Octopus Skimmer Mods - Page 33

markywmson · 01/17/2007, 11:15 PM

thanks man! you rock!

curtisk · 01/18/2007, 01:46 AM

Couldn't you just superglue the layers together instead of zip ties?

impur · 01/18/2007, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ThunderousTalon
Alright I'll go on friday and pick some up, and if i can make it to the post office in time to drop it off, it will go out friday if not saturday. All who want pm me. and on friday, i will go get envelopes and we'll call it 5$ for 3 3x3 peices. or enough to make 3 layers(that fair?). I'll do it on my pump and give it an extra inch so you guys can trim to fit your pumps.

p.s. i'm also getting zipties for this on friday too, so i'll get a big bag of em. and count how many i use and pack em w/ as many people that request till i run out. make things a little easier.

You guys should keep any transactions to pms so this thread doesn't get shut down.

I don't think superglue would hold for the long term. I'm sure the mesh moves a little in the volute due to resistance from the water. That moving back and forth would weaken the glue IMO.

ThunderousTalon · 01/18/2007, 11:57 AM

probably so, wasnt even thinking about it...

Abengochea · 01/18/2007, 05:58 PM

you dont need to use zip ties. Use fishing line. Ive been playing with the enkemat, for now the best setup Ive used is 3 layers of enkemat and a layer of gutterguard to hold it to the remaining paddle.

BigJPDC · 01/18/2007, 06:36 PM

Armando - do you take the needlewheels apart before sewing the enkmat on?

Abengochea · 01/18/2007, 06:55 PM

Yeah, first I took off both paddles. I took one and used it as a guide on how to cut it up into circles the same size as the paddles. I cut three of these circles. I did the same thing with one layer of gutterguard. Then I got the three layers of enkemat and one of gg and sandwiched it on to the paddle. So it would go, paddle then 3 layers of enkemat and then a layer of gg. I then intertwinned the fishing line in and out of the layers. After it was sewn on and tied, I cut out the middle section so I can put the paddle back on the impeller. One thing I havent compared is if makes a difference if the paddle should have the needles pointed foward or back. Im not sure it would make a difference but its something to thing about. Might want to try it out.... maybe next time I take it apart to play with it, I might be inspired to want to redo the mesh

klasiksb · 01/18/2007, 08:12 PM

ThunderousTalon, you've got PM.

Covey · 01/19/2007, 06:27 PM

So has anyone managed to cram 3 layers of PF-4 in the OTP-3000?

I have 2 in there now and it is working good I just wonder if the other layer would fit?

danskim · 01/19/2007, 10:32 PM

Covey,
I have 3 layers, and it's fine. I didn't try 2, so I don't know which is better.

Covey · 01/19/2007, 10:35 PM

Did you remove both original pinwheels or did you just trim the top one.

danskim · 01/19/2007, 10:40 PM

I just took off one.

Covey · 01/19/2007, 10:42 PM

Cool next time I have the pump apart I will slap another layer on.

Thanks

danskim · 01/19/2007, 10:44 PM

No problem. Also I used fishing wire to attach the layers on. It might be a little better for space than zip ties.

ThunderousTalon · 01/20/2007, 02:06 AM

I crammed 4 on there at first it was WAY too much of the pf4. dropped it down to 3 and still did some trimming. none the less. i got tired of playing w/ it, i plug in my pump and honestly it doesnt start up until i blow in the venturi tube then it kicks on. I'm going to work on it some more tom'r. not sure what it is thats stopping it from going initially it pumps water but takes a push for the venturi to get going. as for how it works. its absolutely incredible how many and much more bubbles i get now as well as how fine they are. massive improvement. the foam coming out is so much thicker.

SeaView · 01/20/2007, 04:14 PM

http://www.lagunakoi.com/koishop/cgi...AIL&item=60007

Is this the same material?

