One photo to demonstrate why I am adding T5 to my Kessils - Page 3

Coelli · 12/30/2015, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fishresponse

So how many watts are running over your tank now?

Who? Sorry.

Scorpius · 12/30/2015, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Coelli

Hahaha yup!

I'm (OP) using the Kessils from 8AM to 10PM ramping up and down for dusk/dawn. The first T5 channel comes on at 10AM and the second at 11AM, then off in reverse order at 8PM and 9PM. If I had more than a 4x24 I probably would cut that period down. So far so good.

I'll let you know how my tank fairs, but I'm going to add a third A360we to my tank and angle the two outside lights towards the center of the tank. I'm hoping this will reduce shadowing significantly. I'd love to get an AP700, but $$$$. I can't justify T5 bulb changes either.

Coelli · 12/30/2015, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorpius

I'll let you know how my tank fairs, but I'm going to add a third A360we to my tank and angle the two outside lights towards the center of the tank. I'm hoping this will reduce shadowing significantly. I'd love to get an AP700, but $$$$. I can't justify T5 bulb changes either.

I picked up my ATI 4x24 for $175 with new bulbs in perfect condition - keep an eye out!

fishresponse · 12/30/2015, 02:22 PM

Sorry - the OP Coelli. Thx

Coelli · 12/30/2015, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fishresponse

Sorry - the OP Coelli. Thx

So now I'm running the ATI 4x24w (so 96w total) and two Kessil A360NEs that run for 14 hours and peak at ~70%.

Celtic_Fox · 12/30/2015, 02:50 PM

Is shading really an issue? I thought there was at least some energy exchange amongst the organisms in the same coral mass?

fishresponse · 12/30/2015, 02:54 PM

Got it - thx. I was having the same shadowing problem with an ecotech I had. Glad to see the positive response from your corals with the T5 addition.

RobTheReefer · 12/30/2015, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Celtic_Fox

Is shading really an issue? I thought there was at least some energy exchange amongst the organisms in the same coral mass?

Yeah. I've yet to see a picture of a real reef without "coral shading". But I guess the sun being on a light mover helps.

Scorpius · 01/07/2016, 01:10 PM

Added a third Kessil A360we to my 36in long tank. I angled the two outer units inward and the shadowing is greatly reduced and overall diffused lighting has increased. So you need one Kessil per foot of tank for the wide series which is one foot less per what Kessil says they can cover.

Tarawa · 01/07/2016, 09:36 PM

I have an old 36" coralife t5 fixture I used back on my FW tank, what kind of bulbs would you run to supplement LEDs?

gjxhj · 01/08/2016, 06:26 AM

I'm thinking about doing the same thing. I'm currently running two Kessils, but have been trying to decide if I should add a two bulb fixture to the front of the tank or just go with a six bulb fixture and ditch the Kessil's. Could you post a pic of how you currently have all your light mounted?

Logitek · 01/08/2016, 07:56 AM

I am currently running 2 Kessil A360WE on my 2ft cube and my SPS either lose colour by turning brown, lose polyp extension or grow very very slowly if not at all. I'm thinking of adding 2 T5s either side of the Kessils, do you think this would be overkill for my sized aquarium?

My current light cycle is below which I have implemented 3 days ago as in my old cycle I wasn't giving enough intensity for long enough.

Colour Intensity

11:00 0% 5%
13:00 10% 35%
14:00 50% 75%
19:00 50% 75%
20:00 30% 35%

Scorpius · 01/08/2016, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Logitek

I am currently running 2 Kessil A360WE on my 2ft cube and my SPS either lose colour by turning brown, lose polyp extension or grow very very slowly if not at all. I'm thinking of adding 2 T5s either side of the Kessils, do you think this would be overkill for my sized aquarium?

My current light cycle is below which I have implemented 3 days ago as in my old cycle I wasn't giving enough intensity for long enough.

Colour Intensity

11:00 0% 5%
13:00 10% 35%
14:00 50% 75%
19:00 50% 75%
20:00 30% 35%

I run my 360we's bluer and lower intensity. I'd lower intensity. I go no higher than 40% intensity on my 21in deep tank. I have an acropora that is growing like crazy with insane polyp extension.

Logitek · 01/09/2016, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorpius

I run my 360we's bluer and lower intensity. I'd lower intensity. I go no higher than 40% intensity on my 21in deep tank. I have an acropora that is growing like crazy with insane polyp extension.

I see. Must be something else then and not my lighting. I cannot pin point what's causing my SPS to do so badly in comparison to my other corals, all water params are fine etc...

amcvay1979 · 01/13/2016, 11:43 AM

I'll be the first to admit, I'm kind of wishing I didn't get sold on the LED hype and just went with a big T5 fixture, but I went with 2 AI Hyrda 52's instead. If I would have done 3 or 4 52's I think it would be awesome, but mounting them was done prior to the tank having water in it and now I can't get behind the stand to mount 2 more rail systems for 2 more lights, so I'm kind of stuck. I'd really like to add t5 to my LED's and I think that's where the magic would really happen.

