Who has the most species of Tangs in their tank? - Page 3

mickyfin · 04/27/2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by REEFERINDC
Think I can add a naso to my 125.I have 2 tangs so far:Orange shoulder(4"),scopas(3"),pair of clowns(1.5"),school of chromis(7),lawnmower blenny(2")? I have a 55 gallon sump so total water volume is about 180 gallons.

Nope.

twon8 · 04/27/2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by mickyfin
Nope.

if the 125 is six feet that would be beneficial, but that still is a lot of tang for a 125. naso's get BIG, I know someone who has one in a 90, but he knows he will soon have to find a new home.

REEFERINDC · 04/27/2006, 01:02 PM

It is a six footer

jimmy n · 04/27/2006, 01:17 PM

My biggest problem with adding tangs is other tangs, so if you can add them at the same time there is usually no issue.

I had a powder blue for almost a year that just up and died on me one morning, and I had a tang free 240. I ordered a clown, orange shoulder and purple tang that never even fought for a second.

When I move again and start my next big tank, I think I'll wait about 6 months while the tank matures and then add any tangs I want at that time. It was a very stress free way to introduce the tangs.

whiirly · 04/27/2006, 01:27 PM

I have a
Yellow
Hippo
Cole
Red Sea sail fin
and a fox face
all went in at seperate times and the only one I had problems with was the kole picking on the RS but it only lasted a few days

whiirly · 04/27/2006, 01:36 PM

Dont they look happy

By the way I LOVE MY TANGS If I could afford it I too would have a tank big enuf to put all species of tang into it they are the coolest

VSpeck · 04/27/2006, 01:51 PM

I have a 7' 200 gal w/ a 8"naso, 6" blue , sailfin, purple, misc. tang and a baby vlamingii. The Vlamingii is growing quick. the naso and vlamingii will outgrow the tank but i am working on getting a house within 6 mos so i can get a bigger tank the all get along awesome i always add new tangs at night w/ lights off so all are in thier places and dont fight and all has gone well also in the tank magnificent foxface chryserus (sp.?) angel and emp. angel.

tank was just moved so sump wasnt set up all the way yet and rock wasnt stacked.

Crusty Old Shellback · 04/27/2006, 01:59 PM

I have:
pair of Naos's, 11" male & 8" female
13" Female Vlamingi
9" sailfin
5" pacific bule hippo.

All of this in a 400G tank. Other fish include a 8" pink tale trigger, 7" scribbled foxface, 5" wantanabi angel, a few wrasese's, two madrins, 3 royal gramma's, sunburst antheias and a pink square back anthias.

copps · 04/27/2006, 02:16 PM

In my display I have...

Tomini
Black
Purple
Yellow
Hippo
powder blue/goldrim hybrid

...many I've grown from babies

I've got a few other tangs in different systems, including a jewel tang that keeps my 6 foot frag tank clean... these things can EAT!

I'm uncomfortable with having any Naso genus or larger Acanthurus genus (clown, sohal etc.) until I upgrade to an 8' x 4' 600 gallon...

With flash under actinics only...

Tomini and yellow in 65 display a couple of years ago...

Purple and hippo in 54 corner display years ago and very tiny...

Julio · 04/27/2006, 02:25 PM

SHOW OFF! I love your tanks

But check out this beauty of 20K gallons that joe has, you can even see him in the back.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/showp...t=1&thecat=500

copps · 04/27/2006, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Julio
SHOW OFF! I love your tanks

But check out this beauty of 20K gallons that joe has, you can even see him in the back.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/showp...t=1&thecat=500

Hey Julio... that system definately falls under the category of "things I'd do if I won $10 million plus in the lotto"...

Thanks again for guinea piggin' the bimaculatus!