Abengochea · 01/20/2007, 04:36 PM

yup thats the same stuff seaview

SeaView · 01/21/2007, 08:38 AM

nw200 running for 5 days now and no skimmate yet. Could this indicate a problem? Water level is set just below the skimmer cup union. My RS was pulling tons of scum so I know the water is ready to be skimmed.

Thanks

ThunderousTalon · 01/21/2007, 10:06 AM

to be honest, my skimmer wasn't pulling much either when i first got it, it has to break in a good bit. takes a little bit of time. I am still not fully broken in yet, atleast i hope not... haha but it has been getting better everyday for the last few days.

SeaView · 01/21/2007, 10:51 AM

Thanks.

I'll keep waiting then. Foam hasn't made it to the top of the neck yet.

It must be pulling a lot of air because I noticed that my evaporation rate on the tank has increased about a gallon a day since adding the skimmer.

ThunderousTalon · 01/21/2007, 12:11 PM

going from my ER to the Octo, i noticed a larger amount of air going into it as well. Maybe this is just my mind playing w/ me, but my tank looks significantly clearer.

klasiksb · 01/21/2007, 12:14 PM

Seaview, here is a little inspirational pic for you to look forward to. This is about 12hrs. worth from my NW-200 (no mesh mod).

scaryperson27 · 01/21/2007, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SeaView
Thanks.

I'll keep waiting then. Foam hasn't made it to the top of the neck yet.

It must be pulling a lot of air because I noticed that my evaporation rate on the tank has increased about a gallon a day since adding the skimmer.

The ocean runner pumps run a little hot. Have you checked your temperatures yet?

rleechb · 01/21/2007, 10:19 PM

How many layers of PF4 are you NW150 users using? =D

mavgi · 01/21/2007, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Covey
Cool next time I have the pump apart I will slap another layer on.

Thanks

if you will able to make 3 wider layer it's will be the best but you need also to have the option to control on the water level .

01/18/2007, 01:46 AM	#802
curtisk Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Biloxi Miss. Posts: 305	Couldn't you just superglue the layers together instead of zip ties? __________________ 100 gal. 75 lbs. live rock 4" DSB substrate 440 watts VHO 8-10 hrs./day 40 gal. sump hard/soft corals mixed External CPR overflow@1400 G.P.H Coral Life CSS 220 Mag 9.5 return Current Tank Info: 100 gal. reef

01/18/2007, 05:58 PM	#805
Abengochea Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 670	you dont need to use zip ties. Use fishing line. Ive been playing with the enkemat, for now the best setup Ive used is 3 layers of enkemat and a layer of gutterguard to hold it to the remaining paddle. __________________ Armando Current Tank Info: 29 Biocube

01/18/2007, 06:36 PM	#806
BigJPDC Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 959	Armando - do you take the needlewheels apart before sewing the enkmat on? __________________ Rock in the tank is money not in my bank. Current Tank Info: 65 RR AGA

01/18/2007, 06:55 PM	#807
Abengochea Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 670	Yeah, first I took off both paddles. I took one and used it as a guide on how to cut it up into circles the same size as the paddles. I cut three of these circles. I did the same thing with one layer of gutterguard. Then I got the three layers of enkemat and one of gg and sandwiched it on to the paddle. So it would go, paddle then 3 layers of enkemat and then a layer of gg. I then intertwinned the fishing line in and out of the layers. After it was sewn on and tied, I cut out the middle section so I can put the paddle back on the impeller. One thing I havent compared is if makes a difference if the paddle should have the needles pointed foward or back. Im not sure it would make a difference but its something to thing about. Might want to try it out.... maybe next time I take it apart to play with it, I might be inspired to want to redo the mesh __________________ Armando Current Tank Info: 29 Biocube

01/18/2007, 08:12 PM	#808
klasiksb Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: wisconsin Posts: 1,281	ThunderousTalon, you've got PM. __________________ Just a girl looking to build a little piece of heaven on earth, without killing it!

