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Unread 04/14/2013, 03:42 PM   #5926
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24g nanocube.

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Lots of rocks with holes, marco rock.
1-2 in of fiji pink sand
MJ900 return (200gph)
Tunze 6015 (450gph)

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Filter floss--> GAC in bag--> refugium ( live rock pieces not rubble/chaeto)--> return

Inhabitants
Bicolor blenny (3in)
Ocelaris Clown (1.5in)
Pistol shrimp
Trochus snails 2x
Nassarius 4x
Dwarf cerith 20-30 (high number, very small and get in the holes of marco)

Husbandry
5 gallon water change weekly
Filter floss changed 2x week
GAC changed monthly

Nitrates <20, currently 5-10.
SG 1.023

Last fish added 2 weeks ago. No amonia or nitrate detectable for last 3 weeks.

I'd like to know about adding rainsford goby or ywg to this setup. Bicolor blenny compatibility and bioload compatibility. I feed spectrum life Thera A pellets and PE mysis shrimp.

I'd like to end up with 3-4 fish total.


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24g nanocube.

Tank
Lots of rocks with holes, marco rock.
1-2 in of fiji pink sand
MJ900 return (200gph)
Tunze 6015 (450gph)

Filter
Filter floss--> GAC in bag--> refugium ( live rock pieces not rubble/chaeto)--> return

Inhabitants
Bicolor blenny (3in)
Ocelaris Clown (1.5in)
Pistol shrimp
Trochus snails 2x
Nassarius 4x
Dwarf cerith 20-30 (high number, very small and get in the holes of marco)

Husbandry
5 gallon water change weekly
Filter floss changed 2x week
GAC changed monthly

Nitrates <20, currently 5-10.
SG 1.023

Last fish added 2 weeks ago. No amonia or nitrate detectable for last 3 weeks.

I'd like to know about adding rainsford goby or ywg to this setup. Bicolor blenny compatibility and bioload compatibility. I feed spectrum life Thera A pellets and PE mysis shrimp.

I'd like to end up with 3-4 fish total.
A YWG would do fine. Bioload with those 3 fish would also be fine.


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Unread 04/14/2013, 08:20 PM   #5928
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Current tank info:
56 gal 40lbs sand, 25ish lbs LR, 10-15 lbs salt safe man made decor
One ocellaris clown
One toby puffer
One coral beauty
small CUC of no more than 60 snails and one hermit crab

Hoping to add some (or all if possible) of the following:
Sailfin Blenny
Six line wrasse or Flasher Wrasse
Small group of pajama cardinals (3)
and/or Kaudrens Cardinal
And maybe some type of mushroom coral or polyps (I know there is a chance my puffer and angel may snack on corals, if one is less risky than others I would love to know, but if you think its not worth the risk I appreciate that opinion as well)

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Current tank info:
56 gal 40lbs sand, 25ish lbs LR, 10-15 lbs salt safe man made decor
One ocellaris clown
One toby puffer Is highly likely to nip the fins of tankmates and is not safe for most invertebrates
One coral beauty
small CUC of no more than 60 snails and one hermit crab

Hoping to add some (or all if possible) of the following:
Sailfin Blenny
Six line wrasse or Flasher Wrasse can be aggressive especially towards other wrasses
Small group of pajama cardinals (3)
and/or Kaudrens Cardinal should be tank bred and only a male/female pair not more. However pick one type of cardinal only
And maybe some type of mushroom coral or polyps (I know there is a chance my puffer and angel may snack on corals, if one is less risky than others I would love to know, but if you think its not worth the risk I appreciate that opinion as well)

Mushroom corals are pretty safe from all fish but polyps are not

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Unread 04/14/2013, 08:40 PM   #5930
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Thank you so much! Very helpful! Mostly my puffer leaves his finny tank mates alone, but he does harrass the snails and hermit quite a bit.

So only one type of cardinal and a pair is better than a group
Flasher wrasse or six line is aggressive?

And thank you for the info on mushroom corals, I like them a lot and think they will someday make a great addition to my tank.


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The tank: 30 gallon rimless with 20 pounds of live sand and 30 pounds of live rock.

Flasher Wrasse or White Banded Possum Wrasse possum wrasse is ideal and excellent, a flasher wrasse really needs a larger tank (50g) and is a prolific jumper which in a small tank is difficult to properly control; egg crate does not work. Flasher wrasses in small tanks can also intimidate firefish
Purple Firefish ideally, should be first and is a wonderful fish
yasha goby + pistol shrimp. you can have two pistol shrimp if you choose

I am not sure which order to add those fish in. I am also having isses finding either wrasse locally so I may have to switch it out but I want to know if it will be okay before I really start searching for one.

the possum wrasse is so excellent that it is worth going the extra mile to acquire

Thank you!
I found a LFS that gets possum wrasses once or twice a month. He had one when I went but my tank is too new for a $50 fish. Purple firefish is out, my wife wanted a royal gramma instead.

