ETSS Skimmer Club! - Page 32

Alex T. · 08/25/2010, 11:35 AM

I was thinking of running ozone in my sps reef and wanted to know how many of you run ozone directly into the ETSS air intake. Any advice/suggestions. I have an extender tower on my 600 XR and run it off a Blueline 55hd. Pulls a lot of gunk...just looking for that little extra something that ozone can deliver.

Gill_bucket · 10/19/2010, 09:13 PM

Hey guys here is mine. I think it is an older 600 but not really sure??? I plan on plumbing it external I just have to work up the guts to drill my sump. This is only a couple minutes after setup it needed a little more tunning but now the waste water is much darker

Gill_bucket · 10/19/2010, 09:35 PM

So the bio balls are supposed to be in the down draft tube??? Mine are in the box.

NeonFish · 10/19/2010, 10:38 PM

Other than the $200 difference between ETSS 800XR and ETSS 700 Refugium. What makes the 800 better than the 700. Tank size seems to be equivalent.

Gill_bucket · 10/23/2010, 07:31 PM

So I have noticed this guy will be trucking right along and then the bubbles will collapse. If I just leave it alone everything comes back but it takes hours. Anyone know why it does this?

taklein65 · 10/24/2010, 01:55 PM

Feeding will cause this so will some additives and putting your hands in the tank to work.

Gill_bucket · 10/24/2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by taklein65

Feeding will cause this so will some additives and putting your hands in the tank to work.

So it's when oils are introduced to the tank? Do all skimmers do this? I like to feed small amounts several times a day

taklein65 · 10/24/2010, 08:55 PM

yes it happens in all skimmers.

Gill_bucket · 10/24/2010, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taklein65

yes it happens in all skimmers.

oh ok thanks for the info I will just let it do it's thing.

jjk_reef00 · 10/25/2010, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NeonFish

Other than the $200 difference between ETSS 800XR and ETSS 700 Refugium. What makes the 800 better than the 700. Tank size seems to be equivalent.

800 has 2 downdraft towers, which will let you use a more powerful pump to skim better

NeonFish · 11/05/2010, 01:05 AM

Thanks. I noticed that the 900 is a little cheaper, but is also taller. Since my sump is actually 20' down in the garage, I have plenty of room for it. I have about 300gal in the system. Use to have 3 skimmers one for each tank, now I only want one in the sump. Is the 900 overkill?

NeonFish · 11/05/2010, 02:07 AM

Is it possible to generate enough pressure via gravity? I have drains going down about 20'. Water is pumped up using Coralife external P-1100. Really don't want another pump.

jmoney · 11/20/2010, 02:34 PM

no, it is not possible to create enough pressure that way. The bioballs, must go into the tower for them to work properly. You must use a pressure rated pump for the skimmer to work properly. If you do all these things, your skimmer will work so well, that loosing foam for an hour or so won't matter, a properly set up etss has the capability, and many people have reported that their skimmer will stop skimming at some points in the day, not because something is wrong, but they already have a 1/2 gallon or more of skimmate and their tank is "clean"

ballball · 01/08/2011, 12:00 PM

glad to know this thread
i live in hong kong, using evo500
i guess i need to change bioballs.
do all think the brand of bioball ( other then ETSS) important, as I have difficulty in getting in touch with AE tech...cant buy the original bioballs.

mitchwelt · 01/22/2011, 09:01 AM

i have an etss 800 on a 125 mixed reef, been running like crap, so i took it apart and cleaned the intake that was clogged severly, put it back online and now even with the exit gatevalve open wide it bubbles upto the etss label on the clear tube, and also the air intake i put 3 foot of tube on and it now still sounds like a hurricane wind, didint before i cleaned, i left it overnight and got a gallon of saltwater in my collection bucket, no skimmate, it has a iwaki55 running it also, and is external run

rigleautomotive · 01/22/2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchwelt

i have an etss 800 on a 125 mixed reef, been running like crap, so i took it apart and cleaned the intake that was clogged severly, put it back online and now even with the exit gatevalve open wide it bubbles upto the etss label on the clear tube, and also the air intake i put 3 foot of tube on and it now still sounds like a hurricane wind, didint before i cleaned, i left it overnight and got a gallon of saltwater in my collection bucket, no skimmate, it has a iwaki55 running it also, and is external run

Your skimmer looks to be working great.Your tank is probably loaded with proteins from the air intake being restricted for some time and the skimmer working at less then optimal performance.These skimmers will skim very wet until they get control of your DOC then return to a more manageable level.You can turn the valve down a bit coming off your pump and throttle the intake GPH down a bit until your tank gets a bit cleaner and then slowly start to open it back up as the foam head gets lower in the reaction chamber
Also if the balls are old I would suggest a new set installed,they tend to make a finer foam then old ones for some reason.

