Aquaforest products- Component 1+2+3+ - Page 9

642642 · 09/12/2016, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iLLwiLL

Has anyone tried using BRS 2 part and mag combined with strong and mineral salts to make component 1+2+3+?? I have a bunch of BRS stuff lying around and would love for it to not go to waste when I switch over.

I would like to know about this as well.

iLLwiLL · 09/19/2016, 07:52 AM

Also, I noticed there is no component K for sale individually (like AB&C), is buying component strong the only way to get component K, or is it just kallium?

Eventually I'd like to have a 15 gallon tall sectioned off into 3 parts under my stand for roughly 15L reservoirs of each component and I'm looking for the most economical way to do so.

Felixc · 09/20/2016, 09:19 AM

Aquaforest :

I find the concentration of Component 123 solution is a bit too light for my use and wondering if it's OK to double the amount of each element to make it twice as strong to reduce the frequency mixing new batches. Below is what what I would mix into three 4L containers.

Bottle 1:
AF Calcium~ 100 grams per 1 liter
AF Magnesium~ 20 grams per 1 liter
Component A Strong~ 10ml per 1 liter
Component B Strong~ 10ml per 1 liter

Bottle 2:
AF KH Buffer~ 160 grams per 1 liter
Component C Strong~ 10ml per 1 liter

Bottle 3:
AF Reef Mineral Salt~ 50 grams per 1 liter
Component K Strong~ 10ml per 1 liter

*** KH buffer is currently not available in CANADA, when do you expect it to be in stock? In the meantime, would it be OK to use baking soda as a substitute?****

CIR2000 · 09/20/2016, 02:06 PM

I will start to using in the next days "Component 1+2+3"... but if I want adjust Ca, Mg and KH is correct to use "Ca Plus", "Mg Plus" and "KH Plus" ?

Thanks

Aquaforest · 09/21/2016, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIR2000

I will start to using in the next days "Component 1+2+3"... but if I want adjust Ca, Mg and KH is correct to use "Ca Plus", "Mg Plus" and "KH Plus" ?

Thanks

Yes. Correct - or Calcium,Magnesium,KH Buffer.
Component 1+2+3+ should be dosed in equal dosage.

CIR2000 · 09/21/2016, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquaforest

Yes. Correct - or Calcium,Magnesium,KH Buffer.

Component 1+2+3+ should be dosed in equal dosage.

Could be possible to use transparent bottles for the 3 liquids (Component 1+2+3) ?

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Alfrareef · 09/21/2016, 07:33 AM

I thought 123 was to regulate the Ca,Mg and KH... let's go aquaforest website again...

plyle02 · 09/21/2016, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIR2000

Could be possible to use transparent bottles for the 3 liquids (Component 1+2+3) ?

Sent from my iPhone

Yes, as long as there is not too much light, that should be ok.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfrareef

I thought 123 was to regulate the Ca,Mg and KH... let's go aquaforest website again...

Correct plus trace.

CIR2000 · 09/21/2016, 09:04 PM

In combination with the Component 1+2+3 which salt of the Aquaforest line is better to use ?

plyle02 · 09/22/2016, 02:59 PM

Probiotic is designed to use with the Probiotic based program. Otherwise, both Probiotic and Reef Salt are similarly formulated.
Cheers

Mr.Fishtank · 09/22/2016, 05:38 PM

Perry.

I started using AF products about a month ago, and my corals started losing a lot of color.
Mainly greens but also reds. Had one of my dark maroon acro's with a green base completely loose all of the green and the maroon is now a pale pinkish white.

As I like to start off slow when changing things I only used a 1/4 of the recommended amount of all products.

reef salt, phos minus, carbon, zeomix, and all of the supplements a,v,e,b.
2 drops each of bac and carbon source.
Using vertex 1.5 lt zeo reactor and only ran it at 60gph
Alk- 7.7
Cal-415
Mag-1380
PO4- 0.0-0.04
NO3- 4

