Help Needed Urgently! Tank Crashing... - Page 2

rkelman · 07/31/2009, 06:17 AM

"I think it's all stable, but will leave it for a bit before adding more corals."

Definitely. You have too much too fast it seems. Bad things happen fast in a small tank. Just work on keeping it stable for a while. I haven't heard of "Aqua one" or "Aqua world" you know with all these cheap heaters you've bought you could have had 1 good one. And a no name filter? You are begging for trouble. Take your time and invest in quality equipment that will last and you'll save in the long run. Cheap stuff will fail at the worst possible time and wipe you out.

Avalon_Princess · 07/31/2009, 10:17 PM

The filter has fantastic reviews from those who use it, I can't spell the brand name but it is very common in Germany. It is also what I would regard as quality, the price tag certainly doesn't mean something is quality.

Aqua One and AquarWorld are the Two top brands here in Australia they are also in England, they sell everything and are a fairly reliable well priced brand. I try to avoid buying most imported products when I can get away with it simply because it seems idiotic to pay an extra $10-20 because the object had to be shipped halfway round the world when I can buy one made here. The good quality heater is $102.50 that I want, the heaters I've used two were taken from broken down tanks, one new one was sent by an online store when they messed up my order and the other I spent $20 on, I certainly could not have bought the inline heater I wanted with that.

I can't see where the too much too fast comes from in my tank. I have no fish, I started out with cured liverock which was transported in water I then waited to ensure there were no spikes testing daily, I then began adding a hermit crab, some softies, over a period of five weeks I added one hermit crab, four species of mushrooms, a tiny frag of zoanthids and a small favia. I feed the tank half a cube of mysis once a week at most often less. Then we had the brown out and i began switching equipment out, the only thing I had to wait on was the canister because I didn't want to get a low quality one so had to wait for this to arrive. My tank has less stock in it then tanks I see online that are only one or two weeks old. If I stocked my tank too fast then I guess most of the people on reef central are heading right for a tank crash as well.

Tadashi · 08/01/2009, 12:15 AM

wow a heater costing $100. What were you getting a 5000-watt heater? Your chiller prices must be crazy high. Do the chillers out there also provide heat?

Avalon_Princess · 08/01/2009, 12:49 AM

This is the heater-
http://www.aquariumproducts.com.au/c...D=3282&catID=7

Never really bothered with chillers, but I've never seen one below $400

rkelman · 08/01/2009, 05:16 AM

Ah your in Australia. I didn't recognize the brands.

"I can't see where the too much too fast comes from in my tank. "

You are getting bacteria blooms and Ammonia has risen again.. You still have new tank syndrome. Like I said let it settle. Just because others put more in their tanks sooner is no reason you need to. Perhaps their live rock was cured? Maybe they had an established filter? Either way yours is not ready.

Tadashi · 08/01/2009, 07:46 AM

Oh wow that is a high speed heater. I would have just gotten the cheaper $25 ones because usually I am trying to get heat out of the system not put it in.

I thought this was a tank that was 6 mo old? Usually your new tank syndrom should be over by now. However, if it was not fully cycled then that could be the cause. You could have cycled it but the addition of new life increased the demand on the bacteria populations requiring them to increase, thus another mini-cycle. This why they say to add slowly.

Avalon_Princess · 08/01/2009, 05:12 PM

It's about seven weeks old. I was adding slowly that's why I'm confused and I used cured liverock, not even the sponges died. Since I wasn't adding anything but soft corals that didn't need food I didn't force a cycle with a dead prawn, I also didn't wnat to kill all the life on the rock off.

Oh well what's done is done, now I just have to wait out the algae blooms, lucky me. I'm using my coral money for the next few months on a new bulb for the MH.

I've never had a problem with overheating in a tank, at most the MH will raise it .4 of a degree and the tanks in the same room as my birds so whenever the day gets too hot aircon goes on. I want that heater for a few reasons, firstly it's really good quality and will keep the temperature perfect, it's inline so I can get equipment out of the tank and it heats all the water that passes through and because it always has water in it there's no stress if you forget to unplug it when doing maintenance.

rkelman · 08/02/2009, 05:55 AM

I've never had an inline heater but it sounds like it would be ok. I guess in a sump system it doesn't matter but in this case I think its probably your best choice.

