Octo Extreme Skimmer KO Club - Page 2

afboundguy · 04/21/2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by sjm817
That's the pump starting up the wrong way. Its a problem with the Sicces. The volute is directional and the stock impeller only turns the right way. The PW/MW can turn either direction. ATB addresses this with a non directional volute. WM says they will be developing a PW impeller that only spins the right way.

Thanks... Just wanted to make sure this isn't totally out of the ordinary

Well the 160 is starting to pull out some nice gunk

Feed the fish/acans two days in a row, about 4-5 cubes in a 55 with 5 fish so that's a lot of food

Here's about 2-3 days worth of skimmate nice and smelly

ai-reefer · 04/22/2009, 07:30 AM

what is the scfh with the factory pinwheel?, in gona drill a hole at the base so that the air line is not bent, will also be using shorter and stiffer tubing and the mesh mod.

I'll post scfh results later on today

Charlie Davidson · 04/22/2009, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ai-reefer
what is the scfh with the factory pinwheel?, in gona drill a hole at the base so that the air line is not bent, will also be using shorter and stiffer tubing and the mesh mod.

I'll post scfh results later on today

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1590754

ai-reefer · 04/22/2009, 09:19 AM

Thanks. Ok i tried the mesh mod but the scfh didn't improve dramatically. I want to get 30 scfh .

With the mesh mod however the reading is more stabe, doesnt jump as much.

I might order the larger PPW since people are getting good results from it.

I'll have to wait till the mesh mod breaks in and see what happens with the skimmate.

Charlie Davidson · 04/22/2009, 09:45 AM

what were your readings?? the RS white wheel has been @ the same for everyone.. 17scfh
Mesh should have been a big difference.. Hmm?? where is your bubble break set?
Can you post pic's?

ai-reefer · 04/22/2009, 10:09 AM

I was talking about the difference between mesh mod and the small purple pinwheel.

The black dot is always jumping so its hard to get a good reading.

THE ROOK · 04/22/2009, 10:12 AM

A meshed wheel should produce 30 scfh pretty easily. Three layers of flat back mesh trimmed about 1/4" beyond the plate.

ceci1357 · 04/22/2009, 10:52 AM

Charlie , how is the skimmer doing?

ai-reefer · 04/22/2009, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by THE ROOK
A meshed wheel should produce 30 scfh pretty easily. Three layers of flat back mesh trimmed about 1/4" beyond the plate.

you mean 1/4" more than the diameter of the plate?

If i make it any larger, it seems to be off balance, it has a tough time starting or is really loud.

I trimmed it the same diameter of the pinwheel and it's superquiet

THE ROOK · 04/22/2009, 12:20 PM

It can take a few tries to make a decent mesh wheel & many times it will start hard or possibly require blowing into the airline to start. It's all about how far you want to push the pump to get the desired scfh. There's a few members who have had over 40 scfh from their mesh wheels.

ai-reefer · 04/22/2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by THE ROOK
It can take a few tries to make a decent mesh wheel & many times it will start hard or possibly require blowing into the airline to start. It's all about how far you want to push the pump to get the desired scfh. There's a few members who have had over 40 scfh from their mesh wheels.

wow

...thats awesome, but isn't there a point where it's drawing too much air and not enough water making it less efficient?

Also a cone shaped riser would do a better job i think. the neck seems to be too wide on the octopus extreme 160, i could be wrong.

One thing that surprized me is that eventhough the mesh only works a little bit better than the PPW, its much quieter than the PPW, i dont know why but i'm lovin it

I'm guessing the mesh now will take a few days to break in? I will post first 24 hour picture here

Charlie Davidson · 04/22/2009, 01:29 PM

Both me and tang have had over 50scfh.. If you want to learn, its best that you read the thread you post in!
(yes, you may be wrong)

ai-reefer · 04/22/2009, 01:32 PM

Did you mean this thread or the older disconnected one?

Either way, im gona go back and read the whole thing. Thanks.

Are you saying that the cone shape wouldn't make any difference?

dang its 40 pages

Charlie Davidson · 04/22/2009, 02:04 PM

It is more than 40 pages, it has split several times.. but if you want to learn.. read all you can..

hounddog01 · 04/22/2009, 03:04 PM

Where can you order the Purple pin wheel? I have the 160 with mesh and it is pulling about 35. Would like to try the other wheel.

ai-reefer · 04/22/2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hounddog01
Where can you order the Purple pin wheel? I have the 160 with mesh and it is pulling about 35. Would like to try the other wheel.

If you are pulling 35 thats very good. I wouldn't bother touching that.

The large PPW $40 you can get from reef specialty. It will pull about 30, which is lower than what you have.

