New wavemaker- awesome!!! - Page 31

seeker · 05/07/2004, 06:39 PM

I just threaded 1" PVC with pipe thread.... worked great!

Seeker

DerekW · 05/07/2004, 08:26 PM

Hey if you can make these things, you must be able to make loc line? I doubt they have any patents on it.

Zephrant · 05/07/2004, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by AcroSteve
Does anybody know a good supply for threaded street 45's to slip fittings?

McMaster-Carr has threaded M-F 45's(1"=46885K104), but no MPT-Slip. They also have FPT-FPT 45's(1"=4596K24).

You can also take a 1" slip 45 (4881K33) and glue in a half nipple (9173K35) to make what you want.

All the above is gray sch-80 PVC.

Been shopping their catalog for fittings all night.

Zeph

AcroSteve · 05/08/2004, 02:52 AM

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Originally posted by Zephrant
All the above is gray sch-80 PVC.

Zeph

Thanks for the research. I will definitely get my book out and check it. Just be aware of the slightly smaller than the ID of sch-40, so there will be a little more restriction. Not sure the actual difference.

David P · 05/08/2004, 10:29 AM

Hey Paul, I just got my HD 4way yesterday. Thanx a million for expressing it to me! One question though. I wanted to get familler with it before I plumb it up. What sort of special sockets do you use for taking out those two nylon bolts? My Snap On sockets wont fit in the recessed hole... is it metric or standard, and what size? If I have to turn down a socket, I only want to machine one!

hammerhead · 05/08/2004, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by David P
Hey Paul, I just got my HD 4way yesterday. Thanx a million for expressing it to me! One question though. I wanted to get familler with it before I plumb it up. What sort of special sockets do you use for taking out those two nylon bolts? My Snap On sockets wont fit in the recessed hole... is it metric or standard, and what size? If I have to turn down a socket, I only want to machine one!

He told me he just uses a slotted Screw driver. I had a problem with my unit and he took care of me on the spot.. Paid for the return shipping and shipped me a new unit.What a pleasure to do business with.

MarkM3 · 05/09/2004, 02:01 AM

David P > my craftsman fit in no problem, cant remember the size (1/2"?)

mane3215 · 05/11/2004, 11:58 AM

I may have missed it but what are the dimensions of the 8 way and the 4 way unit? I seen their weight, but not dimensions. Can they be mounted upside down if need be?

David P · 05/11/2004, 06:55 PM

the 4 way is about 4" diameter and with motor about 7" tall. The 4 way could be mounted any way you want...

golf nut · 05/13/2004, 08:44 PM

Hi mane3215.

I guess you could mount it any way you wish, the only issue would be if you decided to swap out the drum for a different flow pattern then it would make sense to make access simple, I recommend that it is installed above the water line in the normal way, this saves installing ball valves on each outlet so as not too drain the tank during drum changes etc. any reason to run it outside the norm?

hth

Paul

mane3215 · 05/13/2004, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by golf nut
Hi mane3215.

I guess you could mount it any way you wish, the only issue would be if you decided to swap out the drum for a different flow pattern then it would make sense to make access simple, I recommend that it is installed above the water line in the normal way, this saves installing ball valves on each outlet so as not too drain the tank during drum changes etc. any reason to run it outside the norm?

hth

Paul

Currently I am going to order a 75g 30x24x24 tank. I am waiting to get this device straight (my planning) before I do so. I am planning on two holes just below the euro bracing for returns to run below eurobrace and drop toward the middle or front of tank with a revolution on each.

Then I will need two other returns drilled into the back for the other two outlets, and one intake. I haven't decided on the placement of any of there. Over flow will be int he center.

I want to have a very clean setup, and it will be open top so I don't want the unit behind the tank above the water line. I will be going through anything I can to cram everything inside the stand which will probably be about 30x31 or so. I wanted to mount the 8 way (since its flat) upside down on the bottom of the top of the stand (if that makes sense, the top being where the tank would be sitting, unit on the underside) as well as the pump if its ok per the manufacturer (if not I could build a bump out ledge on the back. I only wanted minimal plumbing (3 pipes down on the lower end of tank for two returns one intake) and two up top (the two returns under eurobracing).

I guess this is a long winded explanation for me trying to say I want the absolute tightest neatest setup possible. =). What do you think? The 4 way being round and not flat I think would make this more difficult.

Lunchbucket · 05/13/2004, 11:09 PM

Paul, i LOVE the unit and my corals do too! got them in there Monday...and they are healing up faster than EVER...and some changing color!!!

Lunchbucket

Travis · 05/14/2004, 12:17 PM

Does anyone know what type of tool to use to unscrew the plastic bolts to remove the drum? There is very little room between the bolt head and the recess that it is in. I was able to get mine apart using needle nose fishing pliers because the bolts aren't very tight but I'm just curious if there is a tool for the job.

golf nut · 05/14/2004, 12:34 PM

hey Travis

You should be able to use a craftsman 1/2" socket, I will be sending out some different screws and a tool shortly, all the new 4 ways have a different screw and tool included..hope this helps

ps the screws only need to be finger tight

Paul

s13silvia · 05/14/2004, 12:43 PM

call me lazy, but on the 8 way setup what size is the inlet? 1.5 or 2"

golf nut · 05/14/2004, 05:16 PM

Hi Lazy

It,s 1 1/2" you meant it literally right?

