with a GenX pump. I have had a horrible time with it, and think that I got a POS pump. Havent had time to return it. Good luck!

03/17/2007, 10:17 AM	#13
unclereefer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 302	I just got the rs-80 promo and it came with the sedra pump. I wonder if ER would replace it for you.