FYI most needle wheel skimmer users would love to be able to throttle there skimmers up like this to get them to wet skim but there design tends to make them idle consistently but not allow the ability to crank it up like these downdraft skimmers.

johnnyb05 · 01/22/2011, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchwelt

i have an etss 800 on a 125 mixed reef, been running like crap, so i took it apart and cleaned the intake that was clogged severly, put it back online and now even with the exit gatevalve open wide it bubbles upto the etss label on the clear tube, and also the air intake i put 3 foot of tube on and it now still sounds like a hurricane wind, didint before i cleaned, i left it overnight and got a gallon of saltwater in my collection bucket, no skimmate, it has a iwaki55 running it also, and is external run

johnnyb05 · 01/22/2011, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchwelt

i have an etss 800 on a 125 mixed reef, been running like crap, so i took it apart and cleaned the intake that was clogged severly, put it back online and now even with the exit gatevalve open wide it bubbles upto the etss label on the clear tube, and also the air intake i put 3 foot of tube on and it now still sounds like a hurricane wind, didint before i cleaned, i left it overnight and got a gallon of saltwater in my collection bucket, no skimmate, it has a iwaki55 running it also, and is external run

looks pretty good to me. if your getting to much foam just throttle back the feed pump a little. i have a older reef devil lll and i removed the gate valve (because i always leave it wide open) and put the gate on the output of my feed pump. this gives me fine control. i have run it that way for 11 years. also where the gate valve was i put a elbow in place of it. the only reason i mention it is that every fitting added or removed adds back pressure or removes some. this does affect the skimmer alot. i found that it runs best with no back pressure, or very little on the output of skimmer.

johnnyb05 · 01/22/2011, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gill_bucket

Hey guys here is mine. I think it is an older 600 but not really sure??? I plan on plumbing it external I just have to work up the guts to drill my sump. This is only a couple minutes after setup it needed a little more tunning but now the waste water is much darker

iam pretty sure thats a reef devil, because i have the same one. i found that running 14 mini bioballs about 6" from top of tower works great. anything less then 4" seems to hurt foam production. tie the first bioball to some fishing line ( 20 pound test is about right) and the other end to old foam gasket from a RO filter. you will be able to adjust the high of the bioballs very easy now.

jfl14609 · 01/25/2011, 02:30 PM

Wow mega thread here with some great info. I have a etss 600 and just got a 800 i have one question the 600 doesn't have bio balls but it has something that looks like a mixing educator and the 800 doesn't is that some type of a mod?

rigleautomotive · 01/25/2011, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfl14609

Wow mega thread here with some great info. I have a etss 600 and just got a 800 i have one question the 600 doesn't have bio balls but it has something that looks like a mixing educator and the 800 doesn't is that some type of a mod?

Yes the common mod for a downdraft incorporates a becket injector or similar and the removal of some or all the balls.I am not convinced it is any better then the original design and I use balls in both of mine.Changing the balls periodically keeps these skimmers working great so I did not see any better performance from the modded ones I have personally seen .

Edward Smith · 01/29/2011, 04:07 PM

I clean the top two sections of the tower every weekend using hot water from the sink faucet sprayer and rubbing with my hand. It's squeaky clean when done.

Is is possible to over clean it?

From the manual: "1) Cleaning should be done only with a soft sponge and some fresh water to lightly remove build up on the neck and skimmer riser. A harsh cleaning will cause the skimmer to have a mini-break in again. Avoid this if possible. "

jjk_reef00 · 01/30/2011, 07:54 PM

As long as your skimmer is working, I don't see anything wrong with your cleaning schedule.

bif24701 · 01/31/2011, 12:49 AM

I ordered my Protean 400 Deluxe System w/ Sump Buddy 40 should be here soon. Has anyone used this system? Any tips for set you can offer?

tonythefish · 02/15/2011, 10:16 AM

I have a 600 old style and it is about 1 foot above the water level of the sump . The return from the 600 is about 2" above the water line but makes a lot of water noise . Can you dip the return line into the water to make it quite ? I have tried this but seems to change levels in the 600 . I am worried as my sump level goes up and down it will effect the level or performance of the 600 ..

01/22/2011, 09:01 AM	#790
mitchwelt tool repair man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: tamarac, fl Posts: 2,005	i have an etss 800 on a 125 mixed reef, been running like crap, so i took it apart and cleaned the intake that was clogged severly, put it back online and now even with the exit gatevalve open wide it bubbles upto the etss label on the clear tube, and also the air intake i put 3 foot of tube on and it now still sounds like a hurricane wind, didint before i cleaned, i left it overnight and got a gallon of saltwater in my collection bucket, no skimmate, it has a iwaki55 running it also, and is external run Last edited by mitchwelt; 01/22/2011 at 09:08 AM.

