Kessil Club - Page 14

itzonlithai · 03/09/2015, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by K916

Will the release of the Aqua Illumination Prime LED fixture spell doom for Kessil?

I'm holding back buying a second W360 and controller

Isn't the prime meant for smaller tanks? It'll be in the same bracket as the A160WE, but I don't think people that are looking at the A360 will consider the AI Prime. It does look like a nice light though and at a nice price point to boot.

RedStangGA · 03/10/2015, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Newbie Aquarist

I started out at 40% intensity until my max which was 70%.

Definitely this. I started at ~70% and nearly fried all of my SPS. Backed it down to 40% and things are looking much better.

jsrnec · 03/10/2015, 07:23 AM

I have 3 A360W's over my 300 FOWLR I am in the process of setting up

Radioheadx14 · 03/10/2015, 07:54 AM

I am replacing my a150w with 2 160s on my 18g cadlights in hope to give some SPS more light and reduce a single source of light/shadowing. I didn't go with the 360 because I wanted to light the tank from 2 angles instead of a single point. Its a bit expensive, but I'm hopeful it will keep all sides of the SPS branches colorful in my small tank.

Newbie Aquarist · 03/10/2015, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Radioheadx14

I am replacing my a150w with 2 160s on my 18g cadlights in hope to give some SPS more light and reduce a single source of light/shadowing. I didn't go with the 360 because I wanted to light the tank from 2 angles instead of a single point. Its a bit expensive, but I'm hopeful it will keep all sides of the SPS branches colorful in my small tank.

You have a pic of your tank?

Radioheadx14 · 03/10/2015, 09:17 AM

Not with the new kessils yet. I can post a picture of the single a150w later tonight if you'd like.

joesfiddy · 03/10/2015, 09:52 AM

I'm gonna try 3x a360we and 2x ocean blue a150w on a 180

Swizzle81 · 03/10/2015, 11:09 AM

I am possibly looking at the A360WE for my 5' 92G (59X20X22). Question is do I need 2 or is 3 overkill? Or just wait for the AP700 whenever they decide to release it, thanks.

Newbie Aquarist · 03/10/2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Swizzle81

I am possibly looking at the A360WE for my 5' 92G (59X20X22). Question is do I need 2 or is 3 overkill? Or just wait for the AP700 whenever they decide to release it, thanks.

Three would work fine depending on your coral stocking for like SPS. If other than that then two would be sufficient.

RedStangGA · 03/10/2015, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Newbie Aquarist

Three would work fine depending on your coral stocking for like SPS. If other than that then two would be sufficient.

Also depends on aquascape. If you go with 2 fairly central islands you could put the 2 Kessil over them and likely be good. Not much different at that point than simulating one over a 24" cube. Your edges will be dim for sure though. 3 would be safer.

Swizzle81 · 03/10/2015, 12:30 PM

Ok thanks for the input. Yea I forgot to mention I plan on keeping softies and LPS initially.

bper · 03/10/2015, 05:03 PM

For those with the new A160WE running with an Apex, how dim can you get them? I have 2 A360WE's and as you guys probably know, it cuts off at around 13% which is still pretty bright. I have a supplemental DIY LEDs that I'm looking to replace with a pair of A160WE's if it dims considerably less then the 360's.

Newbie Aquarist · 03/10/2015, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bper

For those with the new A160WE running with an Apex, how dim can you get them? I have 2 A360WE's and as you guys probably know, it cuts off at around 13% which is still pretty bright. I have a supplemental DIY LEDs that I'm looking to replace with a pair of A160WE's if it dims considerably less then the 360's.

Mine cut off on color at 5% and intensity at 0%

itzonlithai · 03/10/2015, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bper

For those with the new A160WE running with an Apex, how dim can you get them? I have 2 A360WE's and as you guys probably know, it cuts off at around 13% which is still pretty bright. I have a supplemental DIY LEDs that I'm looking to replace with a pair of A160WE's if it dims considerably less then the 360's.