I am also switching the yasha goby I posted about to a YWG. I have had it for about a week now in my QT system with the gramma. Both are best friends right now hanging out and eating together. I am going to also get a tiger pistol to go with him. When should I add the tiger pistol shrimp? Right now the tank is cycled and has frogspawn, some zoos and mushrooms. Should I add the shrimp now (3 weeks before the goby will be out of QT) or wait until the goby is in the tank?

I read of a guy that built a shrimp 'cage' out of rock in the front corner of his tank. He used a pipe to drop the shrimp onto that corner of the tank and the shrimp made it's home in the cage. When the goby was added he used the same pipe to direct the fish into the burrow and it moved in. Since it was right in the front they could always view the two. I have made such a cage, and I am hopeful the shrimp will move in.

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Unread 04/15/2013, 04:24 AM   #5932
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Thank you so much! Very helpful! Mostly my puffer leaves his finny tank mates alone, but he does harrass the snails and hermit quite a bit.

So only one type of cardinal and a pair is better than a group Bangaii cannot be a group, only a male/female pair

Flasher wrasse or six line is aggressive?

The six line is aggressive, the flasher wrasse is not

And thank you for the info on mushroom corals, I like them a lot and think they will someday make a great addition to my tank.



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Unread 04/15/2013, 04:30 AM   #5933
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I found a LFS that gets possum wrasses once or twice a month. He had one when I went but my tank is too new for a $50 fish. Purple firefish is out, my wife wanted a royal gramma instead.

I am also switching the yasha goby I posted about to a YWG. I have had it for about a week now in my QT system with the gramma. Both are best friends right now hanging out and eating together.

Fish are never friends. They either are indifferent to each other or aggressive towards each other. The friends concept is an attempt to anthropomorphizing animals but it is inaccurate in the case of fish.


I am going to also get a tiger pistol to go with him. When should I add the tiger pistol shrimp?

any time. The shrimp and goby will find each other. Alpheus randall is preferred.

Right now the tank is cycled and has frogspawn, some zoos and mushrooms. Should I add the shrimp now (3 weeks before the goby will be out of QT) or wait until the goby is in the tank?

wait until the goby is in the tank

I read of a guy that built a shrimp 'cage' out of rock in the front corner of his tank. He used a pipe to drop the shrimp onto that corner of the tank and the shrimp made it's home in the cage. When the goby was added he used the same pipe to direct the fish into the burrow and it moved in. Since it was right in the front they could always view the two. I have made such a cage, and I am hopeful the shrimp will move in.

not necessary and not desirable. The shrimp and goby will move around despite any artificial cage.

Thanks!
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Unread 04/15/2013, 08:36 AM   #5934
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Okay I'm in the planning stages for the fish going into QT in a few weeks. The tank is a 120G mixed reef tank with mostly SPS and LPS. Still cycling from an upgrade from a 55G. 30G sump, G2 skimmer, running carbon and GFO after cycle.

Here's my list in probable order of addition.

Green chromis
Tank raised bangai cardinal
Neon Goby
Pair of clowns
Whip fin fairy wrasse
Line spot flasher wrasse
Bartlets anthias
Royal gramma
Kole tang
Mandarin after a 1 year maturity of tank and seeding of pods.

Bio load okay? Thanks!
I've revised the above a bit to your suggestions as well as have swapped out a couple.

Green chromis
PJ cardinal
Firefish
Pair of clowns
Line spot flasher wrasse 2 female, 1 male
Bartlets anthias
Royal gramma
Kole tang
Mandarin after a 1 year maturity of tank and seeding of pods

Would I have room for another, similar sized tang or a genicanthus angelfish?


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I've revised the above a bit to your suggestions as well as have swapped out a couple.

Green chromis
PJ cardinal
Firefish
Pair of clowns
Line spot flasher wrasse 2 female, 1 male
Bartlets anthias
Royal gramma
Kole tang
Mandarin after a 1 year maturity of tank and seeding of pods

Looks good.

Would I have room for another, similar sized tang or a genicanthus angelfish?
room for sure, but I would get a Genicanthus angel rather than another tang because of eventual territorial imperatives once mature although Kole tangs are less than most others in this regard


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I've had a Kole YE Tang in a 20L QT for a few days now and it's quite timid and not eating yet. Otherwise it looks healthy. I was thinking about putting a Kaudern's Cardinal in there to give him some company and maybe show him how to eat. What are your thoughts on that? The Kole is a nice size, about 3". I've also thought about a couple firefish rather than the cardinal.


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I've had a Kole YE Tang in a 20L QT for a few days now and it's quite timid and not eating yet. Otherwise it looks healthy. I was thinking about putting a Kaudern's Cardinal in there to give him some company and maybe show him how to eat. What are your thoughts on that? The Kole is a nice size, about 3". I've also thought about a couple firefish rather than the cardinal.
I doubt that other fish will benefit his acclimation, perhaps even act to the contrary. What are you feeding? Btw, Firefish can only exist in pairs long term if they are a bonded male + female.


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I've tried algae wafers, nori, frozen mysis, flakes and pellets. Not all at once of course. He might have eaten some of the nori, it was ripped off the clip, but it was hard to tell.