08/01/2009, 12:15 AM	#28
Tadashi Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Ft. Hood, TX, USA Posts: 2,252	wow a heater costing $100. What were you getting a 5000-watt heater? Your chiller prices must be crazy high. Do the chillers out there also provide heat? __________________ Honey, put down the bleach and step away from the tank. I promise we will spend more quality time together. Current Tank Info: 14-gal Oceanic BioCube (see homepage link for current status)

08/01/2009, 07:46 AM	#31
Tadashi Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Ft. Hood, TX, USA Posts: 2,252	Oh wow that is a high speed heater. I would have just gotten the cheaper $25 ones because usually I am trying to get heat out of the system not put it in. I thought this was a tank that was 6 mo old? Usually your new tank syndrom should be over by now. However, if it was not fully cycled then that could be the cause. You could have cycled it but the addition of new life increased the demand on the bacteria populations requiring them to increase, thus another mini-cycle. This why they say to add slowly. __________________ Honey, put down the bleach and step away from the tank. I promise we will spend more quality time together. Current Tank Info: 14-gal Oceanic BioCube (see homepage link for current status)

08/01/2009, 05:12 PM	#32
Avalon_Princess Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hunter Valley, NSW Posts: 127	It's about seven weeks old. I was adding slowly that's why I'm confused and I used cured liverock, not even the sponges died. Since I wasn't adding anything but soft corals that didn't need food I didn't force a cycle with a dead prawn, I also didn't wnat to kill all the life on the rock off. Oh well what's done is done, now I just have to wait out the algae blooms, lucky me. I'm using my coral money for the next few months on a new bulb for the MH. I've never had a problem with overheating in a tank, at most the MH will raise it .4 of a degree and the tanks in the same room as my birds so whenever the day gets too hot aircon goes on. I want that heater for a few reasons, firstly it's really good quality and will keep the temperature perfect, it's inline so I can get equipment out of the tank and it heats all the water that passes through and because it always has water in it there's no stress if you forget to unplug it when doing maintenance. Last edited by Avalon_Princess; 08/01/2009 at 05:18 PM.

07/31/2009, 06:17 AM	#26
rkelman Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Belleville, Ontario Canada Posts: 3,438	"I think it's all stable, but will leave it for a bit before adding more corals." Definitely. You have too much too fast it seems. Bad things happen fast in a small tank. Just work on keeping it stable for a while. I haven't heard of "Aqua one" or "Aqua world" you know with all these cheap heaters you've bought you could have had 1 good one. And a no name filter? You are begging for trouble. Take your time and invest in quality equipment that will last and you'll save in the long run. Cheap stuff will fail at the worst possible time and wipe you out.

07/31/2009, 10:17 PM	#27
Avalon_Princess Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hunter Valley, NSW Posts: 127	The filter has fantastic reviews from those who use it, I can't spell the brand name but it is very common in Germany. It is also what I would regard as quality, the price tag certainly doesn't mean something is quality. Aqua One and AquarWorld are the Two top brands here in Australia they are also in England, they sell everything and are a fairly reliable well priced brand. I try to avoid buying most imported products when I can get away with it simply because it seems idiotic to pay an extra $10-20 because the object had to be shipped halfway round the world when I can buy one made here. The good quality heater is $102.50 that I want, the heaters I've used two were taken from broken down tanks, one new one was sent by an online store when they messed up my order and the other I spent $20 on, I certainly could not have bought the inline heater I wanted with that. I can't see where the too much too fast comes from in my tank. I have no fish, I started out with cured liverock which was transported in water I then waited to ensure there were no spikes testing daily, I then began adding a hermit crab, some softies, over a period of five weeks I added one hermit crab, four species of mushrooms, a tiny frag of zoanthids and a small favia. I feed the tank half a cube of mysis once a week at most often less. Then we had the brown out and i began switching equipment out, the only thing I had to wait on was the canister because I didn't want to get a low quality one so had to wait for this to arrive. My tank has less stock in it then tanks I see online that are only one or two weeks old. If I stocked my tank too fast then I guess most of the people on reef central are heading right for a tank crash as well.

08/01/2009, 12:49 AM	#29
Avalon_Princess Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hunter Valley, NSW Posts: 127	This is the heater- http://www.aquariumproducts.com.au/c...D=3282&catID=7 Never really bothered with chillers, but I've never seen one below $400

08/01/2009, 05:16 AM	#30
rkelman Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Belleville, Ontario Canada Posts: 3,438	Ah your in Australia. I didn't recognize the brands. "I can't see where the too much too fast comes from in my tank. " You are getting bacteria blooms and Ammonia has risen again.. You still have new tank syndrome. Like I said let it settle. Just because others put more in their tanks sooner is no reason you need to. Perhaps their live rock was cured? Maybe they had an established filter? Either way yours is not ready.

08/02/2009, 05:55 AM	#33
rkelman Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Belleville, Ontario Canada Posts: 3,438	I've never had an inline heater but it sounds like it would be ok. I guess in a sump system it doesn't matter but in this case I think its probably your best choice.