01/17/2007, 11:15 PM	#801
markywmson Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bristol, CT Posts: 303	thanks man! you rock!

01/18/2007, 11:57 AM	#804
ThunderousTalon Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HITH Posts: 737	probably so, wasnt even thinking about it...

01/19/2007, 06:27 PM	#809
Covey Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Davenport IA Posts: 2,018	So has anyone managed to cram 3 layers of PF-4 in the OTP-3000? I have 2 in there now and it is working good I just wonder if the other layer would fit?

01/19/2007, 10:32 PM	#810
danskim Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 1,639	Covey, I have 3 layers, and it's fine. I didn't try 2, so I don't know which is better. __________________ Dan The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever. -Jacques Cousteau

01/19/2007, 10:35 PM	#811
Covey Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Davenport IA Posts: 2,018	Did you remove both original pinwheels or did you just trim the top one.

01/19/2007, 10:40 PM	#812
danskim Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 1,639	I just took off one. __________________ Dan The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever. -Jacques Cousteau

01/19/2007, 10:42 PM	#813
Covey Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Davenport IA Posts: 2,018	Cool next time I have the pump apart I will slap another layer on. Thanks

01/19/2007, 10:44 PM	#814
danskim Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 1,639	No problem. Also I used fishing wire to attach the layers on. It might be a little better for space than zip ties. __________________ Dan The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever. -Jacques Cousteau

01/20/2007, 02:06 AM	#815
ThunderousTalon Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HITH Posts: 737	I crammed 4 on there at first it was WAY too much of the pf4. dropped it down to 3 and still did some trimming. none the less. i got tired of playing w/ it, i plug in my pump and honestly it doesnt start up until i blow in the venturi tube then it kicks on. I'm going to work on it some more tom'r. not sure what it is thats stopping it from going initially it pumps water but takes a push for the venturi to get going. as for how it works. its absolutely incredible how many and much more bubbles i get now as well as how fine they are. massive improvement. the foam coming out is so much thicker.

01/20/2007, 04:14 PM	#816
SeaView Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LI/NY Posts: 586	http://www.lagunakoi.com/koishop/cgi...AIL&item=60007 Is this the same material?

01/20/2007, 04:36 PM	#817
Abengochea Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 670	yup thats the same stuff seaview __________________ Armando Current Tank Info: 29 Biocube

01/21/2007, 08:38 AM	#818
SeaView Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LI/NY Posts: 586	nw200 running for 5 days now and no skimmate yet. Could this indicate a problem? Water level is set just below the skimmer cup union. My RS was pulling tons of scum so I know the water is ready to be skimmed. Thanks

01/21/2007, 10:06 AM	#819
ThunderousTalon Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HITH Posts: 737	to be honest, my skimmer wasn't pulling much either when i first got it, it has to break in a good bit. takes a little bit of time. I am still not fully broken in yet, atleast i hope not... haha but it has been getting better everyday for the last few days.

01/21/2007, 10:51 AM	#820
SeaView Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LI/NY Posts: 586	Thanks. I'll keep waiting then. Foam hasn't made it to the top of the neck yet. It must be pulling a lot of air because I noticed that my evaporation rate on the tank has increased about a gallon a day since adding the skimmer.

01/21/2007, 12:11 PM	#821
ThunderousTalon Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HITH Posts: 737	going from my ER to the Octo, i noticed a larger amount of air going into it as well. Maybe this is just my mind playing w/ me, but my tank looks significantly clearer.

01/21/2007, 12:14 PM	#822
klasiksb Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: wisconsin Posts: 1,281	Seaview, here is a little inspirational pic for you to look forward to. This is about 12hrs. worth from my NW-200 (no mesh mod). __________________ Just a girl looking to build a little piece of heaven on earth, without killing it!

01/21/2007, 10:19 PM	#824
rleechb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 2,684	How many layers of PF4 are you NW150 users using? =D