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Unread 04/27/2014, 07:28 AM   #10401
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Please can you have a look at my updated intended fish list?

120 US gallon 5' tank with sump and refugium. I plan to introduce these fish slowly in something like the order shown below, obviously I'm aware of the feeding issues with the mandarins and CBB! Eventual plans for the tank is a PEACEFUL reef tank!

1 purple firefish
1 royal gramma
1 tailspot blenny
1 Chromis - you said before about disease issues, not sure if this applies to the UK too?
Pair of flasher wrasse
Pair of perc. clownfish
1 midas blenny - unsure about this with the other fish I'm thinking of
1 one spot fox face - I'm a bit unsure about this one, worried about potential aggression/ eating corals
Pair of mandarins
1 Copperband butterfly
1 female wantanabei angel
1 yellow eye kole tang

Many thanks for your help, it's much appreciated!


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Unread 04/27/2014, 08:35 AM   #10402
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Thanks for your comments. There will be a 1/4 inch mesh top and I can
feed the fish on whatever schedule is appropriate. I had come up with
a second list:

Salarias fasciatus
Cirrhilabrus lubbocki
Wetmorella tanakai
Gobiodon okinawae
Paracheilinus mccoskeri
Ecsenius midas
Fowleria flammea
Synchiropus splendidus (after 1 year)
Nemanthias carberryi x 4 - 5 (after 9 months)

If that is not too many Anthias, should I split the tank transfer among 2 sets of 20 gallon tanks? Also, after the tank transfer method is complete, would it be best to house them in the same tank for the rest of the quarantine period?

Lastly, might the Anthias out compete the Mandarin for copepods?

Thanks again for your consideration.


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Unread 04/27/2014, 09:48 AM   #10403
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Please can you have a look at my updated intended fish list?

120 US gallon 5' tank with sump and refugium. I plan to introduce these fish slowly in something like the order shown below, obviously I'm aware of the feeding issues with the mandarins and CBB! Eventual plans for the tank is a PEACEFUL reef tank!

1 purple firefish introduce early
1 royal gramma
1 tailspot blenny
1 Chromis - you said before about disease issues, not sure if this applies to the UK too? yes, unfortunately
Pair of flasher wrasse may intimidate your firefish and must have 1/4 inch mesh top
Pair of perc. clownfish
1 midas blenny - unsure about this with the other fish I'm thinking of they can nip fins of planktivores
1 one spot fox face - I'm a bit unsure about this one, worried about potential aggression/ eating corals if well fed, are not a problem, but if not, they can go after corals because of the zooxanthellae
Pair of mandarins after 9 months
1 Copperband butterfly copepod competitor for mandarins, I suggest only a single rather than a pair of mandarins
1 female wantanabei angel
1 yellow eye kole tang

Many thanks for your help, it's much appreciated!
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Unread 04/27/2014, 09:50 AM   #10404
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Thanks for your comments. There will be a 1/4 inch mesh top and I can
feed the fish on whatever schedule is appropriate. I had come up with
a second list:

Salarias fasciatus
Cirrhilabrus lubbocki
Wetmorella tanakai
Gobiodon okinawae
Paracheilinus mccoskeri
Ecsenius midas may nip fins of planktivores
Fowleria flammea
Synchiropus splendidus (after 1 year)
Nemanthias carberryi x 4 - 5 (after 9 months)

If that is not too many Anthias, should I split the tank transfer among 2 sets of 20 gallon tanks? Also, after the tank transfer method is complete, would it be best to house them in the same tank for the rest of the quarantine period?

Lastly, might the Anthias out compete the Mandarin for copepods? no, but anthias do best with multiple feedings per day

Thanks again for your consideration.



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Unread 04/27/2014, 10:27 AM   #10405
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looking to add

I have a 120 with live rock, leathers, mushrooms, Kenya trees and skimmer but no sump.

Current fish:
Hippo tang
Tomini tang
Clown 2x
Blue damsel 3x
Green mandarin

Want to add:
Yellow tang
Flame angel
Fire fish 3x, or 1x and a royal gamma (something small brightly colored)

Your thoughts are appreciated, thanks.


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Unread 04/27/2014, 10:36 AM   #10406
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I have a 120 with live rock, leathers, mushrooms, Kenya trees and skimmer but no sump.

Current fish:
Hippo tang needs a much larger (longer) tank
Tomini tang
Clown 2x species?
Blue damsel 3x will limit tank mates going forward
Green mandarin

Want to add:
Yellow tang two tangs in your current tank are about all you can have
Flame angel I am concerned about the damsels
Fire fish 3x, or 1x one firefish is fine

and a royal gamma (something small brightly colored) fine

Your thoughts are appreciated, thanks.



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Unread 04/27/2014, 11:21 AM   #10407
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I have a 35G cube with 40B sump, total system volume is 50 gallons. Currently have 1 lawnmower blenny, 1 molly, 1 emerald crab, various snails, no hermits. Thinking of adding a tiger pistol shrimp and from what I have heard it is not likely the lawnmower blenny will pair up with him. Was thinking of a yellow watchman goby to pair with the shrimp but not sure how the blenny and the goby will get along. Do you think the blenny will pair up with the goby or would their be hostilities? Thanks.


