Kessil Club - Page 20

Newbie Aquarist · 04/18/2015, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by moondoggy4

^^^^^ Were you at RAP?

Yessir

ca1ore · 04/18/2015, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jtgrimes

With the kessil controller, they come on at 5%intensity

I'm running mine off an apex, and they come on at around 12%. I wonder if it's a 'real' difference or not? Anyone tried both ways?

Newbie Aquarist · 04/18/2015, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ca1ore

I'm running mine off an apex, and they come on at around 12%. I wonder if it's a 'real' difference or not? Anyone tried both ways?

The only difference is the apex has more points compared to the Kessil controller which has 6. And if I'm not correct, the Kessil turn on at 5% compared to the apex which is 10%. Am I right ca1ore?

ca1ore · 04/18/2015, 10:49 AM

Yes on the apex; dunno on the Kessil controller since I don't have one. My only real 'disappointment' with the Kessil is that it doesn't dim down to zero. I know it's possible because my old TruLumen strips do.

Newbie Aquarist · 04/18/2015, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ca1ore

Yes on the apex; dunno on the Kessil controller since I don't have one. My only real 'disappointment' with the Kessil is that it doesn't dim down to zero. I know it's possible because my old TruLumen strips do.

Different technology but the guy from Kessil says they're working on the.

On the other hand I do have the Kessil controller and my lights come on at 5%.

mfaso24 · 04/18/2015, 02:47 PM

Hey kessil owners who supplement with t5....what kind of fixture do you use to run the t5's? How many bulbs and which bulbs do you use?

Mr. Comer · 04/19/2015, 11:35 AM

I just ordered an aquatic life 2x48" w fixture and am switching out the bulbs with a coral plus and a blue plus to supplement my pair of a350w's. From all the reading i've been doing this seems like the most commonly used t5's to supplement kessils.

Newbie Aquarist · 04/19/2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Comer

I just ordered an aquatic life 2x48" w fixture and am switching out the bulbs with a coral plus and a blue plus to supplement my pair of a350w's. From all the reading i've been doing this seems like the most commonly used t5's to supplement kessils.

I agree. Contemplated it myself.

mfaso24 · 04/19/2015, 03:37 PM

So you shouldn't run actinics with the supplements?

Newbie Aquarist · 04/19/2015, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mfaso24

So you shouldn't run actinics with the supplements?

Depends on how you like your tank color.

lewis2325 · 04/19/2015, 06:29 PM

Just got my kessils in a few days ago. Ordered two of the a360we for my 48" 75g tank. Hoping to keep mostly acros. Are two going to be enough or do I need to order more lights? T5 supplementation?

Newbie Aquarist · 04/20/2015, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lewis2325

Just got my kessils in a few days ago. Ordered two of the a360we for my 48" 75g tank. Hoping to keep mostly acros. Are two going to be enough or do I need to order more lights? T5 supplementation?

You should be fine as long as you don't have them on the edges or you're gonna need to add some supplementation.

rschneid · 04/20/2015, 08:43 AM

I am still a newbie, as my tank is only 8 months old. I have a 75g with 4 360we. I don't know if I need them or not. I have one acro and it is growing like mad. So is everything else, with the possible exception of my two gonipora's which, if they are growing its very very slow. My electric green birds nest as exploded, my acan lord also budding off lots of new heads. And of course, what no one tells you when you start (all my zenieas are now a problem, they are growing everywhere and I am now in the business of yanking them out). The pulsing zenias are more or less easy to pinch and yank. The regular zenia is a big fat problem as it tends to encircle and strangle my zoas. Its become a labor of love to go in with forceps and try to untangle the zenia strangler arms from around the zoas than then pull them out. But what is the whole thing if not a labor of love?
The star polyps are a whole different problem as they seem to engulf zoas, I have an ongoing battle between a bunch of vampire zoas which are being overrun by the star polyps expanding base. As near as I can tell the zoas are trying to extend out beyond the engulfing polyp base. Where it was not to late I have now inserted small plexiglass walls to keep the stars from overrunning my purple haze and my pink gonipora etc.

Did not originally imagine there could be a problem of invasive coral attackers! Knowing what I know now, I would never have put any zenias or polyps in the tank to begin with. But maybe I would not have listened to anyone who told me that to much growth would be a problem.?

But back to the main point, Light, I do have a pretty good sized clam going into his 4th week and he seems to be doing fine under the 4x 360we.