Cutiewitbooty · 04/27/2006, 02:46 PM

yeah i could see myself doing that with 10 million lol

NAGA · 04/27/2006, 03:36 PM

copps,

that is truely spectacular! I am in Annapolis..........you open to the idea of having visitors? If so, where in VA are you?

copps · 04/27/2006, 03:45 PM

Hey Naga... I was at the table with you CMAS guys at MACNA last year... I know George pretty well... I had a minor meltdown in January while I was away on business and lost some sps, but all fish are fine and the tank is rebounding... I'm in Leesburg... not too far from you, and you're welcome to come by this summer after things grow in a bit again and we return from vacation. I'll be in touch with you, and thanks!

shookbrad · 04/27/2006, 06:10 PM

Ok I have 1 Yellow and 1 Purple tang in a 90 Gallon. I would like to add a clown and a blue tang next. Would I be best off adding them at the same time?

Johnsteph10 · 04/27/2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by shookbrad
Ok I have 1 Yellow and 1 Purple tang in a 90 Gallon. I would like to add a clown and a blue tang next. Would I be best off adding them at the same time?

Too many tangs in a 90g. The yellow and purple are pushing it if you don't plan on upgrading in the short future.

NAGA · 04/27/2006, 08:48 PM

copps, yes I remember the MACNA table. You were sitting off to my right one person over I think. Sounds good when your ready I would love to head on over.

I just got word that I am on the CMAS tank tour July 30th. Would love to have you over if you can make it.

Shookbrad, extremely unlikely you would be able to do any of those tangs. With a Yellow and a Purple you have two of the more aggressive/dominant tangs out there. Together they aren't going to let much in by way of tangs.

Cutiewitbooty · 04/28/2006, 08:48 AM

yeah don't add any more. These people with all the tangs have very large tanks, thats why they are able to do it.

E-A-G-L-E-S · 04/28/2006, 08:55 AM

copps....if you only wanted to keep one male blonde naso with some small fish only(chromis/anthias) as the only big guy..........................what would be the minimum tank size - iyo?

shookbrad · 04/28/2006, 09:56 AM

What would happen If I just added a Clown Tang? Here is what my reef looks like. Both existing Yellow and purple tangs are small

E-A-G-L-E-S · 04/28/2006, 09:58 AM

no clown tang for a 90g.....i wouldn't even put one in my 210g
two tangs is more than enough for a 90g

shookbrad · 04/28/2006, 10:05 AM

Ok, So no Clown Tang.
Does anyone have any suggestion as to what is another good fish. I am looking for something of the same size and beauty as the clown tang.

copps · 04/28/2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by E-A-G-L-E-S
copps....if you only wanted to keep one male blonde naso with some small fish only(chromis/anthias) as the only big guy..........................what would be the minimum tank size - iyo?

I wouldn't feel comfortable in anything less than an 8 foot tank long term... what made me formulate this opinion is not the shear need for room like some of the larger Acanthurus species, but rather the growth rate and size of Naso genus tangs... they grow large and fast...

Quote:

Originally posted by shookbrad
What would happen If I just added a Clown Tang? Here is what my reef looks like. Both existing Yellow and purple tangs are small

Just to further drive the point home take a look at the May 2004 TOTM here ... a quote from that article...
:"The clown tang, which is very impressive but also extremely territorial, is the dominant inhabitant, and his dominance makes it difficult for us to add additional fish."

This is in a 340 gallon tank... four times your size and coincidentally also with just a yellow and a purple...

People mistakenly group all tangs together, when in reality there is great differences between and with each genus... Most of the "tang police" base their opinions on hings they've read, when those who base their opinions on first-hand experience are truly looking out for the tangs best interests, whether that person have 20 years firsthand experience or just 6 months... it's firsthand nonetheless... the misinformation in this hobby is unfortunately abundant...

shookbrad beautiful system! I strongly recommend a group of a few of the hardier smaller anthias... like Bartlett's or lyretails... they are beautiful and prove to be good "dither" fish, allowing usually more timid species to show their face more often... Not sure what you mean on a fish the "size of a clown tang" in your 90...

shookbrad · 04/28/2006, 02:34 PM

John,
Thanks for the reply and warning. I think after everyone's suggestions I will not get a clown tang. When I said same size I was refering to a fish about the size of the adult clown tang about 8".
I would like 1 large fish in the system if their is one that can go in a 90.

