ESHINE 48X3W 4G lighting fixture experience

[squbg]

Do I need that much led. With a 90 bow And the controller for the ai looks way better in use and function ability thoughts ??

[yh1185]

That's a decision you have to make. It depends on what you want to keep. If you think the AI looks better then go for it. Looks weren't that important to me, i wanted functionality and bang for buck, and that's why i went for Eshine. I agree that the AI looks more slick and not as generic as the eshine lights, but for the price i couldn't justify it just for the looks. Functionality wise having a controller for sunrise/sunset was just a really cool feature that didn't cost that much more. Even without a controller a normal timer would be just fine. I can't really see any functional advantage of an AI over eshine.

The only thing i see better about AI's are looks, quality control, and potential upgrades in the future. To me that's not worth the price difference, but it could be to you. All depends on how much money your willing to spend, and what is more important to you. HTH

[squbg]

Originally Posted by yh1185

2 48X3w units = 96 CREE LED's.
2 AI Sol units = 48 CREE LED's.

having said that
do you think that i could use 1 60x3w eshine light for a 90bow (48x12x 27deep)
and does do you if you need the digital timer if you are using their controller

[yh1185]

I think it should be ok. I think the main drawback of their units is the spread and not so much as the penetration since it's the same LED's as AI uses.

[squbg]

Originally Posted by yh1185

I think it should be ok. I think the main drawback of their units is the spread and not so much as the penetration since it's the same LED's as AI uses.

so not to be totally cheap (because i really am) it sounds like ill be ok with the 60x3 and one controller and led configuration and or angle degree configuration 60º or 90º or both?

[91Atrac]

60' is gonna be the best option for better par spread IMO. The units are great in my experience with them but just noticed that the blues were bright enough for my liking. Corals loved the light tho.


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[SimonSKL]

Originally Posted by squbg

so not to be totally cheap (because i really am) it sounds like ill be ok with the 60x3 and one controller and led configuration and or angle degree configuration 60º or 90º or both?

I don't think the 60x3W comes with the controller nor dimmer.

[squbg]

no but i only have to buy one with the 60 in stead of one each for 2 48s

[jefferzbooboo]

Just wanted to chime in on my experience with Eshine. I purchased a 3G 25 LED Bridgelux version in September and it came with a bad fan. I contacted Peter and they sent out a new one, took awhile for shipping, but that's to be expected from China.
Overall I've been extremely happy with my light and I'm gonna use there lights again for a 33L I'm setting up.

[BIGG D]

Very interested in these. The price is hard to resist.

I have a 175 bow front that is 72" long and 29" deep. I have 2 center braces that separate the opening atop my tank in to 3 roughly 24" sections.

So im thinking 3-48x3w units...with controllers.

Beyond that I have no clue how to work through options like color or view angle.

I have a mixed reef...but plan to incoorporate more SPS going forward.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Great thread !!

[gregr]

Bigg D- 3 of those on a 72" tank is going to be just about perfect I think. I put these fixtures over my mixed reef a few months ago and most everything loves it but I did toast a birdsnest, digitata and a kinda boring tabling acro. All the other acros, clams, euphyllias, mushrooms, etc etc are doing just as well as they did under metal halides.

[galkito]

hi there you all!
After reading 7 pages of info, and after having all prices from eshine I would like some help from all you guys that own these units.

My tank is 44" by 22" by 24"High. I keep mostly LPS and softies because my current lights cannot support SPS.

I will buy the 4G 48x3W LED with controller.
Now my question is: will one unit be enough? Should I buy two CREE? Perhaps I should buy two bridgelux models and use all kinds of LEDs, red UV etc to have a better spectrum? I am so confused...
Please help a fellow reefer! :-)
And those who own them, please let us all know by now if you are happy with this product.

[yh1185]

Originally Posted by galkito

hi there you all!
After reading 7 pages of info, and after having all prices from eshine I would like some help from all you guys that own these units.

My tank is 44" by 22" by 24"High. I keep mostly LPS and softies because my current lights cannot support SPS.

I will buy the 4G 48x3W LED with controller.
Now my question is: will one unit be enough? Should I buy two CREE? Perhaps I should buy two bridgelux models and use all kinds of LEDs, red UV etc to have a better spectrum? I am so confused...
Please help a fellow reefer! :-)
And those who own them, please let us all know by now if you are happy with this product.