So while I can't say that you need 4x 360we on a 75 gallon tank , I can say that my 75 g tank is promoting growth growth and more growth.

lewis2325 · 04/20/2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Newbie Aquarist

You should be fine as long as you don't have them on the edges or you're gonna need to add some supplementation.

So with my setup should I be running my lights at 100% to keep acros? Also thinking about possibly picking up a third light.

RobNJ · 04/20/2015, 12:07 PM

2 a360we @ 100% in a 75g might fry acros. I have 2 in my 120 and don't go over 75%.

Newbie Aquarist · 04/20/2015, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lewis2325

So with my setup should I be running my lights at 100% to keep acros? Also thinking about possibly picking up a third light.

That will fry them Unless you acclimate them to that intensity and I wouldn't go higher than 75-80%.

lewis2325 · 04/20/2015, 01:09 PM

Alright, thanks. Easy to get a bit nervous I think with LED lights because they don't seem to look quite as bright as other lighting methods.

Newbie Aquarist · 04/20/2015, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lewis2325

Alright, thanks. Easy to get a bit nervous I think with LED lights because they don't seem to look quite as bright as other lighting methods.

But they pack a punch.

fishin710 · 04/20/2015, 01:35 PM

I have my controller set to come on 0/5 and the intensity does start at 1 and slowly ramp up. I noticed it because I have it set for 7am and my light turned on at 6:52 and slowly ramped up the intensity until it hit 0/5 at 7am.

lewis2325 · 04/20/2015, 01:40 PM

I still need to purchase the controller so I actually know what percentages I'm running at instead of a rough guess based on knob position.

Newbie Aquarist · 04/20/2015, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fishin710

I have my controller set to come on 0/5 and the intensity does start at 1 and slowly ramp up. I noticed it because I have it set for 7am and my light turned on at 6:52 and slowly ramped up the intensity until it hit 0/5 at 7am.

Mine is set to come on at 9am but turn on at 8:49am.

Jas111 · 04/20/2015, 04:36 PM

Hello all you Kessil owners.

So I have been reading thru this thread and recently I have been contemplating going with T5 supplements over my 75 gallon tank. I am currently running two A360we and just haven’t found a spot where I really like the spectrum or intensity. Hopefully this week I will be ordering a few more things for my tank then plan on trying to go the Acro route. Lots of good information here and was just hoping those that have acro’s under Kessil only lighting could elaborate a little more on their intensity and color settings. Also maybe share a few pictures.

Don’t want to spend the money on a T5 retro kit if I don’t really have to. Can always use that for something else LOL..

Thanks for the great info!

adamPL · 04/20/2015, 08:54 PM

Anyone here, using Kessils on deeper tank like 36" or more with good results?

heliguy71 · 04/22/2015, 02:21 PM

I bought a a360we to try on the right side of my 220 gallon which is 27" deep.I have had it for about a month and started at 40% intensity and now up to 50% for about three hours a day before it ramps down to 45%,so far things are doing great.My light is 12" above water line,not sure if i should lower the light or just keep increasing intensity.taking it very slow before i get two more.shimmer is awesome,it is dimmer then my chinese lights but it looks alot better i think.

lewis2325 · 04/22/2015, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by heliguy71

I bought a a360we to try on the right side of my 220 gallon which is 27" deep.I have had it for about a month and started at 40% intensity and now up to 50% for about three hours a day before it ramps down to 45%,so far things are doing great.My light is 12" above water line,not sure if i should lower the light or just keep increasing intensity.taking it very slow before i get two more.shimmer is awesome,it is dimmer then my chinese lights but it looks alot better i think.

What kind of coral are you keeping under your kessil?

04/18/2015, 10:49 AM	#479
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	Yes on the apex; dunno on the Kessil controller since I don't have one. My only real 'disappointment' with the Kessil is that it doesn't dim down to zero. I know it's possible because my old TruLumen strips do. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

04/19/2015, 11:35 AM	#482
Mr. Comer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 268	I just ordered an aquatic life 2x48" w fixture and am switching out the bulbs with a coral plus and a blue plus to supplement my pair of a350w's. From all the reading i've been doing this seems like the most commonly used t5's to supplement kessils. __________________ Reefing since 2003-DSA 100g pro, Radion XR-30 pros, ReefLink, Synergy Reef CL-34, Lifereef SVS2-24, Apex EL, various Jebao/Jecod RW/DCP/DCT

04/18/2015, 02:47 PM	#481
mfaso24 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 800	Hey kessil owners who supplement with t5....what kind of fixture do you use to run the t5's? How many bulbs and which bulbs do you use?