On a side note. I have never ran carbon though a reactor. Always passive in a filter bag.
Any thoughts? I pulled the reactor out 2 days ago and already see an improvment. So something wasn't right. Thanks

plyle02 · 09/23/2016, 04:52 AM

Depending on your fish load, how often you feed, and your skimmer's ability to process the nutrients, you maybe do not need Zeo Mix at this time. While the stack method is great, it really works best when the user has a high bioload. I would always have carbon in a carbon/bac driven system, as far as I know, sort of a staple. Double check the skimmer, make sure it is pulling dry skimm as well. Sounds like your nutrients are lowering, so the corals are making adjustments, the pigments should return, but you will see tones a bit lighter, those deep dark saturated colors will pull back, but what you seem to be experiencing is paling of corals due to lack of food, so I would feed the fish more, and continue dosing to maintain low values. Cheers

Mr.Fishtank · 09/23/2016, 09:06 AM

Thank you Perry.
I have a Reefer 450 display with 14 fish. Most of which are small but have two 5-6 in tangs. I thought that would be the top of a bio load recommendation for a 90. As for the zeomix. Last night I put the reactor back online but only using zeomix in it.

I did not know that you had to run AC with a bac system. But will take your advice and use it but in a filter bag in the sump. And will look at my skimmer and skim drier.

Mr.Fishtank · 09/23/2016, 10:33 AM

If you had a 95 gallon total water volume. What amount of the AF products would you start with? And or how much did you start with and I can take 20% from that? Right now I am dosing 3 drops of carbon and bac. 3 drops of a,v every odd day and e,b every even day.
When I started the reactor the first time I used 150ml zeomix 100ml of carbon and 100ml of phosminus. Last night when I put the reactor back online I put in 300ml zeomix. I am also doing what zeovit instructions state and running it on for 3hrs then off for 3hrs ect... at a flow rate of 50 gph. Hopefully this will help ease the system into it.

Can you pump these stones like zeovit's to release the mulm?
Sorry for all the Q's. But if you don't ask you will never learn.

CIR2000 · 09/23/2016, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plyle02

Probiotic is designed to use with the Probiotic based program. Otherwise, both Probiotic and Reef Salt are similarly formulated.
Cheers

If I understood well is better to use reef salt ! Correct ?

Alfrareef · 09/24/2016, 09:40 AM

Hi guys,

I'm dosing FM (Ca,Mg,KH) with Traces 123 and was thinking about using some Aquaforest products to push a little coral growth and colors.
For now I'm just coral food (AF Power food) 3 times per week and was thinking trying to dose AF Energy.
Can you please give me your thoughts about this intention. Is it useless, it's good, it's harmful?

TIA,
AR

cham · 09/26/2016, 03:41 PM

I found a brownish/ redish slime in my component 1 today. It's free floating in the bucket and attached to the airline tube. Is this something to be concerned about?

My corals have been looking bad lately and I'm wondering if this could be the culprit

Mr.Fishtank · 09/26/2016, 05:11 PM

I haven't seen anything in my comp 1 or 2. But comp 3 does not dissolve all the crystals. With some of us having bad issues with their products I'm thinking that we are getting contaminated or bad batches. Maybe quality control is lacking and that some component's were overdosed with something. Just my thought.

Mr.Fishtank · 09/28/2016, 07:15 PM

Post correction. Comp 1 is not dissolving. 2 and 3 seem fine.

CIR2000 · 10/16/2016, 03:45 PM

Usually I have in my Sump the coal, which I change every 15 days. I'm using Aquaforest "Component 1+2+3" is correct using constantly the coal in Sump ?

Inviato dal mio iPad utilizzando Tapatalk

Mr.Fishtank · 10/16/2016, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIR2000

Usually I have in my Sump the coal, which I change every 15 days. I'm using Aquaforest "Component 1+2+3" is correct using constantly the coal in Sump ?

Inviato dal mio iPad utilizzando Tapatalk

If your referring to the GAC then yes you can have it in a media bag placed in the sump. If this is you first time using GAC I would start with 1/8-1/4 of the recommended amount to not strip your system too fast.

CIR2000 · 10/17/2016, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fishtank

If your referring to the GAC then yes you can have it in a media bag placed in the sump. If this is you first time using GAC I would start with 1/8-1/4 of the recommended amount to not strip your system too fast.

I'm sorry but I do not know what is the GAC ! I'm using this...

and... I use the recommended quantity every 15 days. I'm doing it wrong ?