I have a 36" wide tank, and the lights are perfect IMO. You'd probably want a unit that is slightly longer. I know that they are coming out with a new 4g mold 2 line that will have more LED's. You might want to consider waiting for those.

As far as bridelux vs cree, it's all about penetration and what you want. I would suggest to add some other colors (red,green,uv) That is the one thing i regret. My acans are all turning orange. They still look really nice, but when i bought them, they were red :-P.

Overall, i'm still very happy with my 48X3w cree setup.

[SimonSKL]

Originally Posted by galkito

hi there you all!
After reading 7 pages of info, and after having all prices from eshine I would like some help from all you guys that own these units.

My tank is 44" by 22" by 24"High. I keep mostly LPS and softies because my current lights cannot support SPS.

I will buy the 4G 48x3W LED with controller.
Now my question is: will one unit be enough? Should I buy two CREE? Perhaps I should buy two bridgelux models and use all kinds of LEDs, red UV etc to have a better spectrum? I am so confused...
Please help a fellow reefer! :-)
And those who own them, please let us all know by now if you are happy with this product.

I too think the 24" long 48x3W will be a little too short for your tank as you will have dark section at each end of your tank unless you have an overflow at one or both ends. If you want to keep SPS near the bottom you definitely should consider the CREE and even some 60 or 90 degree optic lens. The Bridgelux at 120 degree factory lens will not have adequate penetrating intensity.

If you do want to add red LEDs, no more than two per 24" as they are quite overpowering. I have 4 royal blue replaced with red and I ended up shading two of the red to reduce their intensity. The red does add color and vibrant to your rocks and corals.

Here is my latest half tank shot with two EShine 48x3W on my 125 gallon tank

[radbluesfan]

Mine should be arriving today according to the DHL tracker. I got 2 48x3 with controllers and 2 without for a friend. We chose Bridgelux and had some different colors added.
12 nuetral white
16 royal blue
8 cool blue
6 actinic violet
6 bridgelux 510nm (aqua blue green)
The colors were recommended by a forum member (thanks Troptrea) who knows more than I will ever care to know about lighting.

I have a question for Eshine buyers. Were you home at the time of your delivery and did they need a signature. Also if you were home, did you unpack and inspect the lights while the driver waited?

[yh1185]

Originally Posted by radbluesfan

Mine should be arriving today according to the DHL tracker. I got 2 48x3 with controllers and 2 without for a friend. We chose Bridgelux and had some different colors added.
12 nuetral white
16 royal blue
8 cool blue
6 actinic violet
6 bridgelux 510nm (aqua blue green)
The colors were recommended by a forum member (thanks Troptrea) who knows more than I will ever care to know about lighting.

I have a question for Eshine buyers. Were you home at the time of your delivery and did they need a signature. Also if you were home, did you unpack and inspect the lights while the driver waited?

Yes they require a signature, so you have to be home. I didn't unpack it in front of the driver, but I did take pictures as i opened the unit. Sadly the glass on my unit had broken during the voyage over here, so luckily i had the pictures that i could send to E-shine. After they saw it, they called DHL and claimed it, and sent me another 2 new ones.(glass panels not lighting units). I would suggest taking pictures as you open it as well just in case something went wrong. Eshine is pretty good about sending you replacement parts of something broke or breaks. Also, since there is a warranty that covers 2 years, with the first year costing you no shipping, they would be required to give you replacement parts anyways.

[radbluesfan]

Originally Posted by galkito

hi there you all!
After reading 7 pages of info, and after having all prices from eshine I would like some help from all you guys that own these units.

My tank is 44" by 22" by 24"High. I keep mostly LPS and softies because my current lights cannot support SPS.

I will buy the 4G 48x3W LED with controller.
Now my question is: will one unit be enough? Should I buy two CREE? Perhaps I should buy two bridgelux models and use all kinds of LEDs, red UV etc to have a better spectrum? I am so confused...
Please help a fellow reefer! :-)
And those who own them, please let us all know by now if you are happy with this product.

They make a 60X3 which would give more coverage and a 36x3 and 24x3 that you could use two each of. Unfortunately, the controllers are only on the 48x3s at this time as far as I know. I do not know why this is but I would expect them to add a controller option for other models in the future.