VSpeck · 04/28/2006, 04:25 PM

clowns can get up to 15" thats way too much for a 90

04/27/2006, 01:02 PM	#53
REEFERINDC Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Washington,D.C. Posts: 175	Thanks It is a six footer

04/27/2006, 01:27 PM	#55
whiirly Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Orland Park ILL Posts: 3,177	I have a Yellow Hippo Cole Red Sea sail fin and a fox face all went in at seperate times and the only one I had problems with was the kole picking on the RS but it only lasted a few days __________________ Whiirly A.K.A The One and ONLY:)> Current Tank Info: 180 might as well be a FOWLR

04/27/2006, 01:36 PM	#56
whiirly Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Orland Park ILL Posts: 3,177	Dont they look happy By the way I LOVE MY TANGS If I could afford it I too would have a tank big enuf to put all species of tang into it they are the coolest __________________ Whiirly A.K.A The One and ONLY:)> Current Tank Info: 180 might as well be a FOWLR

04/27/2006, 01:51 PM	#57
VSpeck Slash Smack Talker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wright City, MO Posts: 4,116	I have a 7' 200 gal w/ a 8"naso, 6" blue , sailfin, purple, misc. tang and a baby vlamingii. The Vlamingii is growing quick. the naso and vlamingii will outgrow the tank but i am working on getting a house within 6 mos so i can get a bigger tank the all get along awesome i always add new tangs at night w/ lights off so all are in thier places and dont fight and all has gone well also in the tank magnificent foxface chryserus (sp.?) angel and emp. angel. tank was just moved so sump wasnt set up all the way yet and rock wasnt stacked. __________________ Ask DSmack about his momma... Current Tank Info: 150g African

04/27/2006, 01:59 PM	#58
Crusty Old Shellback MASVC OG Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Home of the FREE, Thanks to the BRAVE! Posts: 5,089	I have: pair of Naos's, 11" male & 8" female 13" Female Vlamingi 9" sailfin 5" pacific bule hippo. All of this in a 400G tank. Other fish include a 8" pink tale trigger, 7" scribbled foxface, 5" wantanabi angel, a few wrasese's, two madrins, 3 royal gramma's, sunburst antheias and a pink square back anthias. __________________ Have you THANKED a Veteran lately for the freedoms you take for granted each day? Best quote ever! "This is a hobby for God sakes and so many people get so uptite. A "hobby" so it should be fun and not a cause to worry or go broke." Paul B Current Tank Info: Tankless for a while. RIP my 8+ yr old pair of Naso tangs, 4 + yr old Moorish Idol

04/27/2006, 01:17 PM	#54
jimmy n Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,256	My biggest problem with adding tangs is other tangs, so if you can add them at the same time there is usually no issue. I had a powder blue for almost a year that just up and died on me one morning, and I had a tang free 240. I ordered a clown, orange shoulder and purple tang that never even fought for a second. When I move again and start my next big tank, I think I'll wait about 6 months while the tank matures and then add any tangs I want at that time. It was a very stress free way to introduce the tangs.

04/27/2006, 02:16 PM	#59
copps Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,679	In my display I have... Tomini Black Purple Yellow Hippo powder blue/goldrim hybrid ...many I've grown from babies I've got a few other tangs in different systems, including a jewel tang that keeps my 6 foot frag tank clean... these things can EAT! I'm uncomfortable with having any Naso genus or larger Acanthurus genus (clown, sohal etc.) until I upgrade to an 8' x 4' 600 gallon... With flash under actinics only... Tomini and yellow in 65 display a couple of years ago... Purple and hippo in 54 corner display years ago and very tiny... __________________ - John Coppolino September '04 RC TOTM January '11 RC TOTM Buy fish that excite YOU, and respect others' passions. Yes, we know, there's a cheaper and prettier fish than the one we’re talking about. Current Tank Info: displays are 1300 gallon SPS (8.5' x 6' x 42"), 240 gallon anemone, and 350 gallon fish only

04/27/2006, 02:25 PM	#60
Julio Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New york Posts: 7,978	SHOW OFF! I love your tanks But check out this beauty of 20K gallons that joe has, you can even see him in the back. http://reefcentral.com/gallery/showp...t=1&thecat=500 __________________ Thanks, Have a nice day. Julio Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef w/ 250 watt SE XM10Ks and AP1003, 12 gallon reef, 40 gallon reef

