How to clean a Tunze pump and what to do about a driver alarm. - Page 6

rvitko · 12/15/2008, 10:11 AM

If you change the impeller and get an alarm still the motor is likely bad. Sorry I missed your earlier post.

jthao · 01/04/2009, 05:04 AM

how do you clean a 6101?? and there's no alarm on there, so how do I know if something is wrong besides it just stop working.

rvitko · 01/05/2009, 11:36 AM

The basic procedure is identical, there just is no alarm and you have the one piece 6100.70 drive unit.

Tony Romano · 01/18/2009, 01:19 PM

Tunze USA
305 Victor St
Austin, TX 78753

__________________
Roger Vitko
Tunze USA

I need to send mine in for service. Is above current? Do need me to clean it up or do you have acid bath?

rvitko · 01/19/2009, 11:53 AM

We do charge for cleaning, typically we only clean them well enough to get them running unless you want to pay for a full cleaning/overall which is $25 in labor.

rvitko · 01/19/2009, 11:53 AM

Address is correct by the way.

edandsandy · 02/10/2009, 12:41 PM

Roger,
I have the 6101, I have it soaking in vinegar and water. How do I remove the impeller?
Do I just pull it apart?
It feels like I'm going to break it (lol) when i try and remove it.

rvitko · 02/10/2009, 02:31 PM

It sounds like it is pretty badly cemented up. I would let it soak for a day or two and the try pulling with a twisting motion. If that doesn't work I would send it in.

chefrt · 03/10/2009, 08:10 AM

I have stream 6100 pump that not working quiet sometime. It has bean clean with vinegar and the propeller, O-ring look ok for me, it easy to turn with hand. The problem is, every time I switch on the propeller will spin about 2 to 3 spin and it will stop and sensor sound beeping will start. Can you tell me witch one it fouled, the motor or the sensor or propeller?

rvitko · 03/10/2009, 10:33 AM

Usually this means the motor is bad, part 6100.015.

chefrt · 03/11/2009, 05:26 AM

Thank you Roger,
I will order the motor part, after I get the quotation from Singapore.

pebe · 04/08/2009, 02:49 PM

Roger, i have received my repaired pumps back today. Thank you once again, great service, very fast turn around.

Pete.

jonboy · 04/17/2009, 05:47 AM

Roger,
I have 2 6101s that i have never taken apart and cleaned. I didnt
read the manual close enough. I have soaked them for 36 hours and
they are not moving. The impellers are off and the first ring is off.
Is there something else to remove to allow the shafts to slide out?
Thanks for the help,
jonathan

Tony Romano · 04/17/2009, 12:15 PM

Roger - I am going to send in a pump next week. Do you use RMA numbers?

Tony

rvitko · 04/17/2009, 12:30 PM

No RMA's, just include your return address and phone number in the box.

jonboy, most likely if they are seized and you can't pull them out, you will need to send them in and it is unlikely the drive units can be removed without breaking them.

fourts1 · 05/16/2009, 11:34 AM

Roger

Just bought a used wavebox(6260.10 pump) and when I plugged it in it did not work and transformer and driver got very hot immediately. No driver alarm sounded. Took pump apart and cleaned(extensive calcium deposits present). Swapped out driver(7240.27) with my 6200 and wavebox worked for two hours then driver alarm sounded. Recleaned pump and driver alarm again sounded within 5 minutes. Took drive unit and bushings from the 6200 and put them in the wavebox 6260.10 and alarm again sounded within five minutes although pump was functioning. When I put the driver and drive unit back on the 6200 they work fine. What do you suggest I do?

rvitko · 05/18/2009, 10:22 AM

Send in the pump and driver and I will call you and let you know what we find and how much it will cost to repair. I suspect the pump is bad or there is some small drive unit issue, like a mismatched bushing or bearing.

teesquare · 08/26/2009, 10:14 AM

Roger:

I am looking for an owners manual for some old 6100.10 s
( I have 5 of them) I cannot find them on the website....can you tell me if they may be archived somewhere that I could download a copy?
Thanks,
T

rvitko · 08/26/2009, 11:01 AM

If you PM me your email address I will email it to you.

hos · 09/15/2009, 08:43 PM

Hi Roger ,
I am having the same problem as a post I just read by Jmaxwell
Roger,

I've got a 6101 (a pair actually) and I think the motor is dead. Its about 9 months old, and I just cleaned the whole thing. All four parts of the impeller (impeller, bushing, o-ring and the other thing that is a pain to get out w/o needlenose pliers.) look free of calcium as does the hole that the impeller goes into. I usualy run it on a 7095, but I've been testing it in a bucket of water and just pluging it into the wall sans controller. The pump does nothing, no sound or anything. The little fuse looking thing that is set to 24V at the top glows red. Is that correct? I don't know that I ever heard any "alarm" where would I see that? Anyway should I send it in? I'm pretty sure I can not find my receipt.