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I've tried algae wafers, nori, frozen mysis, flakes and pellets. Not all at once of course. He might have eaten some of the nori, it was ripped off the clip, but it was hard to tell.
Unfortunately, this is really well beyond the scope of this thread which is marine fish compatibility. Frozen mysis and nori would be my first choices. Is this QT NSW? Or is there treatment going on?


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Unread 04/15/2013, 10:45 AM   #5940
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56 gal column
about 70lbs LR
40lbs sand

2 occelaris clowns
1 firefish
1 dwarf angel - thinking coral beauty
1 sailfin/lawnmower blenny
3 pajama cardinals

CUC- assorted hermits, snails, and a serpent starfish


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Unfortunately, this is really well beyond the scope of this thread which is marine fish compatibility. Frozen mysis and nori would be my first choices. Is this QT NSW? Or is there treatment going on?
ASW. No treatment. Had thought about doing prazi but was waiting until he started eating. I'll ask in one of the other threads but I don't think I need to worry yet. Thanks for the input.


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purple stripe dottyback

55 gallon with sump 55lbs LR

i have two established False Perc. Clowns, Lawnmower blennie, watchman gobie

both clowns are bigger than Purple Stripe, will the clowns be ok, can they prevent the dotty from being to aggressive towards them


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56 gal column
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40lbs sand

2 occelaris clowns
1 firefish
1 dwarf angel - thinking coral beauty
1 sailfin/lawnmower blenny
3 pajama cardinals

CUC- assorted hermits, snails, and a serpent starfish
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55 gallon with sump 55lbs LR

i have two established False Perc. Clowns, Lawnmower blennie, watchman gobie

both clowns are bigger than Purple Stripe, will the clowns be ok, can they prevent the dotty from being to aggressive towards them
Size is not an indication of ability to survive aggression. Pseudochromis can be very aggressive.


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Hello!

I currently have a 55 gallon reef tank that has been up and running for almost two years. It's current occupants are a midas blenny and a fathead anthias.

I'm looking at adding another more fish soon and thought I would get some ideas from you guys!

Ideally I would like to have one more "mid sized" (I use that term loosely) fish. One that would spend some time cruising the tank and in the water column. I was thinking maybe a single clown (On the fence, I like clown personality but would be concerned that it would become too dominant as it ages) or a single wrasse. I was also think about putting a couple smaller fish, maybe gobies (I like the neon, greenbanded, and clown gobies) later on but I'm wondering if:

1. You can mix gobies

2. If my midas blenny will be compatible with smaller gobies (or small fish in general). He is the dominate fish in the tank and occasionally will chase after my anthias.

I'm also thinking that adding at least one more similar sized fish to my current ones might disperse some of the attention away from the anthias and then I could add some smaller fish later.

So! Do you have anymore suggestions for a single (or paired) addition first and then some small fish species that could be mixed later?

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Hello!

I currently have a 55 gallon reef tank that has been up and running for almost two years. It's current occupants are a midas blenny and a fathead anthias.

I'm looking at adding another more fish soon and thought I would get some ideas from you guys!

Ideally I would like to have one more "mid sized" (I use that term loosely) fish. One that would spend some time cruising the tank and in the water column. I was thinking maybe a single clown (On the fence, I like clown personality but would be concerned that it would become too dominant as it ages) or a single wrasse. I was also think about putting a couple smaller fish, maybe gobies (I like the neon, greenbanded, and clown gobies) later on but I'm wondering if:

1. You can mix gobies

2. If my midas blenny will be compatible with smaller gobies (or small fish in general). He is the dominate fish in the tank and occasionally will chase after my anthias.

I'm also thinking that adding at least one more similar sized fish to my current ones might disperse some of the attention away from the anthias and then I could add some smaller fish later.

So! Do you have anymore suggestions for a single (or paired) addition first and then some small fish species that could be mixed later?

Thanks!
As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide suggestions for a variety of reasons. However if you provide a prospective stocking list, I will be happy to provide analysis and commentary. The Midas Blenny will continue to be aggressive, as he is currently king of the tank.


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As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide suggestions for a variety of reasons. However if you provide a prospective stocking list, I will be happy to provide analysis and commentary. The Midas Blenny will continue to be aggressive, as he is currently king of the tank.
Oops! Thanks Snorvich! I'll be back when I have a prospective list ready!


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I have 2 Occellaris Clowns, 1 Black Cap Jawfish, 1 Skunk Shrimp, 10 hermits, 1 Turbo snail. I posted a new thread asking for suggestion but thought that I'd also just go ahead and see what you guys think here.


With my current stock what do you guys think about adding 1 Purple Firefish? Would you only add 1?

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I have 2 Occellaris Clowns, 1 Black Cap Jawfish, 1 Skunk Shrimp, 10 hermits, 1 Turbo snail. I posted a new thread asking for suggestion but thought that I'd also just go ahead and see what you guys think here.


With my current stock what do you guys think about adding 1 Purple Firefish? Would you only add 1?

Thanks
This thread is only answered by Reef Central staff. A single purple firefish would be fine. Two would have to be a bonded male plus female pair for long term survival. Firefish are prolific jumpers so your tank would have to be tightly covered.


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Thank you for the quick response.


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