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Unread 04/27/2014, 11:37 AM   #10408
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I have a 35G cube with 40B sump, total system volume is 50 gallons. Currently have 1 lawnmower blenny, 1 molly, 1 emerald crab, various snails, no hermits. Thinking of adding a tiger pistol shrimp and from what I have heard it is not likely the lawnmower blenny will pair up with him.

lawnmower blennies do not have commensal relationships with pistol shrimp

Was thinking of a yellow watchman goby to pair with the shrimp but not sure how the blenny and the goby will get along. Do you think the blenny will pair up with the goby or would their be hostilities? Thanks.
the pistol shrimp will pair with a yellow watchman goby; the blenny and goby should not interact because they are not in the same ecological niche


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Unread 04/27/2014, 02:43 PM   #10409
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75 G Build

Hello all I am in the process of starting a 75 gallon reef. It has dry rock and dry sand and no sump for now. No skimmer as of yet but theses are the fish I am thinking about getting when it is time. I plane on keeping some zoas,lps and softies. As of now I have 216 watts of t5s over the tank. Please tell me what you think thanks.

1 Yellow Eye Tang - Ctenochaetus strigosus

2 Ocellaris Clownfish - Amphiprion ocellaris

1 Flame Angel - Centropyge loriculus

1 Royal Gramma - Gramma loreto

1 Canary Blenny - Meiacanthus ovalanensis


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Unread 04/27/2014, 03:07 PM   #10410
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Hi Steve.

Currently setting up a 300 gallon (96"x24"x30") with a 120 gallon live rock sump and 55 gallon sump for equipment.


Swissguard Basslet

Midas Blenny
Starry Blenny

Bonded pair of ocellaris or pink skunk clowns

Blue line/scribbled rabbitfish

Mystery Wrasse
Lineatus Fairy Wrasse
Pink Margin Fairy wrasse

Long nose Atlantic Butterfly
Copperband butterfly

Convict Tang
Chevron Tang
Atlantic Blue tang
Purple Tang

Flame Angel
Multicolor angel
Lemon peel angel

Wantanabei Angel

Goldflake angel
Regal angel
Asfur Angel

Contemplating a pink tail or sargassum trigger


I've always had smaller (75-100 gal) tanks without the ability to put many fish together. Thanks for your input!


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Unread 04/27/2014, 05:34 PM   #10411
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Hello all I am in the process of starting a 75 gallon reef. It has dry rock and dry sand and no sump for now. No skimmer as of yet but theses are the fish I am thinking about getting when it is time. I plane on keeping some zoas,lps and softies. As of now I have 216 watts of t5s over the tank. Please tell me what you think thanks.

1 Yellow Eye Tang - Ctenochaetus strigosus add last

2 Ocellaris Clownfish - Amphiprion ocellaris

1 Flame Angel - Centropyge loriculus

1 Royal Gramma - Gramma loreto

1 Canary Blenny - Meiacanthus ovalanensis
should be fine


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Unread 04/27/2014, 05:38 PM   #10412
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Hi Steve.

Currently setting up a 300 gallon (96"x24"x30") with a 120 gallon live rock sump and 55 gallon sump for equipment.


Swissguard Basslet

Midas Blenny can nip fins of planktivores
Starry Blenny can be a pain

Bonded pair of ocellaris or pink skunk clowns skunk clowns may need a larger territory

Blue line/scribbled rabbitfish

Mystery Wrasse
Lineatus Fairy Wrasse
Pink Margin Fairy wrasse

Long nose Atlantic Butterfly
Copperband butterfly tank must be mature, but before the tangs. CBB like peaceful tankmates and the angels and tangs are not so there may be an issue

Convict Tang
Chevron Tang
Atlantic Blue tang
Purple Tang

Flame Angel
Multicolor angel
Lemon peel angel

Wantanabei Angel

Goldflake angel
Regal angel
Asfur Angel

Contemplating a pink tail or sargassum trigger


I've always had smaller (75-100 gal) tanks without the ability to put many fish together. Thanks for your input!
while that is a fair number of largish fish, it should be ok except with comments


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Unread 04/28/2014, 09:39 AM   #10413
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Upgrading from a 60 cube to a 30x30x30 116.9 gallon tank. Will have plenty of LR and will use some water from my 60 to help get the cycle going.
I currently have:

2 Black and White Clowns
1 YWG w/ Pistol Shrimp
1 Sixline Wrasse
1 Coral Beauty Angel

Not wanting all but these are some fish im interested in adding:
1 of the following tangs
Kole Yellow Eye Tang
Bristletooth Tomini Tang
Two Spot Bristletooth Tang

Yellow Wrasse
Starry Blenny
Squareback Anthias (Possibly a small group? 3?)

This tank will be set up and sit for a little while before transferring. Then I will add the fish that are decided upon slowly. Let me know what you think. Thank you.