Wow what're your tank dimensions? You're willing to cut out that much light just to be able to dim all the way down to 0?

bper · 03/10/2015, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Newbie Aquarist

Mine cut off on color at 5% and intensity at 0%

So at that setting, is it pretty dim where you could use it as moonlights?

Newbie Aquarist · 03/10/2015, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bper

So at that setting, is it pretty dim where you could use it as moonlights?

Not even close.

choss · 03/15/2015, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jtgrimes

Awesome thread. I have been searching and no one really post much about kessil etc, so this is great.

I currently run a 12 gallon AIO with a Kessil A360W.

Lighting Schedule:

Color/Intensity

9:00am - 0/5
1:00pm - 40/65
3:00pm - 60/75
5:00pm - 40/65
9:00pm - 0/0

So I see a lot of recommendations to go with a 360 on small cubes (or two 160s) but it seems like on these small tanks everyone is running at say 60%. Would a single 160 accomplish the same thing at say 80 or 90%? Anyone running a single 160 on smaller cubes?

Scorpius · 03/16/2015, 11:21 AM

I run my a360w at 15% max intensity currently over my 18in square cube. If I ran it at 60% intensity the glass on my tank would melt.

Newbie Aquarist · 03/16/2015, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorpius

I run my a360w at 15% max intensity currently over my 18in square cube. If I ran it at 60% intensity the glass on my tank would melt.

itzonlithai · 03/16/2015, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by choss

So I see a lot of recommendations to go with a 360 on small cubes (or two 160s) but it seems like on these small tanks everyone is running at say 60%. Would a single 160 accomplish the same thing at say 80 or 90%? Anyone running a single 160 on smaller cubes?

Most of the time, no. Turning up your intensity is not going to increase coverage.

Newbie Aquarist · 03/16/2015, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by itzonlithai

Most of the time, no. Turning up your intensity is not going to increase coverage.

I agree. Only way to get a wider spread is raising the light higher but you'll lose par.

Snarl · 03/16/2015, 02:38 PM

I would imagine that this has been asked already on this thread but skimmed through a bunch of pages and haven't seen it. Kessil's website says the AP700 is coming soon. Anyone know what soon means? This is the fixture I want to go with as I love kessils technology but I have a hood on my tank I feel that the A360s would not be good for my setup. Soon to me means weeks but to a company it could be 6 months.

Newbie Aquarist · 03/16/2015, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Snarl

I would imagine that this has been asked already on this thread but skimmed through a bunch of pages and haven't seen it. Kessil's website says the AP700 is coming soon. Anyone know what soon means? This is the fixture I want to go with as I love kessils technology but I have a hood on my tank I feel that the A360s would not be good for my setup. Soon to me means weeks but to a company it could be 6 months.

Supposed to be released by summer last time I spoke with the rep.

JWClark · 03/16/2015, 05:50 PM

Been running my kessils for a month or so now and my corals seem to have all responded positively to them. They are all running in a line on my 125--the two 360s in the middle, 1ft off center (2ft between) and a 160 on each end, on center between the tank end and the 360.

My question is this: I seem to have some real shadowing in the front of the rock and the coral specimens (the display side)--especially on the ends. What is the best way to solve this? Was thinking of a true lumen strip across the front but worried it won't be strong enough.

Kessils are mounted w/ goosenecks and 90 degree adaptors about 1ft above the water--and there is a glass top. My other alternative is to run small strips front to back--I'm worried about making shadows if I do this. Also thought about a t-bulb but shadowing could be an issue unless I hung above the kessils--can't seem to find a skinny one bulb fixture.

Thoughts?

JWClark · 03/16/2015, 05:54 PM

On the dimming question--you can program them to dim to 0% intensity but I think they actually stop dimming at around 10% or so and sit there until 0% is reached and they shut off. Because of this I have my two 160s come on a minute before, and go off a minute later, than my 360s. I will probably increase this to 5 minutes or so eventually but have not gotten around to it. I am using the kessil spectral controller.