04/19/2015, 03:37 PM	#484
mfaso24 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 800	So you shouldn't run actinics with the supplements?

04/19/2015, 06:29 PM	#486
lewis2325 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North Carolina Posts: 65	Just got my kessils in a few days ago. Ordered two of the a360we for my 48" 75g tank. Hoping to keep mostly acros. Are two going to be enough or do I need to order more lights? T5 supplementation?

04/20/2015, 08:43 AM	#488
rschneid Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 60	I am still a newbie, as my tank is only 8 months old. I have a 75g with 4 360we. I don't know if I need them or not. I have one acro and it is growing like mad. So is everything else, with the possible exception of my two gonipora's which, if they are growing its very very slow. My electric green birds nest as exploded, my acan lord also budding off lots of new heads. And of course, what no one tells you when you start (all my zenieas are now a problem, they are growing everywhere and I am now in the business of yanking them out). The pulsing zenias are more or less easy to pinch and yank. The regular zenia is a big fat problem as it tends to encircle and strangle my zoas. Its become a labor of love to go in with forceps and try to untangle the zenia strangler arms from around the zoas than then pull them out. But what is the whole thing if not a labor of love? The star polyps are a whole different problem as they seem to engulf zoas, I have an ongoing battle between a bunch of vampire zoas which are being overrun by the star polyps expanding base. As near as I can tell the zoas are trying to extend out beyond the engulfing polyp base. Where it was not to late I have now inserted small plexiglass walls to keep the stars from overrunning my purple haze and my pink gonipora etc. Did not originally imagine there could be a problem of invasive coral attackers! Knowing what I know now, I would never have put any zenias or polyps in the tank to begin with. But maybe I would not have listened to anyone who told me that to much growth would be a problem.? But back to the main point, Light, I do have a pretty good sized clam going into his 4th week and he seems to be doing fine under the 4x 360we. So while I can't say that you need 4x 360we on a 75 gallon tank , I can say that my 75 g tank is promoting growth growth and more growth.

04/20/2015, 12:07 PM	#490
RobNJ Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hasbrouck Heights, NJ Posts: 945	2 a360we @ 100% in a 75g might fry acros. I have 2 in my 120 and don't go over 75%.

04/20/2015, 01:09 PM	#492
lewis2325 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North Carolina Posts: 65	Alright, thanks. Easy to get a bit nervous I think with LED lights because they don't seem to look quite as bright as other lighting methods.

04/20/2015, 01:35 PM	#494
fishin710 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 31	I have my controller set to come on 0/5 and the intensity does start at 1 and slowly ramp up. I noticed it because I have it set for 7am and my light turned on at 6:52 and slowly ramped up the intensity until it hit 0/5 at 7am.

04/20/2015, 01:40 PM	#495
lewis2325 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North Carolina Posts: 65	I still need to purchase the controller so I actually know what percentages I'm running at instead of a rough guess based on knob position.

04/20/2015, 04:36 PM	#497
Jas111 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 13	Hello all you Kessil owners. So I have been reading thru this thread and recently I have been contemplating going with T5 supplements over my 75 gallon tank. I am currently running two A360we and just haven’t found a spot where I really like the spectrum or intensity. Hopefully this week I will be ordering a few more things for my tank then plan on trying to go the Acro route. Lots of good information here and was just hoping those that have acro’s under Kessil only lighting could elaborate a little more on their intensity and color settings. Also maybe share a few pictures. Don’t want to spend the money on a T5 retro kit if I don’t really have to. Can always use that for something else LOL.. Thanks for the great info!

04/20/2015, 08:54 PM	#498
adamPL Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Middletown,NJ Posts: 474	Anyone here, using Kessils on deeper tank like 36" or more with good results?

04/22/2015, 02:21 PM	#499
heliguy71 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: larsen,wisconsin Posts: 81	I bought a a360we to try on the right side of my 220 gallon which is 27" deep.I have had it for about a month and started at 40% intensity and now up to 50% for about three hours a day before it ramps down to 45%,so far things are doing great.My light is 12" above water line,not sure if i should lower the light or just keep increasing intensity.taking it very slow before i get two more.shimmer is awesome,it is dimmer then my chinese lights but it looks alot better i think.