How did you do your mesh mod?

ceci1357 · 04/22/2009, 05:04 PM

Hey charlie you ignoring me?

Charlie Davidson · 04/22/2009, 05:59 PM

Sorry Ceciel, She's doing great!

ceci1357 · 04/22/2009, 08:32 PM

Glad to hear it. Still breaking in?

tas5tas · 04/22/2009, 08:48 PM

I am finally through dealing with Coralvue!!!! They don't want to do anything about the noise issue with my skimmer! They have referred me back to the retailer, which is Reef Specialty, and I'm not going to bug Mike or Jeremy about a problem that is not theirs, but Coralvue's. When I inquired about Coralvue purchasing my skimmer back from me or exchanging it for another model not using the sicce pumps, I was quoted a price on a different skimmer and told to try and sell my skimmer for as much as I could get for it. Yeah right.....like I'm going to stick it to someone with a skimmer that's loud as a food processor or garbage disposal. I am done trying to work with Coralvue on this issue and since my skimmer is still WELL under warranty I will start to pursue other actions to get this problem resolved. I will never pay my hard earned money to a company that won't stand behind it's products or won't honor it's warranty. BUYERS BEWARE OF COMPANIES LIKE THIS!!!!!!!

hounddog01 · 04/22/2009, 10:47 PM

I took mesh and used the pin wheel it came with. I cut it to size and pushed the mesh down into the pinwheel very gently. It started making smaller bubbles and pulling 35 scfh. It starts pulling about 30 and after an hour is up to 35.

tangtang clown · 04/23/2009, 06:16 AM

tas, maybe you could sell it to someone who has their sump set up in a fish room. That way the loud noise wouldn't bother them.
Have you talked to Mike or Jeremy at all?

tangtang clown · 04/23/2009, 06:21 AM

My skimmer finally settled down after going bizerk from the mudding and painting I did in the living room. I had to change out some water, but it is finally back to normal and I must say that this PPW is working out nicely. Turned the skimmer off last night to clean the cup and when I plugged it back in, it started right up at 33scfh. I believe these skimmers run best in the mid 30's. This reduces turbulence and makes them more efficient.

Hounddog, do you have any pics of that bearded dragon? Congrats.

Charlie Davidson · 04/23/2009, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ceci1357
Glad to hear it. Still breaking in?

It have become very consistant now.. It over filled the cup one night this week, but I am really liking the results!

tas5tas · 04/23/2009, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tangtang clown
tas, maybe you could sell it to someone who has their sump set up in a fish room. That way the loud noise wouldn't bother them.
Have you talked to Mike or Jeremy at all?

I talked to Mike and Jeremy in the beginning.......but when it's been 3 months since purchase.....it's no longer the retailer's problem.....it's the manufactuer's problem. I've dealt with Coralvue for over a month now......and they did send me new pinwheels and magnet assemblies, but now that they didn't work it's like.....oh well...I guess you're going to have to live with it.....we won't buy back our dysfunctional products. Ugg...I'm so frustrated right now! I've spent $500 for a foaming garbage disposal!!!!!!!

It will take me a couple of months to save up, but I'll be getting a BK 250 Deluxe Internal to replace this piece of garbage!!!

04/22/2009, 09:45 AM	#30
Charlie Davidson Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Deltaville , Va Posts: 10,977	what were your readings?? the RS white wheel has been @ the same for everyone.. 17scfh Mesh should have been a big difference.. Hmm?? where is your bubble break set? Can you post pic's? __________________ Richmond Reef Club Current Tank Info: Doing without for a while :)

04/22/2009, 01:29 PM	#37
Charlie Davidson Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Deltaville , Va Posts: 10,977	Both me and tang have had over 50scfh.. If you want to learn, its best that you read the thread you post in! (yes, you may be wrong) __________________ Richmond Reef Club Current Tank Info: Doing without for a while :)

04/22/2009, 02:04 PM	#39
Charlie Davidson Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Deltaville , Va Posts: 10,977	It is more than 40 pages, it has split several times.. but if you want to learn.. read all you can.. __________________ Richmond Reef Club Current Tank Info: Doing without for a while :)

04/22/2009, 03:04 PM	#40
hounddog01 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 1,045	Where can you order the Purple pin wheel? I have the 160 with mesh and it is pulling about 35. Would like to try the other wheel. __________________ Brad "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." - Socrates Current Tank Info: 180 gallon Acrylic, 65 gallon custom sump, Octopus Extreme 250, 150 LBS Marco Rock, 2-250 W Phoenix with 4 110 VHO supplement