[SimonSKL]

Originally Posted by radbluesfan

Mine should be arriving today according to the DHL tracker. I got 2 48x3 with controllers and 2 without for a friend. We chose Bridgelux and had some different colors added.
12 nuetral white
16 royal blue
8 cool blue
6 actinic violet
6 bridgelux 510nm (aqua blue green)
The colors were recommended by a forum member (thanks Troptrea) who knows more than I will ever care to know about lighting.

I have a question for Eshine buyers. Were you home at the time of your delivery and did they need a signature. Also if you were home, did you unpack and inspect the lights while the driver waited?

Yes, I was home when DHL delivered. I did have to sign for the packages. I only inspected the outside of the packages for damage before I signed. I don't think DHL is responsible for damages inside the package if the outside is intact.

[radbluesfan]

Originally Posted by yh1185

Yes they require a signature, so you have to be home. I didn't unpack it in front of the driver, but I did take pictures as i opened the unit. Sadly the glass on my unit had broken during the voyage over here, so luckily i had the pictures that i could send to E-shine. After they saw it, they called DHL and claimed it, and sent me another 2 new ones.(glass panels not lighting units). I would suggest taking pictures as you open it as well just in case something went wrong. Eshine is pretty good about sending you replacement parts of something broke or breaks. Also, since there is a warranty that covers 2 years, with the first year costing you no shipping, they would be required to give you replacement parts anyways.

Darn!!!!! I hope he does not arrive until after work. I'm off tomorrow though.

Thanks for the reply.

[radbluesfan]

I have an interesting fact to share with those on the brink of buying Eshine, or undecided. This is a sticky subject around here so I will not mention names or websites.
Eshine is working with a dealer now in my area and will not sell to the public if you are in the dealers "boundary". I think that they sold to me by accident or because I have been in contact with them over a month working things out and making up my mind----before they appointed the dealership status. On their last email they stated for me not to share that I had bought directly from them and that all sales must go through the dealer (similar to Stark LED and 60 watt Cree). That sounds great with the shipping and warranty aspects----------until you go to his webpage and see what he is charging. Without stating numbers I'll just say that the profit margin is quite a bit higher than you would think. So keep it in mind that this could happen in your area as well. It sucks that a greedy middleman can ruin a good thing.

[yh1185]

Originally Posted by radbluesfan

I have an interesting fact to share with those on the brink of buying Eshine, or undecided. This is a sticky subject around here so I will not mention names or websites.
Eshine is working with a dealer now in my area and will not sell to the public if you are in the dealers "boundary". I think that they sold to me by accident or because I have been in contact with them over a month working things out and making up my mind----before they appointed the dealership status. On their last email they stated for me not to share that I had bought directly from them and that all sales must go through the dealer (similar to Stark LED and 60 watt Cree). That sounds great with the shipping and warranty aspects----------until you go to his webpage and see what he is charging. Without stating numbers I'll just say that the profit margin is quite a bit higher than you would think. So keep it in mind that this could happen in your area as well. It sucks that a greedy middleman can ruin a good thing.

Very very interesting. I heard about this before, i didn't realize it was by geographical area. That's terrible that these companies would do that. I guess you do what you do to make a profit...They probably bought like 100+ units, and it cost 1/2 the price, and they want to make like a 300% profit on the units. That's just wrong. Well I'm sure it'll take a while for them to sell the units, especially if people get wind of which company it is, and see crap they're trying to pull.

[SimonSKL]

Well, I think this is a normal cycle of doing business. However, a middleman or distributor who makes unreasonable amount of profit will sooner or later be replaced by those who are willing to undersell him. I will let the market work that out. There are many options and products out there. They don't have the market cornered, unlike Ecotech MP series.

[galkito]

Hi guys. Thanks for all the info. I will keep my SPS from mid to top and from mid to bottom my LPS and softies. That's why I think it would be ok to buy the bridgelux modules.
This combination:
12 nuetral white
16 royal blue
8 cool blue
6 actinic violet
6 bridgelux 510nm (aqua blue green)

seems really nice. I will consider this when I place my order.
Thanks again!

And we would like to see some more pictures! :-)

[galkito]

I forgot to ask. What optics should I use? 60 or 90? Is there a big difference?

[SimonSKL]

This is one of my favorite pictures in the evening. I can't remember the exact intensity of white and blue, probably less than 40%