although I have not taken the impeller apart it looks real clean to me and the other two older 6100 are working fine .
what do you sagest I do?
thanks
Frank

rvitko · 09/16/2009, 08:25 AM

6101's don't have an alarm, that is the older 6100. It is rare but sometimes a power supply lights up but doesn't work, I would try another power supply from a working pump.

hos · 09/16/2009, 04:20 PM

bolth of the 6101 power supply lights are on and bolth of the pumps are not working

rvitko · 09/17/2009, 08:33 AM

Send them in, if I can't repair them I will replace them, please include the power supplies.

Tunze USA
305 Victor St
Austin, TX 78753

hos · 09/18/2009, 04:39 PM

thank you Roger ,
I sent them out today ups said you should have it by wed of next week

Frank

FishDad2 · 09/27/2009, 11:17 AM

I'm trying to take the impeller out of my 6100 for maintenance but it simply won't come out. I tried leaving it in white vinegar over night but it's still stuck in there solid.

This isn't the first time I've had to do maintenance on the pump but this is the first time I've been unable to extract the impeller.

Looking at the 3rd picture posted on the first page of this thread, I have the 3 parts at the far right removed from the assembly, but the rest remains stuck inside the body of the pump.

Any suggestions on extraction?

Please advise.

Thanks,
Chris

12/15/2008, 10:11 AM	#126
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	If you change the impeller and get an alarm still the motor is likely bad. Sorry I missed your earlier post. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

01/04/2009, 05:04 AM	#127
jthao Super Saiyan Join Date: May 2007 Location: NorCal Posts: 2,522	how do you clean a 6101?? and there's no alarm on there, so how do I know if something is wrong besides it just stop working. __________________ Elos 160xl \| Profilux 3.1Nex ultimate \| BK DC200 \| (5)Mitras 6200s \|(4) Vortech MP40QD \| 3155 ATO \| Schuran CaRx \| Carbon-Doser \| Red Dragon return \| 500G Starphire FOWLR \| BK SM200 \| (6) Tunze 6105

01/05/2009, 11:36 AM	#128
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	The basic procedure is identical, there just is no alarm and you have the one piece 6100.70 drive unit. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

01/18/2009, 01:19 PM	#129
Tony Romano Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sugar Land Texas Posts: 874	Tunze USA 305 Victor St Austin, TX 78753 __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA I need to send mine in for service. Is above current? Do need me to clean it up or do you have acid bath? __________________ Tony Romano Why don't I have any money? Current Tank Info: 215 & 90 mixed tanks

01/19/2009, 11:53 AM	#130
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	We do charge for cleaning, typically we only clean them well enough to get them running unless you want to pay for a full cleaning/overall which is $25 in labor. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

01/19/2009, 11:53 AM	#131
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Address is correct by the way. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

02/10/2009, 12:41 PM	#132
edandsandy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NE Florida Posts: 2,380 Blog Entries: 2	Roger, I have the 6101, I have it soaking in vinegar and water. How do I remove the impeller? Do I just pull it apart? It feels like I'm going to break it (lol) when i try and remove it. __________________ Sandy ><((((º>`•.¸¸.•><((((º>´¯`•><((((º> .¸¸.><((((º>•.¸. , . .•><((((º>.¸¸. Current Tank Info: 375 Reef, 4) Radion LED lights X30 pro, Apex Fusion, Octo Regal 300 E Skimmer, GEO 618 Calcium Reactor 2) Reeflo Snapper pumps, 2)50g refugium, 2) MP 40's

02/10/2009, 02:31 PM	#133
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	It sounds like it is pretty badly cemented up. I would let it soak for a day or two and the try pulling with a twisting motion. If that doesn't work I would send it in. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

03/10/2009, 08:10 AM	#134
chefrt Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brunei Posts: 124	I have stream 6100 pump that not working quiet sometime. It has bean clean with vinegar and the propeller, O-ring look ok for me, it easy to turn with hand. The problem is, every time I switch on the propeller will spin about 2 to 3 spin and it will stop and sensor sound beeping will start. Can you tell me witch one it fouled, the motor or the sensor or propeller?

03/10/2009, 10:33 AM	#135
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Usually this means the motor is bad, part 6100.015. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

03/11/2009, 05:26 AM	#136
chefrt Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brunei Posts: 124	Thank you Roger, I will order the motor part, after I get the quotation from Singapore.

