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[smatter]

I'm going to say yes. Increasing the photo period by 4 hours is significant. I've only had my A360WE for a few weeks and have found that regardless of numbers or appearance, the light it puts out is powerful. Things in my tank retreated from the light even at lower intensities. I'm keeping the color at 30% and intensity below 60%.

[madweazl]

Originally Posted by jiminy_crime

Ok needing help.

Been wondering why my bubble tips (both Sherman red and rainbow tip anemone) have turned brown over the last year under my Kessil 360s.

Everything I have read about that suggests lighting isn't intense enough. I am currently at 70% intensity with my 360s and they sit 10" off the water line and have a 20" depth to penetrate. The anemones sit near the middle/bottom of the tank at about 14" from the water line.

My question is this:
•Does the UV in the KESSILs cause this?
•Should I turn up the intensity? Most of what I have read says anemones turn brown due to poor lighting.

Just looking for what could have caused this. The anemones have really grown quite large but I have read where many people say that their anemones retain their color under good lighting.

Thoughts?

Think I already covered some of this but my lights are only 5" above the waterline and my acro is 8" below the surface. At 40% intensity, there is just over 100 PAR at that location. I'd be willing to bet your PAR is less than half that if it's at the bottom of the tank. I do run a 12 hour photo period but they're on a parabola so they're only at max settings for a short period of time (rolls off to 10% on both the color and intensity on the front and back end with the peak at 4pm which is around the time I get home from work).

I've experienced no color shift in any of my corals but I don't have an anemone (other than green mushrooms that will live under just about anything).

[welsher7]

So I wasn't paying attention when I was buying my 3 A360we for my 125g and I ended up with 2 tuna suns and a tuna blue (I bought used so I can't return). I'm not sure which ones to keep and which to sell. Does anyone run the tuna sun on their tanks? I do plan on supplementing with 4 T5s if that makes a difference.

I feel like suck an idiot.......


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[Jewilson83]

Originally Posted by welsher7

So I wasn't paying attention when I was buying my 3 A360we for my 125g and I ended up with 2 tuna suns and a tuna blue (I bought used so I can't return). I'm not sure which ones to keep and which to sell. Does anyone run the tuna sun on their tanks? I do plan on supplementing with 4 T5s if that makes a difference.

I feel like suck an idiot.......


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We all have done things like that. Paying for something we don't need or are going to use. I'd ditch them and take the loss. Sell them cheaper if it takes a while to get rid of them. They are for freshwater with 9000k max. It's not even 10k in which some "White" Metal halides are. If you have a refugium it's really grow some chaeto etc. but I would get rid of them.

[Reeferparty]

How long is everyone ramping up/down and running their lights at peak? Let's see your schedules!


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[minus9]

12hr cycle, 3hr ramp up, 6hr peak, then 3hr ramp down. 2 1/2yrs with this schedule.

[madweazl]

Originally Posted by Reeferparty

How long is everyone ramping up/down and running their lights at peak? Let's see your schedules!

12 hour photo period that ramps six hours on both sides (no pause at peak).

[WLachnit]

12.5 h cycle with 2h ramp up and 2h ramp down. I have a mixed reef with SPS including Acros in the top third. Everything doing well, great color, and pretty good growth. I do supplement with T5.

[madweazl]

Forgot to mention my color is on two hour ramps to a max of 65%.

[cali9dub]

Here is my graph. Getting good growth and color!!
Grey is intensity and pink is color

[Reefcubes]

Thanks for sharing guys! I have the kessils for the nice view and effects but now I am thinking to keep them as main "head" lights. They are so beautifull.

Nice weekend!

[bryanr]

I have 4 Kessil 360we's on my 240 (8') FOWLR because I like the shimmer, but I'm getting a little shading on the edges and between lights. I was wondering if the A80's would help with shading as it's a FOWLR I don't want to get anymore 360's. I did have some E5's I was going to use, but they don't run in my retrofit so I took it out.

[smatter]

Originally Posted by bryanr

I have 4 Kessil 360we's on my 240 (8') FOWLR because I like the shimmer, but I'm getting a little shading on the edges and between lights. I was wondering if the A80's would help with shading as it's a FOWLR I don't want to get anymore 360's. I did have some E5's I was going to use, but they don't run in my retrofit so I took it out.

How far off the water are they mounted? Can they be raised?

[bryanr]

Originally Posted by smatter

How far off the water are they mounted? Can they be raised?

That's part of the problem the canopy is only about a foot tall so add the kessils and about 5-6" off the water

[Thor2j]

Originally Posted by bryanr

I have 4 Kessil 360we's on my 240 (8') FOWLR because I like the shimmer, but I'm getting a little shading on the edges and between lights. I was wondering if the A80's would help with shading as it's a FOWLR I don't want to get anymore 360's. I did have some E5's I was going to use, but they don't run in my retrofit so I took it out.

I had 4 on 5 ft tank and was about right. 4 on an 8' tank is going to have a lot of shadows.

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[vhuang168]

If you can mount them directly to the canopy (not hanging), use a swivel mount and angle the 2 outside ones towards the inside. You can also move the 2 outside ones further out. If you can about 30deg, it will help cover the center better. Moving them outside will help cover the edges if you angle them.


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[Ssteve]

I have two 360we's for sale. $500 shipped for two or $275ea. 8months old and never run over 60%

[welsher7]

I'm setting up a 125g for lighting in using an old 48" 4 bulb t5 tek fixture and I want to run 3 three Kessil with it. Do you think I could get a away with running three a160we?


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[Sandybw1]

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[Ssteve]

Originally Posted by welsher7

I'm setting up a 125g for lighting in using an old 48" 4 bulb t5 tek fixture and I want to run 3 three Kessil with it. Do you think I could get a away with running three a160we?


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If your not looking to get anything out of the light except aesthetics and some supplementation on the stuff up high, then you would be fine. that's actually what I am doing except two 160's with a couple photon v2's. The problem with the 160 is that it either needs to be hung lower to get penetration which causes a more focused light and more shadows, or higher up and it doesn't penetrate that good.

[welsher7]

I'm planning on running a mixed reef, with a few sps in the top half to top third of the tank. Almost all of the rock is directly under the tek fixture.

Just thought I could save a few bucks by buying 160s rather than the 360s

[Sandybw1]

Originally Posted by welsher7

I'm planning on running a mixed reef, with a few sps in the top half to top third of the tank. Almost all of the rock is directly under the tek fixture.

Just thought I could save a few bucks by buying 160s rather than the 360s

What size tank?

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[welsher7]

125g, 72x18x21


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[smatter]

Originally Posted by welsher7

125g, 72x18x21


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Looks like if you talk to Ssteve you can save a bunch of money and still go with 360s.

[makers marc]

Is there a simple modification I can do to the AP700 arm mount, so that I can tilt the lights slightly toward the back of the tank?

There's a bad glare from my sofa vantage point.