Serge · 05/16/2004, 07:57 PM

Hello Everyone!!!
I have a quick question about my wavemaker!!
Does anyone know if there is a way to change the direction that the drum turns, on my 8 way.
Has anyone done this, & if yes how?

NuReef · 05/16/2004, 08:24 PM

Can any one show plumbing pix of the 4 and or 8 way. It would help some of us that need visuals
Ricky

NuReef · 05/16/2004, 08:24 PM

Can any one show plumbing pix of the 4 and or 8 way. It would help some of us that need visuals
Ricky

Lunchbucket · 05/17/2004, 08:21 AM

look through all my pics

i believe there are pics on Pauls site also. others have posted on this thread too

Lunchbucket

AcroSteve · 05/17/2004, 06:02 PM

Paul,

In this pic, are the nipples theaded on the 8-way end and then slip on the 90?

The 8 way is so compact I am having trouble getting everything in there.

I think I will be getting a 1" npt die and cutting threads in my own pipe and making nipple adaptors.

weatherson · 05/17/2004, 06:35 PM

How about using a MPT end glued on to flex PVC pipe so you could still thread it in properly? The flexible pipe would allow you to bend it as needed to avoid runing into the other lines. Just a thought.

Joseph

hammerhead · 05/17/2004, 08:21 PM

I should be getting my custom fittings from Paul in a few days. I wish everyone did business like Paul.

wld1783 · 05/17/2004, 08:56 PM

Wow just what I need...

Any leaks???

Will the 4 way handle 15 psi using educators???

Bill

golf nut · 05/17/2004, 09:02 PM

Hey Steve

Exactly, I cut up Nipples as we call them In Canada threaded into the 8 Way and then slip 90"s from there.

Serge

Always thinking, good for you,!! You can attach a double pole double throw switch to the motor if you wish to change direction often, the instructions should be with the motor info sheet. If you just want it to go in the opposite direction you simply change a couple of leads.

Let me know if you need any other info.

Paul

05/07/2004, 08:26 PM	#752
DerekW Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Southern Ontario Posts: 873	Hey if you can make these things, you must be able to make loc line? I doubt they have any patents on it. __________________ Derek It's a small world........But I wouldn't want to paint it. Current Tank Info: 220, 4x250w mh, 4x110w actinics CS12-2 RC , 75 gallon sump, Calcium reactor, DIY 36" Kalkwasser reactor

05/08/2004, 10:29 AM	#755
David P Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Valencia, So Cal Posts: 3,288	Hey Paul, I just got my HD 4way yesterday. Thanx a million for expressing it to me! One question though. I wanted to get familler with it before I plumb it up. What sort of special sockets do you use for taking out those two nylon bolts? My Snap On sockets wont fit in the recessed hole... is it metric or standard, and what size? If I have to turn down a socket, I only want to machine one! __________________ I don't have to be nice, Im being honest Current Tank Info: 120g bare bottom, 250w de in ROIII+, Amp Master closed loop through Oceans Motion, 60g fuge

05/11/2004, 06:55 PM	#759
David P Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Valencia, So Cal Posts: 3,288	the 4 way is about 4" diameter and with motor about 7" tall. The 4 way could be mounted any way you want... __________________ I don't have to be nice, Im being honest Current Tank Info: 120g bare bottom, 250w de in ROIII+, Amp Master closed loop through Oceans Motion, 60g fuge

05/13/2004, 11:09 PM	#762
Lunchbucket Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 12,924	Paul, i LOVE the unit and my corals do too! got them in there Monday...and they are healing up faster than EVER...and some changing color!!! Lunchbucket __________________ Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter - Lunchbucket - "Nancy-Boy Extraordinaire" - maxxII- Current Tank Info: 58gal Oceanic RR, 2x400w MH (20k XM and 10k XM), Deltec PF601 Ca Rx, Deltec AP701 skimmer, mag950 return, iwaki 55rlt w/ an Oceansmotions 4-way unit, Tunze 7300 and 6000 each w/ controller, fluidized po4 rx

05/14/2004, 12:17 PM	#763
Travis 10 and over club Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,525	Does anyone know what type of tool to use to unscrew the plastic bolts to remove the drum? There is very little room between the bolt head and the recess that it is in. I was able to get mine apart using needle nose fishing pliers because the bolts aren't very tight but I'm just curious if there is a tool for the job. __________________ TOTM August 08 An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Current Tank Info: 280 sps w/ 75 LPS, 75 refugium, 120 sump

05/07/2004, 06:39 PM	#751
seeker Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 140	I just threaded 1" PVC with pipe thread.... worked great! Seeker

05/09/2004, 02:01 AM	#757
MarkM3 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 402	David P > my craftsman fit in no problem, cant remember the size (1/2"?)