04/27/2006, 02:46 PM	#62
Cutiewitbooty Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alaska For 18 Years, Now Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 2,795	yeah i could see myself doing that with 10 million lol __________________ WARNING: Taking my advice may result in personal injury and/or jail time. ~Amber~

04/27/2006, 03:36 PM	#63
NAGA Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 416	copps, that is truely spectacular! I am in Annapolis..........you open to the idea of having visitors? If so, where in VA are you? __________________ NAGA Current Tank Info: none

04/27/2006, 03:45 PM	#64
copps Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,679	Hey Naga... I was at the table with you CMAS guys at MACNA last year... I know George pretty well... I had a minor meltdown in January while I was away on business and lost some sps, but all fish are fine and the tank is rebounding... I'm in Leesburg... not too far from you, and you're welcome to come by this summer after things grow in a bit again and we return from vacation. I'll be in touch with you, and thanks! __________________ - John Coppolino September '04 RC TOTM January '11 RC TOTM Buy fish that excite YOU, and respect others' passions. Yes, we know, there's a cheaper and prettier fish than the one we’re talking about. Current Tank Info: displays are 1300 gallon SPS (8.5' x 6' x 42"), 240 gallon anemone, and 350 gallon fish only

04/27/2006, 06:10 PM	#65
shookbrad Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Odessa, TX Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 1	Adding new tangs Ok I have 1 Yellow and 1 Purple tang in a 90 Gallon. I would like to add a clown and a blue tang next. Would I be best off adding them at the same time?

04/27/2006, 08:48 PM	#67
NAGA Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 416	copps, yes I remember the MACNA table. You were sitting off to my right one person over I think. Sounds good when your ready I would love to head on over. I just got word that I am on the CMAS tank tour July 30th. Would love to have you over if you can make it. Shookbrad, extremely unlikely you would be able to do any of those tangs. With a Yellow and a Purple you have two of the more aggressive/dominant tangs out there. Together they aren't going to let much in by way of tangs. __________________ NAGA Current Tank Info: none

04/28/2006, 08:48 AM	#68
Cutiewitbooty Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alaska For 18 Years, Now Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 2,795	yeah don't add any more. These people with all the tangs have very large tanks, thats why they are able to do it. __________________ WARNING: Taking my advice may result in personal injury and/or jail time. ~Amber~

04/28/2006, 08:55 AM	#69
E-A-G-L-E-S Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 7,038	copps....if you only wanted to keep one male blonde naso with some small fish only(chromis/anthias) as the only big guy..........................what would be the minimum tank size - iyo? __________________ Smug Egotistical Contemptuous It's difficult to get a man to understand something that his salary requires him not to.

04/28/2006, 09:56 AM	#70
shookbrad Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Odessa, TX Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 1	What would happen If I just added a Clown Tang? Here is what my reef looks like. Both existing Yellow and purple tangs are small

04/28/2006, 09:58 AM	#71
E-A-G-L-E-S Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 7,038	no clown tang for a 90g.....i wouldn't even put one in my 210g two tangs is more than enough for a 90g __________________ Smug Egotistical Contemptuous It's difficult to get a man to understand something that his salary requires him not to.

04/28/2006, 10:05 AM	#72
shookbrad Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Odessa, TX Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 1	Ok, So no Clown Tang. Does anyone have any suggestion as to what is another good fish. I am looking for something of the same size and beauty as the clown tang.

04/28/2006, 02:34 PM	#74
shookbrad Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Odessa, TX Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 1	John, Thanks for the reply and warning. I think after everyone's suggestions I will not get a clown tang. When I said same size I was refering to a fish about the size of the adult clown tang about 8". I would like 1 large fish in the system if their is one that can go in a 90.

04/28/2006, 04:25 PM	#75
VSpeck Slash Smack Talker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wright City, MO Posts: 4,116	clowns can get up to 15" thats way too much for a 90 __________________ Ask DSmack about his momma... Current Tank Info: 150g African