Don't get me wrong, my reef is growing and is bright, but I feel like there's too many variables and control points with my lights at least. There is something to be said for having on/off switches and using the correct bulbs, but I didn't want the time and expense of changing bulbs, etc.

Scorpius · 01/13/2016, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by amcvay1979

I'll be the first to admit, I'm kind of wishing I didn't get sold on the LED hype and just went with a big T5 fixture, but I went with 2 AI Hyrda 52's instead. If I would have done 3 or 4 52's I think it would be awesome, but mounting them was done prior to the tank having water in it and now I can't get behind the stand to mount 2 more rail systems for 2 more lights, so I'm kind of stuck. I'd really like to add t5 to my LED's and I think that's where the magic would really happen.

Don't get me wrong, my reef is growing and is bright, but I feel like there's too many variables and control points with my lights at least. There is something to be said for having on/off switches and using the correct bulbs, but I didn't want the time and expense of changing bulbs, etc.

Hence why I love my Kessil A360's. Set the intensity and color I like, but keep the correct spectrum for corals. Bam. Success.

kelser01 · 01/13/2016, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by terry4505

I am waiting on my 3rd Kessil to arrive next week to finish off my hybrid fixture. I too love my Kessils, but believe T5 is necessary:

What light fixture is this?

Thanks!

12/30/2015, 02:22 PM	#54
fishresponse Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 644	Sorry - the OP Coelli. Thx __________________ –Andy 265g w/ 20" synergy overflow box Hamilton Cebu MH/T5 fixture w/ 250w Radium bulbs SPS/LPS mix \| 30g (long) refugium with cheato \| 40g sump

12/30/2015, 02:54 PM	#57
fishresponse Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 644	Got it - thx. I was having the same shadowing problem with an ecotech I had. Glad to see the positive response from your corals with the T5 addition. __________________ –Andy 265g w/ 20" synergy overflow box Hamilton Cebu MH/T5 fixture w/ 250w Radium bulbs SPS/LPS mix \| 30g (long) refugium with cheato \| 40g sump

01/07/2016, 01:10 PM	#59
Scorpius Stick Head Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 1,208	Added a third Kessil A360we to my 36in long tank. I angled the two outer units inward and the shadowing is greatly reduced and overall diffused lighting has increased. So you need one Kessil per foot of tank for the wide series which is one foot less per what Kessil says they can cover. __________________ Current Tank 65gal DSA rimless. Vortech MP-10 x4 Vectra M1. Kessil A360we x3 4-24in T5's. BRS 2 part LPS/SPS mixed reef. Will do ______ for Acropora.

12/30/2015, 02:50 PM	#56
Celtic_Fox Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Fremont CA Posts: 83	Is shading really an issue? I thought there was at least some energy exchange amongst the organisms in the same coral mass?

01/07/2016, 09:36 PM	#60
Tarawa Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 245	I have an old 36" coralife t5 fixture I used back on my FW tank, what kind of bulbs would you run to supplement LEDs?

01/08/2016, 06:26 AM	#61
gjxhj Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 4	I'm thinking about doing the same thing. I'm currently running two Kessils, but have been trying to decide if I should add a two bulb fixture to the front of the tank or just go with a six bulb fixture and ditch the Kessil's. Could you post a pic of how you currently have all your light mounted?

01/08/2016, 07:56 AM	#62
Logitek Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 29	I am currently running 2 Kessil A360WE on my 2ft cube and my SPS either lose colour by turning brown, lose polyp extension or grow very very slowly if not at all. I'm thinking of adding 2 T5s either side of the Kessils, do you think this would be overkill for my sized aquarium? My current light cycle is below which I have implemented 3 days ago as in my old cycle I wasn't giving enough intensity for long enough. Colour Intensity 11:00 0% 5% 13:00 10% 35% 14:00 50% 75% 19:00 50% 75% 20:00 30% 35%

01/13/2016, 11:43 AM	#65
amcvay1979 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Iowa Posts: 426	I'll be the first to admit, I'm kind of wishing I didn't get sold on the LED hype and just went with a big T5 fixture, but I went with 2 AI Hyrda 52's instead. If I would have done 3 or 4 52's I think it would be awesome, but mounting them was done prior to the tank having water in it and now I can't get behind the stand to mount 2 more rail systems for 2 more lights, so I'm kind of stuck. I'd really like to add t5 to my LED's and I think that's where the magic would really happen. Don't get me wrong, my reef is growing and is bright, but I feel like there's too many variables and control points with my lights at least. There is something to be said for having on/off switches and using the correct bulbs, but I didn't want the time and expense of changing bulbs, etc.