05/11/2004, 11:58 AM	#758
mane3215 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 2,116	I may have missed it but what are the dimensions of the 8 way and the 4 way unit? I seen their weight, but not dimensions. Can they be mounted upside down if need be?

05/13/2004, 08:44 PM	#760
golf nut Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: just north of Toronto, Canada Posts: 481	Hi mane3215. I guess you could mount it any way you wish, the only issue would be if you decided to swap out the drum for a different flow pattern then it would make sense to make access simple, I recommend that it is installed above the water line in the normal way, this saves installing ball valves on each outlet so as not too drain the tank during drum changes etc. any reason to run it outside the norm? hth Paul

05/14/2004, 12:34 PM	#764
golf nut Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: just north of Toronto, Canada Posts: 481	hey Travis You should be able to use a craftsman 1/2" socket, I will be sending out some different screws and a tool shortly, all the new 4 ways have a different screw and tool included..hope this helps ps the screws only need to be finger tight Paul

05/14/2004, 12:43 PM	#765
s13silvia Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,744	call me lazy, but on the 8 way setup what size is the inlet? 1.5 or 2" __________________ Nam Current Tank Info: 30g Oceanic Cube, AquaC Remora skimmer, Aqua Medic Ocean Light 150w, Pan-World 50pxx, JBJ 1/5hp Artica Chiller

05/14/2004, 05:16 PM	#766
golf nut Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: just north of Toronto, Canada Posts: 481	Hi Lazy It,s 1 1/2" you meant it literally right?

05/16/2004, 07:57 PM	#767
Serge Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burlington Posts: 69	Hello Everyone!!! I have a quick question about my wavemaker!! Does anyone know if there is a way to change the direction that the drum turns, on my 8 way. Has anyone done this, & if yes how?

05/16/2004, 08:24 PM	#768
NuReef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 173	Can any one show plumbing pix of the 4 and or 8 way. It would help some of us that need visuals Ricky __________________ Every expert was once a beginner. Current Tank Info: 180 gal with bells, whistles and $$$ infinitum

05/16/2004, 08:24 PM	#769
NuReef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 173	Can any one show plumbing pix of the 4 and or 8 way. It would help some of us that need visuals Ricky __________________ Every expert was once a beginner. Current Tank Info: 180 gal with bells, whistles and $$$ infinitum

05/17/2004, 08:21 AM	#770
Lunchbucket Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 12,924	look through all my pics i believe there are pics on Pauls site also. others have posted on this thread too Lunchbucket __________________ Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter - Lunchbucket - "Nancy-Boy Extraordinaire" - maxxII- Current Tank Info: 58gal Oceanic RR, 2x400w MH (20k XM and 10k XM), Deltec PF601 Ca Rx, Deltec AP701 skimmer, mag950 return, iwaki 55rlt w/ an Oceansmotions 4-way unit, Tunze 7300 and 6000 each w/ controller, fluidized po4 rx

05/17/2004, 06:02 PM	#771
AcroSteve Make my Funk a P-Funk Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Electric Avenue Posts: 5,092	Paul, In this pic, are the nipples theaded on the 8-way end and then slip on the 90? The 8 way is so compact I am having trouble getting everything in there. I think I will be getting a 1" npt die and cutting threads in my own pipe and making nipple adaptors. __________________ **************** "Work hard, rock hard, eat hard, sleep hard, grow big, wear glasses if you need 'em." -- The Webb Wilder Credo -- don't go ninjin' nobody that don't need ninjin'! Current Tank Info: 220g custom plywood. SPS heavy with Sequence Hammerhead return with 4-Way OM. Tunze 6100, 6200 and Wavebox. 5000btu DIY Chiller. Lighting is 10K mh 250W / VHO Actinic Skimer - H&S A200-2x1260

05/17/2004, 06:35 PM	#772
weatherson Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,022	How about using a MPT end glued on to flex PVC pipe so you could still thread it in properly? The flexible pipe would allow you to bend it as needed to avoid runing into the other lines. Just a thought. Joseph

05/17/2004, 08:21 PM	#773
hammerhead Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Santa Clara,Ca Posts: 3,108	I should be getting my custom fittings from Paul in a few days. I wish everyone did business like Paul. __________________ Michael PH 8.2 DKH 10 CAL 480 SG 1.025 Current Tank Info: New 95g cube being setup

05/17/2004, 08:56 PM	#774
wld1783 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Park Ridge Posts: 2,232	Wow just what I need... Any leaks??? Will the 4 way handle 15 psi using educators??? Bill

05/17/2004, 09:02 PM	#775
golf nut Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: just north of Toronto, Canada Posts: 481	Hey Steve Exactly, I cut up Nipples as we call them In Canada threaded into the 8 Way and then slip 90"s from there. Serge Always thinking, good for you,!! You can attach a double pole double throw switch to the motor if you wish to change direction often, the instructions should be with the motor info sheet. If you just want it to go in the opposite direction you simply change a couple of leads. Let me know if you need any other info. Paul