04/22/2009, 05:59 PM	#43
Charlie Davidson Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Deltaville , Va Posts: 10,977	Sorry Ceciel, She's doing great! __________________ Richmond Reef Club Current Tank Info: Doing without for a while :)

04/22/2009, 07:30 AM	#27
ai-reefer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood Posts: 525	what is the scfh with the factory pinwheel?, in gona drill a hole at the base so that the air line is not bent, will also be using shorter and stiffer tubing and the mesh mod. I'll post scfh results later on today

04/22/2009, 09:19 AM	#29
ai-reefer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood Posts: 525	Thanks. Ok i tried the mesh mod but the scfh didn't improve dramatically. I want to get 30 scfh . With the mesh mod however the reading is more stabe, doesnt jump as much. I might order the larger PPW since people are getting good results from it. I'll have to wait till the mesh mod breaks in and see what happens with the skimmate.

04/22/2009, 10:09 AM	#31
ai-reefer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood Posts: 525	I was talking about the difference between mesh mod and the small purple pinwheel. The black dot is always jumping so its hard to get a good reading.

04/22/2009, 10:12 AM	#32
THE ROOK Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Springfield, MA Posts: 2,100	A meshed wheel should produce 30 scfh pretty easily. Three layers of flat back mesh trimmed about 1/4" beyond the plate.

04/22/2009, 10:52 AM	#33
ceci1357 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: florida Posts: 178	Charlie , how is the skimmer doing?

04/22/2009, 12:20 PM	#35
THE ROOK Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Springfield, MA Posts: 2,100	It can take a few tries to make a decent mesh wheel & many times it will start hard or possibly require blowing into the airline to start. It's all about how far you want to push the pump to get the desired scfh. There's a few members who have had over 40 scfh from their mesh wheels.

04/22/2009, 01:32 PM	#38
ai-reefer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood Posts: 525	Did you mean this thread or the older disconnected one? Either way, im gona go back and read the whole thing. Thanks. Are you saying that the cone shape wouldn't make any difference? dang its 40 pages

04/22/2009, 05:04 PM	#42
ceci1357 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: florida Posts: 178	Hey charlie you ignoring me?

04/22/2009, 08:32 PM	#44
ceci1357 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: florida Posts: 178	Glad to hear it. Still breaking in?

04/22/2009, 08:48 PM	#45
tas5tas Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lumberton,TX Posts: 536	I am finally through dealing with Coralvue!!!! They don't want to do anything about the noise issue with my skimmer! They have referred me back to the retailer, which is Reef Specialty, and I'm not going to bug Mike or Jeremy about a problem that is not theirs, but Coralvue's. When I inquired about Coralvue purchasing my skimmer back from me or exchanging it for another model not using the sicce pumps, I was quoted a price on a different skimmer and told to try and sell my skimmer for as much as I could get for it. Yeah right.....like I'm going to stick it to someone with a skimmer that's loud as a food processor or garbage disposal. I am done trying to work with Coralvue on this issue and since my skimmer is still WELL under warranty I will start to pursue other actions to get this problem resolved. I will never pay my hard earned money to a company that won't stand behind it's products or won't honor it's warranty. BUYERS BEWARE OF COMPANIES LIKE THIS!!!!!!! __________________ In school for the next few years, but will be back bigger and better than ever!! Current Tank Info: Hiatis from hobby

04/22/2009, 10:47 PM	#46
hounddog01 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 1,045	I took mesh and used the pin wheel it came with. I cut it to size and pushed the mesh down into the pinwheel very gently. It started making smaller bubbles and pulling 35 scfh. It starts pulling about 30 and after an hour is up to 35. __________________ Brad "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." - Socrates Current Tank Info: 180 gallon Acrylic, 65 gallon custom sump, Octopus Extreme 250, 150 LBS Marco Rock, 2-250 W Phoenix with 4 110 VHO supplement

04/23/2009, 06:16 AM	#47
tangtang clown Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The DUB, NC Posts: 2,711	tas, maybe you could sell it to someone who has their sump set up in a fish room. That way the loud noise wouldn't bother them. Have you talked to Mike or Jeremy at all? __________________ Mind over chatter.

04/23/2009, 06:21 AM	#48
tangtang clown Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The DUB, NC Posts: 2,711	My skimmer finally settled down after going bizerk from the mudding and painting I did in the living room. I had to change out some water, but it is finally back to normal and I must say that this PPW is working out nicely. Turned the skimmer off last night to clean the cup and when I plugged it back in, it started right up at 33scfh. I believe these skimmers run best in the mid 30's. This reduces turbulence and makes them more efficient. Hounddog, do you have any pics of that bearded dragon? Congrats. __________________ Mind over chatter.