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Unread 04/28/2014, 01:54 PM   #10414
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Upgrading from a 60 cube to a 30x30x30 116.9 gallon tank. Will have plenty of LR and will use some water from my 60 to help get the cycle going.
I currently have:

2 Black and White Clowns
1 YWG w/ Pistol Shrimp
1 Sixline Wrasse may limit additions
1 Coral Beauty Angel

Not wanting all but these are some fish im interested in adding:
1 of the following tangs all are behaviorally similar
Kole Yellow Eye Tang
Bristletooth Tomini Tang
Two Spot Bristletooth Tang

Yellow Wrasse
Starry Blenny can be a pain
Squareback Anthias (Possibly a small group? 3?)

This tank will be set up and sit for a little while before transferring. Then I will add the fish that are decided upon slowly. Let me know what you think. Thank you.
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Unread 04/28/2014, 02:50 PM   #10415
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Well, im not 100% attached to the Sixline. Would it be a good idea to trade it in when i do the transfer?

Whats the reason for the Starry Blenny being a pain? If its a bully I dont want to cause any unnecessary drama in the tank.


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Unread 04/28/2014, 02:58 PM   #10416
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Snorvich -- Do you mind expanding on why Starry Blennies can be pains?


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Unread 04/28/2014, 03:48 PM   #10417
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Well, im not 100% attached to the Sixline. Would it be a good idea to trade it in when i do the transfer?

I would. One of the questions most asked is how to get a six line out.

Whats the reason for the Starry Blenny being a pain? If its a bully I dont want to cause any unnecessary drama in the tank.

Yes, they can be a bully. Other blennies are a better choice.



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Snorvich -- Do you mind expanding on why Starry Blennies can be pains?
they can be bullies. Do a search on RC and you will see more than a few threads about them. Or, just read one which can be found here.


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Unread 04/28/2014, 09:51 PM   #10419
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I have a Nuvo 38 with a pair of Ocellaris clowns, a Yasha Goby with a Randall's pistol shrimp, and a purple firefish. I am considering adding a Helfrichi firefish, but I have heard mixed things about adding it to the tank with the purple firefish already established. Do you think the two firefishes would be okay together (even though they are not being added at the same time)?


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I have a Nuvo 38 with a pair of Ocellaris clowns, a Yasha Goby with a Randall's pistol shrimp, and a purple firefish. I am considering adding a Helfrichi firefish, but I have heard mixed things about adding it to the tank with the purple firefish already established. Do you think the two firefishes would be okay together (even though they are not being added at the same time)?
Firefish will coexist for a while; in the long run only one will survive because the dominant one will intimidate the other.


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I currently have a juwel rio 125 set up for tropical fish and I want to convert it to marine. To do this I plan to remove the juwel filter box add 15kg of live rock, a juwel skimmer, marine lighting and a few power heads (keeping the juwel heater I have currently). Anything missing?


Once my tank is set up I would like to keep a pair of clowns, a tang and a few shrimp snails etc.

Obviously I would hope to keep more than this. I have heard of gobies and shrimp teaming up? Is this just specific species of goby and shrimp?

Does anyone have any suggestions of other fish to go with this stock?

Will possibly keep soft corals to

Sorry for long post, want to make sure I get this right


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I currently have a juwel rio 125 set up for tropical fish and I want to convert it to marine. To do this I plan to remove the juwel filter box add 15kg of live rock, a juwel skimmer, marine lighting and a few power heads (keeping the juwel heater I have currently). Anything missing?

Is that a 125 gallon tank? Based on your rock quantity, it sounds much smaller.

Once my tank is set up I would like to keep a pair of clowns, a tang and a few shrimp snails etc.

Obviously I would hope to keep more than this. I have heard of gobies and shrimp teaming up? Is this just specific species of goby and shrimp?

Does anyone have any suggestions of other fish to go with this stock?

Will possibly keep soft corals to

Sorry for long post, want to make sure I get this right
This thread is only about marine fish compatibility. For equipment and related, start your own thread in New to the Hobby and . . .


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Unread 04/29/2014, 08:43 AM   #10423
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QT question...

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Yeah I think I'm going to pass on the shrimp. Sounds cool but also horrible. My sandbed is covered with lps and I don't think it's worth taking the chance on the shrimp. I will however grab the pinkbar goby instead of the yellow prawn goby. You sir are a tank saver! Many thanks.
I just got my fish in from LA and the salinity is 1.016. My QT tank is at 1.020 and can quickly go to 1.016 to match BUT I have a few mushrooms and a huge colony of nepthia in the QT tank. Can it live below 1.020??


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I just got my fish in from LA and the salinity is 1.016. My QT tank is at 1.020 and can quickly go to 1.016 to match BUT I have a few mushrooms and a huge colony of nepthia in the QT tank. Can it live below 1.020??
I hate the fact that they ship at that SG. It is riskier to raise SG for fish since that has to be done slowly, so it is desirable to match your QT SG to shipping SG. Mushrooms are pretty hardy, Nepthia, I am not sure of.


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Yeah I was surprised for it to be so low. Not cool. I think the nepthia would make it but it would really stress it. I'm drip acclimating the fish like I used to do. In an hours time I will bring it up from 1.016 to 1.020. I hope everyone will be okay with it.


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