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bobssecrtsn · 10/20/2016, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIR2000

I'm sorry but I do not know what is the GAC ! I'm using this...

and... I use the recommended quantity every 15 days. I'm doing it wrong ?

Inviato dal mio iPad utilizzando Tapatalk

that is carbon, gac is the same but removes more DOCS with less. kinda like alittle goes a long ways

Alfrareef · 10/22/2016, 04:25 PM

Hi guys,
Started to use some AF products. ABE and would like to know If we should store the bottles in the fridge.
Please help.
Rgds,
AR

plyle02 · 10/22/2016, 06:07 PM

No it is not necessary to refrigerate

09/19/2016, 07:52 AM	#202
iLLwiLL Codename: Dutchess Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the danger zone Posts: 933	Also, I noticed there is no component K for sale individually (like AB&C), is buying component strong the only way to get component K, or is it just kallium? Eventually I'd like to have a 15 gallon tall sectioned off into 3 parts under my stand for roughly 15L reservoirs of each component and I'm looking for the most economical way to do so. __________________ Shallow 80 sps grow out and a Tech 70 softie / macro / gorg seahorse play pen.

09/20/2016, 09:19 AM	#203
Felixc Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: AB Posts: 408	aquaforest Aquaforest : I find the concentration of Component 123 solution is a bit too light for my use and wondering if it's OK to double the amount of each element to make it twice as strong to reduce the frequency mixing new batches. Below is what what I would mix into three 4L containers. Bottle 1: AF Calcium~ 100 grams per 1 liter AF Magnesium~ 20 grams per 1 liter Component A Strong~ 10ml per 1 liter Component B Strong~ 10ml per 1 liter Bottle 2: AF KH Buffer~ 160 grams per 1 liter Component C Strong~ 10ml per 1 liter Bottle 3: AF Reef Mineral Salt~ 50 grams per 1 liter Component K Strong~ 10ml per 1 liter * KH buffer is currently not available in CANADA, when do you expect it to be in stock? In the meantime, would it be OK to use baking soda as a substitute?**

09/22/2016, 02:59 PM	#210
plyle02 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lake Helen, FL Posts: 5,526	Probiotic is designed to use with the Probiotic based program. Otherwise, both Probiotic and Reef Salt are similarly formulated. Cheers __________________ Perry "Anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" ~Buddha~ Current Tank Info: 50 Gallon AIO Cube, Aquamaxx WS-1 Skimmer, LED/ Hybrid 4x24 watt t5

09/23/2016, 04:52 AM	#212
plyle02 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lake Helen, FL Posts: 5,526	Depending on your fish load, how often you feed, and your skimmer's ability to process the nutrients, you maybe do not need Zeo Mix at this time. While the stack method is great, it really works best when the user has a high bioload. I would always have carbon in a carbon/bac driven system, as far as I know, sort of a staple. Double check the skimmer, make sure it is pulling dry skimm as well. Sounds like your nutrients are lowering, so the corals are making adjustments, the pigments should return, but you will see tones a bit lighter, those deep dark saturated colors will pull back, but what you seem to be experiencing is paling of corals due to lack of food, so I would feed the fish more, and continue dosing to maintain low values. Cheers __________________ Perry "Anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" ~Buddha~ Current Tank Info: 50 Gallon AIO Cube, Aquamaxx WS-1 Skimmer, LED/ Hybrid 4x24 watt t5

09/26/2016, 03:41 PM	#217
cham Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 3,632	I found a brownish/ redish slime in my component 1 today. It's free floating in the bucket and attached to the airline tube. Is this something to be concerned about? My corals have been looking bad lately and I'm wondering if this could be the culprit __________________ The more I learn about reefing the less I know. Current Tank Info: -SPS-120g Rimless Starfire, Garage sump/equip room with rimless frag tank, reefkeeper & Apex Jr, Reeflo Super Dart Gold return, ATI Powermodule, four Vortech MP40's, SRO XP3000 cone w/self cleaning head, two reefbrite LED, AF three part balling

09/20/2016, 02:06 PM	#204
CIR2000 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 36	I will start to using in the next days "Component 1+2+3"... but if I want adjust Ca, Mg and KH is correct to use "Ca Plus", "Mg Plus" and "KH Plus" ? Thanks

09/21/2016, 07:33 AM	#207
Alfrareef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Portugal Posts: 405	I thought 123 was to regulate the Ca,Mg and KH... let's go aquaforest website again...

