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snorvich · 01/05/2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Michelle S

Thanks! Tank is supposed to come tomorrow. I'll scout heaters and skimmers today.

Michelle, I would also strongly recommend a ranco controller for the heater. Most heaters break in the on position and this controller (or equivalent) will allow you to sleep better.

Toddrtrex · 01/05/2011, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

Michelle, I would also strongly recommend a ranco controller for the heater. Most heaters break in the on position and this controller (or equivalent) will allow you to sleep better.

I have to agree completely.

All of my heaters are controlled by my ReefKeepers.

jonewald · 01/05/2011, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddrtrex

What type of clowns?

Occellaris clowns

TheFishMan65 · 01/05/2011, 06:40 PM

Can I get a one spot fox face if I have a 75 gallon tank?

saphhre · 01/05/2011, 08:07 PM

I have just set up my 55 gallon aquarium, it has a hob filter, there is no sub, or refuge right now. I would like to know what fish I could put in this. I want colorfull and a peaceful fish. I am currently thinking that I will need to start a refuge shortly for my mandarin that I want but I plan on getting him in a year.
So what do you think of
2 Ocellaris clowns
1 Clown Goby Green
1 Firefish
1 Spotted Cardinal Fish
1 Yelow Prawn Goby
1 Green Mandarin (1 year from now)
What other fish could I add to these or what would you substitute, my tank has not cycled yet so I have time to research all that you suggest.

TMF89 · 01/05/2011, 08:42 PM

Hey guys, I'm starting up two tanks, one 20L FOWLR, and one 29g reef.

The 20L has a simple flourescent light, 100 watt hydor heater, and a Aquaclear 30 HOB power filter. I could add a small HOB skimmer, or an additional filter if need be. For stocking I was thinking:
Purple Firefish
Orange-lined Cardinal
Osc. Clown
Some kind of Goby

For the 29 Reef, I have a RemoraC Nano skimmer, 200 watt heater, and haven't decided on a light fixture yet. I REALLY have my heart set on an ORA mandarin, and yes I've heard all the horror stories. I think I'm going to ask my LFS to order one, then feed it in front of me, and take it if it eats.
Besides that:
Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse
Either a Orchid or Indigo Dottyback (can I have both or are they conspecific aggressive?)
Bangai Cardinal
Some sort of goby or other fish

What do you guys think?

snorvich · 01/05/2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by saphhre

I have just set up my 55 gallon aquarium, it has a hob filter, there is no sub, or refuge right now. I would like to know what fish I could put in this. I want colorfull and a peaceful fish. I am currently thinking that I will need to start a refuge shortly for my mandarin that I want but I plan on getting him in a year.
So what do you think of
2 Ocellaris clowns
1 Clown Goby Green
1 Firefish
1 Spotted Cardinal Fish
1 Yelow Prawn Goby
1 Green Mandarin (1 year from now)
What other fish could I add to these or what would you substitute, my tank has not cycled yet so I have time to research all that you suggest.

A clown goby may irritate SPS corals but if you are not planning those it should be fine. If you really want any mandarin, you should consider a refugium for copepod production. All the rest seem fine.

snorvich · 01/05/2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TMF89

Hey guys, I'm starting up two tanks, one 20L FOWLR, and one 29g reef.

The 20L has a simple flourescent light, 100 watt hydor heater, and a Aquaclear 30 HOB power filter. I could add a small HOB skimmer, or an additional filter if need be. For stocking I was thinking:
Purple Firefish
Orange-lined Cardinal
Osc. Clown
Some kind of Goby

For the 29 Reef, I have a RemoraC Nano skimmer, 200 watt heater, and haven't decided on a light fixture yet. I REALLY have my heart set on an ORA mandarin, and yes I've heard all the horror stories. I think I'm going to ask my LFS to order one, then feed it in front of me, and take it if it eats.
Besides that:
Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse
Either a Orchid or Indigo Dottyback (can I have both or are they conspecific aggressive?)
Bangai Cardinal
Some sort of goby or other fish

What do you guys think?

