Pretty sure I messed up - Page 2

small alien · 08/19/2009, 11:02 PM

I would bet it was dying from starvation of some other attribute of captivity. Anything eating it was probably after the fact.

Ebisan · 08/19/2009, 11:33 PM

Remove the crab and see if the starfish recovers. If not the crab was most likely just taking the opportunity to feed on the dying starfish.

cass · 08/20/2009, 06:12 AM

and IMO...3 month oldtank is barely out of a cycle....IMO way to early to add sensitive livestock...

Tank didn't have to cycle. Started with 40lbs of live rock from a 15,000 gallon system. The live rock and sand sold from this system is over a year old. Put the rock and sand in and started adding live stock a week later. No cycle ever happened. You can check this info at reefsystems.com.

cass · 08/20/2009, 08:42 AM

With everything aside I don't recall anything that I have had or seen in 10 years or so starve in 2 days.

lkc · 08/20/2009, 11:29 AM

It was probably the Emerald. They can be very destructive. I've had a little red linkia for over a year in my 15 gal. The perams flucuate wildly every day. I think part of the reason it’s still alive is because I seed the tank with GARTHS Grunge. YUK. I also overfeed the tank! It gets plenty of food. Chin up Cass, don't let them get you down.

broke1 · 08/20/2009, 11:40 AM

I agree on the barely out of cycle statement. I start all of my tanks with very established rock and sand, but that doesn't mean they don't cycle. The rock and sand you put in were not established for your bioload. I will agree that you probably helped it cycle much faster than it would if you started with dry everything.

I have a Blue linkia that I have had for 2.5 years now that has ben doing great in a 40g(60g) system. It was set up with rock, sand and water from my 240, but it still cycled, just not detectably. I have lost alot of stars, fromias mostly which from the description it sounds like you might have. I have absolutey no idea what this guy eats. but I would guess with a tank with detectable nutrients which mine does, grows micro life better and this might be what this guy is eating.

To be honest, I think I just got lucky that there is something in my tank that this guy can live off. Take the advice of the posters above, we actually know very little about the requirements of these guys, so all advice should be considered even if you don't like or agree with it. All we seem to know about these stars it what will kill them, not what will make them thrive.

spw4949 · 08/20/2009, 11:57 AM

Just for the record lkc, I'm not "trying to get anybody down", cass asked a question & I answered it, it isn't my fault he doesn't like the answer....

cass · 08/20/2009, 01:03 PM

Steve the answer wasn't the problem. The remark of writing a book would insult most anyone. Nor is it the best way to start with someone that you don't know. After that great informative statement that you gave, I mirrored you back. Did you expect a more positive response from me. Sorry if you didn't like a taste of your own attitude.

Cass

08/19/2009, 11:02 PM	#26
small alien The fungus is among us. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 3,884	I would bet it was dying from starvation of some other attribute of captivity. Anything eating it was probably after the fact. __________________ This moment is all we have. Current Tank Info: 75 mixed reef. F OSFF, Clingfish, M/F Leopards, M Mandy, Darwin Clown, Bullet Goby, Green Clown Goby, M/F Matted Files, Bluestripe Pipe, Tailspot Blenny, Canary Wrasse, Royal Gramma, Papua Toby Puffer, Snooty Maori Wrasse.

08/20/2009, 11:40 AM	#31
broke1 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: IL Posts: 1,721	I agree on the barely out of cycle statement. I start all of my tanks with very established rock and sand, but that doesn't mean they don't cycle. The rock and sand you put in were not established for your bioload. I will agree that you probably helped it cycle much faster than it would if you started with dry everything. I have a Blue linkia that I have had for 2.5 years now that has ben doing great in a 40g(60g) system. It was set up with rock, sand and water from my 240, but it still cycled, just not detectably. I have lost alot of stars, fromias mostly which from the description it sounds like you might have. I have absolutey no idea what this guy eats. but I would guess with a tank with detectable nutrients which mine does, grows micro life better and this might be what this guy is eating. To be honest, I think I just got lucky that there is something in my tank that this guy can live off. Take the advice of the posters above, we actually know very little about the requirements of these guys, so all advice should be considered even if you don't like or agree with it. All we seem to know about these stars it what will kill them, not what will make them thrive. __________________ Removed. Current Tank Info: Too big, yet too small

08/20/2009, 11:57 AM	#32
spw4949 Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Albany, N.Y. Posts: 1,594	Just for the record lkc, I'm not "trying to get anybody down", cass asked a question & I answered it, it isn't my fault he doesn't like the answer.... __________________ Steve Current Tank Info: 46 gal bowfront, mixed reef, 2x250W current outer orbit w/4x39W T5 ,10 gal fuge....38 gallon aggressive FOWLR, 10 gallon sump.

08/19/2009, 11:33 PM	#27
Ebisan Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,141	Remove the crab and see if the starfish recovers. If not the crab was most likely just taking the opportunity to feed on the dying starfish.

08/20/2009, 06:12 AM	#28
cass Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 11	and IMO...3 month oldtank is barely out of a cycle....IMO way to early to add sensitive livestock... Tank didn't have to cycle. Started with 40lbs of live rock from a 15,000 gallon system. The live rock and sand sold from this system is over a year old. Put the rock and sand in and started adding live stock a week later. No cycle ever happened. You can check this info at reefsystems.com.

08/20/2009, 08:42 AM	#29
cass Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 11	With everything aside I don't recall anything that I have had or seen in 10 years or so starve in 2 days.

08/20/2009, 11:29 AM	#30
lkc Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tarpon Springs Posts: 269	It was probably the Emerald. They can be very destructive. I've had a little red linkia for over a year in my 15 gal. The perams flucuate wildly every day. I think part of the reason it’s still alive is because I seed the tank with GARTHS Grunge. YUK. I also overfeed the tank! It gets plenty of food. Chin up Cass, don't let them get you down.

08/20/2009, 01:03 PM	#33
cass Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 11	Steve the answer wasn't the problem. The remark of writing a book would insult most anyone. Nor is it the best way to start with someone that you don't know. After that great informative statement that you gave, I mirrored you back. Did you expect a more positive response from me. Sorry if you didn't like a taste of your own attitude. Cass