09/21/2016, 09:04 PM	#209
CIR2000 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 36	In combination with the Component 1+2+3 which salt of the Aquaforest line is better to use ?

09/22/2016, 05:38 PM	#211
Mr.Fishtank Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 275	Perry. I started using AF products about a month ago, and my corals started losing a lot of color. Mainly greens but also reds. Had one of my dark maroon acro's with a green base completely loose all of the green and the maroon is now a pale pinkish white. As I like to start off slow when changing things I only used a 1/4 of the recommended amount of all products. reef salt, phos minus, carbon, zeomix, and all of the supplements a,v,e,b. 2 drops each of bac and carbon source. Using vertex 1.5 lt zeo reactor and only ran it at 60gph Alk- 7.7 Cal-415 Mag-1380 PO4- 0.0-0.04 NO3- 4 On a side note. I have never ran carbon though a reactor. Always passive in a filter bag. Any thoughts? I pulled the reactor out 2 days ago and already see an improvment. So something wasn't right. Thanks

09/23/2016, 09:06 AM	#213
Mr.Fishtank Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 275	Thank you Perry. I have a Reefer 450 display with 14 fish. Most of which are small but have two 5-6 in tangs. I thought that would be the top of a bio load recommendation for a 90. As for the zeomix. Last night I put the reactor back online but only using zeomix in it. I did not know that you had to run AC with a bac system. But will take your advice and use it but in a filter bag in the sump. And will look at my skimmer and skim drier.

09/23/2016, 10:33 AM	#214
Mr.Fishtank Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 275	If you had a 95 gallon total water volume. What amount of the AF products would you start with? And or how much did you start with and I can take 20% from that? Right now I am dosing 3 drops of carbon and bac. 3 drops of a,v every odd day and e,b every even day. When I started the reactor the first time I used 150ml zeomix 100ml of carbon and 100ml of phosminus. Last night when I put the reactor back online I put in 300ml zeomix. I am also doing what zeovit instructions state and running it on for 3hrs then off for 3hrs ect... at a flow rate of 50 gph. Hopefully this will help ease the system into it. Can you pump these stones like zeovit's to release the mulm? Sorry for all the Q's. But if you don't ask you will never learn.

09/24/2016, 09:40 AM	#216
Alfrareef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Portugal Posts: 405	Hi guys, I'm dosing FM (Ca,Mg,KH) with Traces 123 and was thinking about using some Aquaforest products to push a little coral growth and colors. For now I'm just coral food (AF Power food) 3 times per week and was thinking trying to dose AF Energy. Can you please give me your thoughts about this intention. Is it useless, it's good, it's harmful? TIA, AR

09/26/2016, 05:11 PM	#218
Mr.Fishtank Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 275	I haven't seen anything in my comp 1 or 2. But comp 3 does not dissolve all the crystals. With some of us having bad issues with their products I'm thinking that we are getting contaminated or bad batches. Maybe quality control is lacking and that some component's were overdosed with something. Just my thought.

09/28/2016, 07:15 PM	#219
Mr.Fishtank Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 275	Post correction. Comp 1 is not dissolving. 2 and 3 seem fine.

10/16/2016, 03:45 PM	#220
CIR2000 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 36	Usually I have in my Sump the coal, which I change every 15 days. I'm using Aquaforest "Component 1+2+3" is correct using constantly the coal in Sump ? Inviato dal mio iPad utilizzando Tapatalk

10/22/2016, 04:25 PM	#224
Alfrareef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Portugal Posts: 405	Hi guys, Started to use some AF products. ABE and would like to know If we should store the bottles in the fridge. Please help. Rgds, AR

10/22/2016, 06:07 PM	#225
plyle02 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lake Helen, FL Posts: 5,526	No it is not necessary to refrigerate __________________ Perry "Anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" ~Buddha~ Current Tank Info: 50 Gallon AIO Cube, Aquamaxx WS-1 Skimmer, LED/ Hybrid 4x24 watt t5