For the 20L, I would not add the clownfish but the rest should be fine.

For the 29 gallon tank, keeping any mandarin and specifically an ORA mandarin will be very difficult. You will have to spot feed it multiple times per day. I would recommend against it. Dottybacks are relatively aggressive so having two won't work. If you want to have a flasher wrasse, the orchid dottyback may work, the indigo will NOT work. If you are planning sand, a goby/prawn combination is fun.

Mmiller2001 · 01/05/2011, 10:21 PM

I am setting up a 120 gallon tank with a pm30 sump with refugium, protein skimmer, t5 six bulb light. I plan to have a mix of LPS and SPS coral. This is what I was thinking as far as fish stocking:

Pair ocellaris clowns
Mystery wrasse
3 Bartlett anthias (1 male and 2 female)
Magnificent foxface
Hippo tang
Yellow tang
Yellow eye kole tang
Sailfin tang

Thoughts?

Toddrtrex · 01/05/2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mmiller2001

I am setting up a 120 gallon tank with a pm30 sump with refugium, protein skimmer, t5 six bulb light. I plan to have a mix of LPS and SPS coral. This is what I was thinking as far as fish stocking:

Pair ocellaris clowns
Mystery wrasse
3 Bartlett anthias (1 male and 2 female)
Magnificent foxface
Hippo tang
Yellow tang
Yellow eye kole tang
Sailfin tang

Thoughts?

Mystery wrasses have a habit of eating shrimp -- so keep that in mind.

IMO, the hippo and sailfin with both get too big for that tank.

TMF89 · 01/05/2011, 11:59 PM

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For the 20L, I would not add the clownfish but the rest should be fine.

For the 29 gallon tank, keeping any mandarin and specifically an ORA mandarin will be very difficult. You will have to spot feed it multiple times per day. I would recommend against it. Dottybacks are relatively aggressive so having two won't work. If you want to have a flasher wrasse, the orchid dottyback may work, the indigo will NOT work. If you are planning sand, a goby/prawn combination is fun.

Why would the indigo not work, and the orchid possibly work? Lets say I replace the mandarin with a clown, would that work?

snorvich · 01/06/2011, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TMF89

Why would the indigo not work, and the orchid possibly work? Lets say I replace the mandarin with a clown, would that work?

Dottybacks are aggressive. The Orchid is the least aggressive. Dottybacks are normally not compatible with flasher wrasses because of their aggressive nature.

Mmiller2001 · 01/06/2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddrtrex

Mystery wrasses have a habit of eating shrimp -- so keep that in mind.

IMO, the hippo and sailfin with both get too big for that tank.

What wrasse(s) would you recommend that don't have a habit of eating shrimp?

Dog Hair · 01/06/2011, 08:23 AM

I was considering putting 4-6 Limbaughi Chromis in my tank which will eventually be a full reef. Local fish sellers are all for it. I spoke with someone who should know what he is talking about, and sounds like he does, about it and he pointed out that the Limbaughi are a little deeper water fish and would have a problem with the light on full reef. I have facility to introduce brighter light slowly and big tank has enough caves for them to hide from the Halides if neccessary. Any thoughts? Tank is 120 show with 4 T 5's and two metal Halides (currently not used as no coral's present) within foot of water surface with more than enough water flow and sump capacity. If light bulb change on the T 5's would make a difference short term I would change them .

snorvich · 01/06/2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mmiller2001

What wrasse(s) would you recommend that don't have a habit of eating shrimp?

Fairy and flasher wrasses are interesting and do not eat shrimp. Flasher wrasses do well as singles, pairs, trio (MFF)

snorvich · 01/06/2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dog Hair

I was considering putting 4-6 Limbaughi Chromis in my tank which will eventually be a full reef. Local fish sellers are all for it. I spoke with someone who should know what he is talking about, and sounds like he does, about it and he pointed out that the Limbaughi are a little deeper water fish and would have a problem with the light on full reef. I have facility to introduce brighter light slowly and big tank has enough caves for them to hide from the Halides if neccessary. Any thoughts? Tank is 120 show with 4 T 5's and two metal Halides (currently not used as no coral's present) within foot of water surface with more than enough water flow and sump capacity. If light bulb change on the T 5's would make a difference short term I would change them .