03/10/2015, 09:52 AM	#332
joesfiddy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Morris IL Posts: 518	I'm gonna try 3x a360we and 2x ocean blue a150w on a 180 __________________ 250 dd, 180 reef tank 100 gal sump, 75 reef tank 30 gallon sump, 40 gal frag tank, 12 gal nano Current Tank Info: 100 gal long reef, 75 gal reef, 40 gal frag tank

03/16/2015, 05:50 PM	#349
JWClark Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: MD Posts: 576	Been running my kessils for a month or so now and my corals seem to have all responded positively to them. They are all running in a line on my 125--the two 360s in the middle, 1ft off center (2ft between) and a 160 on each end, on center between the tank end and the 360. My question is this: I seem to have some real shadowing in the front of the rock and the coral specimens (the display side)--especially on the ends. What is the best way to solve this? Was thinking of a true lumen strip across the front but worried it won't be strong enough. Kessils are mounted w/ goosenecks and 90 degree adaptors about 1ft above the water--and there is a glass top. My other alternative is to run small strips front to back--I'm worried about making shadows if I do this. Also thought about a t-bulb but shadowing could be an issue unless I hung above the kessils--can't seem to find a skinny one bulb fixture. Thoughts? __________________ Back after a 13yr hiatus--much to my wife's dismay. Though she sure loves looking at the tank and feeding the fish! Current Tank Info: Reefer 450 seed tank for the retirement 315gal Reef Savvy build.

03/16/2015, 05:54 PM	#350
JWClark Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: MD Posts: 576	On the dimming question--you can program them to dim to 0% intensity but I think they actually stop dimming at around 10% or so and sit there until 0% is reached and they shut off. Because of this I have my two 160s come on a minute before, and go off a minute later, than my 360s. I will probably increase this to 5 minutes or so eventually but have not gotten around to it. I am using the kessil spectral controller. __________________ Back after a 13yr hiatus--much to my wife's dismay. Though she sure loves looking at the tank and feeding the fish! Current Tank Info: Reefer 450 seed tank for the retirement 315gal Reef Savvy build.

03/10/2015, 07:23 AM	#328
jsrnec Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milton, NH Posts: 39	I have 3 A360W's over my 300 FOWLR I am in the process of setting up

03/10/2015, 07:54 AM	#329
Radioheadx14 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,601	I am replacing my a150w with 2 160s on my 18g cadlights in hope to give some SPS more light and reduce a single source of light/shadowing. I didn't go with the 360 because I wanted to light the tank from 2 angles instead of a single point. Its a bit expensive, but I'm hopeful it will keep all sides of the SPS branches colorful in my small tank.

03/10/2015, 09:17 AM	#331
Radioheadx14 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,601	Not with the new kessils yet. I can post a picture of the single a150w later tonight if you'd like.

03/10/2015, 11:09 AM	#333
Swizzle81 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: New York Posts: 27	I am possibly looking at the A360WE for my 5' 92G (59X20X22). Question is do I need 2 or is 3 overkill? Or just wait for the AP700 whenever they decide to release it, thanks.

03/10/2015, 12:30 PM	#336
Swizzle81 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: New York Posts: 27	Ok thanks for the input. Yea I forgot to mention I plan on keeping softies and LPS initially.

03/10/2015, 05:03 PM	#337
bper Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 11	For those with the new A160WE running with an Apex, how dim can you get them? I have 2 A360WE's and as you guys probably know, it cuts off at around 13% which is still pretty bright. I have a supplemental DIY LEDs that I'm looking to replace with a pair of A160WE's if it dims considerably less then the 360's.

03/16/2015, 11:21 AM	#343
Scorpius Stick Head Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 1,208	I run my a360w at 15% max intensity currently over my 18in square cube. If I ran it at 60% intensity the glass on my tank would melt.

03/16/2015, 02:38 PM	#347
Snarl Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 117	I would imagine that this has been asked already on this thread but skimmed through a bunch of pages and haven't seen it. Kessil's website says the AP700 is coming soon. Anyone know what soon means? This is the fixture I want to go with as I love kessils technology but I have a hood on my tank I feel that the A360s would not be good for my setup. Soon to me means weeks but to a company it could be 6 months.