04/08/2009, 02:49 PM	#137
pebe Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: southampton,ny Posts: 56	pump repair Roger, i have received my repaired pumps back today. Thank you once again, great service, very fast turn around. Pete.

04/17/2009, 05:47 AM	#138
jonboy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 333	Roger, I have 2 6101s that i have never taken apart and cleaned. I didnt read the manual close enough. I have soaked them for 36 hours and they are not moving. The impellers are off and the first ring is off. Is there something else to remove to allow the shafts to slide out? Thanks for the help, jonathan

04/17/2009, 12:15 PM	#139
Tony Romano Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sugar Land Texas Posts: 874	Roger - I am going to send in a pump next week. Do you use RMA numbers? Tony __________________ Tony Romano Why don't I have any money? Current Tank Info: 215 & 90 mixed tanks

04/17/2009, 12:30 PM	#140
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	No RMA's, just include your return address and phone number in the box. jonboy, most likely if they are seized and you can't pull them out, you will need to send them in and it is unlikely the drive units can be removed without breaking them. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

05/16/2009, 11:34 AM	#141
fourts1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 52	Roger Just bought a used wavebox(6260.10 pump) and when I plugged it in it did not work and transformer and driver got very hot immediately. No driver alarm sounded. Took pump apart and cleaned(extensive calcium deposits present). Swapped out driver(7240.27) with my 6200 and wavebox worked for two hours then driver alarm sounded. Recleaned pump and driver alarm again sounded within 5 minutes. Took drive unit and bushings from the 6200 and put them in the wavebox 6260.10 and alarm again sounded within five minutes although pump was functioning. When I put the driver and drive unit back on the 6200 they work fine. What do you suggest I do?

05/18/2009, 10:22 AM	#142
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Send in the pump and driver and I will call you and let you know what we find and how much it will cost to repair. I suspect the pump is bad or there is some small drive unit issue, like a mismatched bushing or bearing. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

08/26/2009, 10:14 AM	#143
teesquare Coral Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: western NC Posts: 1,663	old 6100.10 Roger: I am looking for an owners manual for some old 6100.10 s ( I have 5 of them) I cannot find them on the website....can you tell me if they may be archived somewhere that I could download a copy? Thanks, T __________________ No....really honey, it was a gift! Current Tank Info: 700 gallon combined reef/frag systems - 650gal Cichlid system

08/26/2009, 11:01 AM	#144
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	If you PM me your email address I will email it to you. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

09/15/2009, 08:43 PM	#145
hos Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 82	Hi Roger , I am having the same problem as a post I just read by Jmaxwell Roger, I've got a 6101 (a pair actually) and I think the motor is dead. Its about 9 months old, and I just cleaned the whole thing. All four parts of the impeller (impeller, bushing, o-ring and the other thing that is a pain to get out w/o needlenose pliers.) look free of calcium as does the hole that the impeller goes into. I usualy run it on a 7095, but I've been testing it in a bucket of water and just pluging it into the wall sans controller. The pump does nothing, no sound or anything. The little fuse looking thing that is set to 24V at the top glows red. Is that correct? I don't know that I ever heard any "alarm" where would I see that? Anyway should I send it in? I'm pretty sure I can not find my receipt. although I have not taken the impeller apart it looks real clean to me and the other two older 6100 are working fine . what do you sagest I do? thanks Frank

09/16/2009, 08:25 AM	#146
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	6101's don't have an alarm, that is the older 6100. It is rare but sometimes a power supply lights up but doesn't work, I would try another power supply from a working pump. __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

09/16/2009, 04:20 PM	#147
hos Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 82	bolth of the 6101 power supply lights are on and bolth of the pumps are not working

09/17/2009, 08:33 AM	#148
rvitko RC Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Austin Texas USA Posts: 35,785	Send them in, if I can't repair them I will replace them, please include the power supplies. Tunze USA 305 Victor St Austin, TX 78753 __________________ Roger Vitko Tunze USA "He's for every one of us, stands for every one of us, he'll save every man, woman and child in a mighty Flash!" Current Tank Info: 210 gallon planted tank with Altum Angelfish

09/18/2009, 04:39 PM	#149
hos Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 82	thank you Roger , I sent them out today ups said you should have it by wed of next week Frank

09/27/2009, 11:17 AM	#150
FishDad2 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 660	I'm trying to take the impeller out of my 6100 for maintenance but it simply won't come out. I tried leaving it in white vinegar over night but it's still stuck in there solid. This isn't the first time I've had to do maintenance on the pump but this is the first time I've been unable to extract the impeller. Looking at the 3rd picture posted on the first page of this thread, I have the 3 parts at the far right removed from the assembly, but the rest remains stuck inside the body of the pump. Any suggestions on extraction? Please advise. Thanks, Chris