I personally like the appearance of Limbaughi Chromis which can be found in schools throughout the Eastern Central Pacific from Southern California through Mexico. These are wonderful reef fish that resemble the blue damsel when mature, but are much less aggressive. As juveniles, these chromis are blue with a yellow tail. As they mature, they lose the yellow coloration within the tail, and their overall blue coloration darkens to purple.

It is a very hardy fish found in a variety of aquariums. It is commonly kept long term, in small schools, and used by beginners to learn the hobby. It may also be included in larger schools in show tanks. It is a peaceful fish, and adds a dramatic effect to the tank. The Limbaughi Chromis will live from 8-15 years in an aquarium in water of good quality.

The diet should be varied and consist of meaty items, herbivore flakes, and frozen preparations. Using vitamin-enriched foods may help to preserve the bright color. Soak in Selcon, Vitality, or equivalent.

So, all in all I think you would like this fish. If you have caves and overhangs, I would not be overly concerned with lighting but if you do have the ability to increase your lighting progressively, it cannot hurt.

~JSG~ · 01/06/2011, 02:00 PM

Hello, I would like to add a sponge to my tank, I don't think they are difficult to keep, but just to be sure what do you folks think?

snorvich · 01/06/2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ~JSG~

Hello, I would like to add a sponge to my tank, I don't think they are difficult to keep, but just to be sure what do you folks think?

This thread is really about fish. That being said, I know very little about sponges; i have volunteers that are growing in my tanks but I have never intentionally added one. In one of my tanks, I have angelfish that would eat it if it were available. I think that Sk8r has sponges?

4tangs · 01/06/2011, 09:42 PM

220 gallons with 30 gallon fuge and 60 gallon sump. Tank is 72 wide 24 deep and 30 tall. Octopus skimmer with two sicce psk2500's. 300 lbs live rock 4" sand bed. So far I have a kole tang and a pair of black clowns. 8 bartlet anthias have been ordered and should be here next week. Then I plan these in the following order.... Blonde Nasso, powder brown, desjardini sailfin.... Also was thinking a pair of flasher wrasses and possibly a goby of some sort. I also have 5 nassarius, 10 black turbos, 5 cerith, and 5 nerith snails. Also have 10 small hermit crabs. Tank has been setup for 3 months and all parameters read great for the water. At what rate should I add more clean up crew and what kind? Also plan on some shrimp, How many and can I mix types? Any problems with what I have planned? Besides triggers (which I am not wanting) what else is reef safe that might be a nice addition? Maybe a magnificent fox face?

TMF89 · 01/06/2011, 11:03 PM

Setting up a 29g reef that's fish-centered however. So far I have:

Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse

Bangai Cardinal

Black Cap Basslet

Osc. Clown

Would those four plus some kind of Goby work? Thanks.

burntchrisp · 01/07/2011, 01:11 PM

My friend got a 75 bowfront about 2 months ago had been setup for 9 months as FOWLR. Is reef ready with 30 sump bio balls and a current skimmer. It has 80lb lr and 2" sand. It came with coral beauty, large maroon clown, yellow tang, toby puffer, velvet and convect damsel. He bought 3 anemones, mushrooms, zoas, leather coral and some other I'm sure. Now he has a snowflake eel. I went by and the anemones keep m

Toddrtrex · 01/07/2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by burntchrisp

My friend got a 75 bowfront about 2 months ago had been setup for 9 months as FOWLR. Is reef ready with 30 sump bio balls and a current skimmer. It has 80lb lr and 2" sand. It came with coral beauty, large maroon clown, yellow tang, toby puffer, velvet and convect damsel. He bought 3 anemones, mushrooms, zoas, leather coral and some other I'm sure. Now he has a snowflake eel. I went by and the anemones keep m

Looks like your post got cut off.