01/29/2011, 04:07 PM	#797
Edward Smith Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Saint Charles, IL Posts: 3,071	Cleaning an ETSS 1400 XR I clean the top two sections of the tower every weekend using hot water from the sink faucet sprayer and rubbing with my hand. It's squeaky clean when done. Is is possible to over clean it? From the manual: "1) Cleaning should be done only with a soft sponge and some fresh water to lightly remove build up on the neck and skimmer riser. A harsh cleaning will cause the skimmer to have a mini-break in again. Avoid this if possible. " __________________ "Hi, my name is Ed and I'm a reefaholic" "Hi Ed" Current Tank Info: 24g Zeroedge (rules), 150g (to be unveiled soon)

01/30/2011, 07:54 PM	#798
jjk_reef00 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,476	As long as your skimmer is working, I don't see anything wrong with your cleaning schedule. __________________ I need more fish tank appliances! --Ed Current Tank Info: 375 FOWLR

01/31/2011, 12:49 AM	#799
bif24701 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Florida, FWB Posts: 3,389	I ordered my Protean 400 Deluxe System w/ Sump Buddy 40 should be here soon. Has anyone used this system? Any tips for set you can offer? __________________ 180 Mixed Reef SRO-5000 Skimmer Neptune APEX Gold Kessil AP700/ MP60+6105 Kalk+2 part/ Cheato Fuge Current Tank Info: 180 SPS Dominant

02/15/2011, 10:16 AM	#800
tonythefish Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 77	return to sump I have a 600 old style and it is about 1 foot above the water level of the sump . The return from the 600 is about 2" above the water line but makes a lot of water noise . Can you dip the return line into the water to make it quite ? I have tried this but seems to change levels in the 600 . I am worried as my sump level goes up and down it will effect the level or performance of the 600 ..

08/25/2010, 11:35 AM	#776
Alex T. Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,803	I was thinking of running ozone in my sps reef and wanted to know how many of you run ozone directly into the ETSS air intake. Any advice/suggestions. I have an extender tower on my 600 XR and run it off a Blueline 55hd. Pulls a lot of gunk...just looking for that little extra something that ozone can deliver.

10/19/2010, 09:13 PM	#777
Gill_bucket Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 547	Hey guys here is mine. I think it is an older 600 but not really sure??? I plan on plumbing it external I just have to work up the guts to drill my sump. This is only a couple minutes after setup it needed a little more tunning but now the waste water is much darker

10/19/2010, 09:35 PM	#778
Gill_bucket Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 547	So the bio balls are supposed to be in the down draft tube??? Mine are in the box.

10/19/2010, 10:38 PM	#779
NeonFish Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Petaluma Posts: 370	Other than the $200 difference between ETSS 800XR and ETSS 700 Refugium. What makes the 800 better than the 700. Tank size seems to be equivalent.

10/23/2010, 07:31 PM	#780
Gill_bucket Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 547	So I have noticed this guy will be trucking right along and then the bubbles will collapse. If I just leave it alone everything comes back but it takes hours. Anyone know why it does this?

10/24/2010, 01:55 PM	#781
taklein65 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Marysville, OH Posts: 116	Feeding will cause this so will some additives and putting your hands in the tank to work.

10/24/2010, 08:55 PM	#783
taklein65 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Marysville, OH Posts: 116	yes it happens in all skimmers.

11/05/2010, 01:05 AM	#786
NeonFish Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Petaluma Posts: 370	Thanks. I noticed that the 900 is a little cheaper, but is also taller. Since my sump is actually 20' down in the garage, I have plenty of room for it. I have about 300gal in the system. Use to have 3 skimmers one for each tank, now I only want one in the sump. Is the 900 overkill?

11/05/2010, 02:07 AM	#787
NeonFish Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Petaluma Posts: 370	Is it possible to generate enough pressure via gravity? I have drains going down about 20'. Water is pumped up using Coralife external P-1100. Really don't want another pump.

11/20/2010, 02:34 PM	#788
jmoney Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 970	no, it is not possible to create enough pressure that way. The bioballs, must go into the tower for them to work properly. You must use a pressure rated pump for the skimmer to work properly. If you do all these things, your skimmer will work so well, that loosing foam for an hour or so won't matter, a properly set up etss has the capability, and many people have reported that their skimmer will stop skimming at some points in the day, not because something is wrong, but they already have a 1/2 gallon or more of skimmate and their tank is "clean"

01/08/2011, 12:00 PM	#789
ballball Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1	glad to know this thread i live in hong kong, using evo500 i guess i need to change bioballs. do all think the brand of bioball ( other then ETSS) important, as I have difficulty in getting in touch with AE tech...cant buy the original bioballs.

01/25/2011, 02:30 PM	#795
jfl14609 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brockport, ny Posts: 4,940	Wow mega thread here with some great info. I have a etss 600 and just got a 800 i have one question the 600 doesn't have bio balls but it has something that looks like a mixing educator and the 800 doesn't is that some type of a mod?