Do you know what species of anemones they are?
What lights?
What are the parameters? (( with numbers ))

burntchrisp · 01/07/2011, 01:20 PM

Sry. I went by to check out the eel and he was swimming around and brushed up against an anemone then took off. My question is the eel ok in a tank with anemones and is that to many fish for a 75?

Toddrtrex · 01/07/2011, 01:21 PM

My questions are still the same -- from above,

Do you know what species of anemones they are?
What lights?
What are the parameters? (( with numbers ))

burntchrisp · 01/07/2011, 01:33 PM

He didn't take my advise he hasn't tested water. When I went by I tested ph 8 and sg1.024 has pc lights 2 96w I also did 5 gal water change all I could spare right then. Dint know for sure on the anemones one looks like a bleached bubble tip with purple on tips I'm not sure what they are. Oh and temp was 78. I pretty sure he's headed for disaster but hope he's wises up soon. Thanks

01/05/2011, 10:21 PM	#2784
Mmiller2001 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 6	Stocking list I am setting up a 120 gallon tank with a pm30 sump with refugium, protein skimmer, t5 six bulb light. I plan to have a mix of LPS and SPS coral. This is what I was thinking as far as fish stocking: Pair ocellaris clowns Mystery wrasse 3 Bartlett anthias (1 male and 2 female) Magnificent foxface Hippo tang Yellow tang Yellow eye kole tang Sailfin tang Thoughts?

01/06/2011, 08:23 AM	#2789
Dog Hair Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Beaumont, Texas Posts: 8	Limbaughi Chromis I was considering putting 4-6 Limbaughi Chromis in my tank which will eventually be a full reef. Local fish sellers are all for it. I spoke with someone who should know what he is talking about, and sounds like he does, about it and he pointed out that the Limbaughi are a little deeper water fish and would have a problem with the light on full reef. I have facility to introduce brighter light slowly and big tank has enough caves for them to hide from the Halides if neccessary. Any thoughts? Tank is 120 show with 4 T 5's and two metal Halides (currently not used as no coral's present) within foot of water surface with more than enough water flow and sump capacity. If light bulb change on the T 5's would make a difference short term I would change them . Last edited by Dog Hair; 01/06/2011 at 09:02 AM. Reason: Believed that my tank spec's would be posted from CP

01/06/2011, 02:00 PM	#2792
~JSG~ Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Texas Posts: 156	Hello, I would like to add a sponge to my tank, I don't think they are difficult to keep, but just to be sure what do you folks think? __________________ Current Tank Info: 200G Oceanic reef ready tank w/ 50gal. Reef ready sump, Reef Dynamics INS300, 72" Coralife pro series system w/ 3 14K metal Halides, 4 moon LEDs, 4 Antinic 96W cfls. 150lbs. LR, 1 Hammer Coral, 1 Zombie eye colony Zoa, 2 Green Chromis, 1 Diamond Goby,1 True Percula 1 Emperor Angel Fish, CUC 75G AGA 2x250W 14K MH, Reef Octopus Skimmer, 20G DIY sump, 4" sand Bed, 150lbs LR, 1 foxface rabbit fish, 1 Green Acro?!

01/06/2011, 09:42 PM	#2794
4tangs Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 89	220 gallons with 30 gallon fuge and 60 gallon sump. Tank is 72 wide 24 deep and 30 tall. Octopus skimmer with two sicce psk2500's. 300 lbs live rock 4" sand bed. So far I have a kole tang and a pair of black clowns. 8 bartlet anthias have been ordered and should be here next week. Then I plan these in the following order.... Blonde Nasso, powder brown, desjardini sailfin.... Also was thinking a pair of flasher wrasses and possibly a goby of some sort. I also have 5 nassarius, 10 black turbos, 5 cerith, and 5 nerith snails. Also have 10 small hermit crabs. Tank has been setup for 3 months and all parameters read great for the water. At what rate should I add more clean up crew and what kind? Also plan on some shrimp, How many and can I mix types? Any problems with what I have planned? Besides triggers (which I am not wanting) what else is reef safe that might be a nice addition? Maybe a magnificent fox face? Last edited by 4tangs; 01/06/2011 at 09:57 PM.

01/07/2011, 01:21 PM	#2799
Toddrtrex Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 23,162	My questions are still the same -- from above, Do you know what species of anemones they are? What lights? What are the parameters? (( with numbers )) __________________ Click my name and then "visit toddrtrex's homepage" for tank pictures Current Tank Info: 210g reef and 65g reef

01/05/2011, 06:40 PM	#2779
TheFishMan65 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,618	Can I get a one spot fox face if I have a 75 gallon tank?

01/05/2011, 08:07 PM	#2780
saphhre Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 10	I have just set up my 55 gallon aquarium, it has a hob filter, there is no sub, or refuge right now. I would like to know what fish I could put in this. I want colorfull and a peaceful fish. I am currently thinking that I will need to start a refuge shortly for my mandarin that I want but I plan on getting him in a year. So what do you think of 2 Ocellaris clowns 1 Clown Goby Green 1 Firefish 1 Spotted Cardinal Fish 1 Yelow Prawn Goby 1 Green Mandarin (1 year from now) What other fish could I add to these or what would you substitute, my tank has not cycled yet so I have time to research all that you suggest.

01/05/2011, 08:42 PM	#2781
TMF89 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 238	Hey guys, I'm starting up two tanks, one 20L FOWLR, and one 29g reef. The 20L has a simple flourescent light, 100 watt hydor heater, and a Aquaclear 30 HOB power filter. I could add a small HOB skimmer, or an additional filter if need be. For stocking I was thinking: Purple Firefish Orange-lined Cardinal Osc. Clown Some kind of Goby For the 29 Reef, I have a RemoraC Nano skimmer, 200 watt heater, and haven't decided on a light fixture yet. I REALLY have my heart set on an ORA mandarin, and yes I've heard all the horror stories. I think I'm going to ask my LFS to order one, then feed it in front of me, and take it if it eats. Besides that: Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse Either a Orchid or Indigo Dottyback (can I have both or are they conspecific aggressive?) Bangai Cardinal Some sort of goby or other fish What do you guys think?

01/06/2011, 11:03 PM	#2795
TMF89 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 238	Setting up a 29g reef that's fish-centered however. So far I have: Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse Bangai Cardinal Black Cap Basslet Osc. Clown Would those four plus some kind of Goby work? Thanks.

01/07/2011, 01:11 PM	#2796
burntchrisp Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Edmond Posts: 38	My friend got a 75 bowfront about 2 months ago had been setup for 9 months as FOWLR. Is reef ready with 30 sump bio balls and a current skimmer. It has 80lb lr and 2" sand. It came with coral beauty, large maroon clown, yellow tang, toby puffer, velvet and convect damsel. He bought 3 anemones, mushrooms, zoas, leather coral and some other I'm sure. Now he has a snowflake eel. I went by and the anemones keep m

01/07/2011, 01:20 PM	#2798
burntchrisp Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Edmond Posts: 38	Sry. I went by to check out the eel and he was swimming around and brushed up against an anemone then took off. My question is the eel ok in a tank with anemones and is that to many fish for a 75?

01/07/2011, 01:33 PM	#2800
burntchrisp Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Edmond Posts: 38	He didn't take my advise he hasn't tested water. When I went by I tested ph 8 and sg1.024 has pc lights 2 96w I also did 5 gal water change all I could spare right then. Dint know for sure on the anemones one looks like a bleached bubble tip with purple on tips I'm not sure what they are. Oh and temp was 78. I pretty sure he's headed for disaster but hope he's wises up soon. Thanks