Vertex Skimmer club - Page 29

jpc763 · 01/11/2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by jpc763
All,

I just got my In250 today! It is going in a 75g Sump under a 125g tank.

...SNIP...
Here a couple of pics of it assembled...

I have a couple of questions
1) I notice from other pics that people are not installing the PVC after the Elboe (on the return). Why?
2) I can't see a picture of anyone with the airline attached to the venturi nipple. Why?
3) I pulled the impeller out and rinsed per PA's instructions above. That is one hard thing to pull apart! Am I doing something wrong?

OK I will wait on answers while I fill a tub with water and vinegar!

Of course I still don't have my new tank yet

John

So I ran it in a vinegar solution for 10 hours before the pump siezed up. As I said in my original post, I pulled the impeller out and rinsed it out thoroughly, but after 10 hours it just stopped!

I looked at the impeller shaft under a magnifying glass and there is clearly some scoring.

I have reassembled everything (after cleaning the milky white substance out of the impeller) and started it up at 8:30 this morning.

This really lowers the confidence in this product.

A call to PA will follow.

John

jpc763 · 01/11/2009, 10:55 AM

I reported the problem to PA this morning and within 1/2 hour I received confirmation that I will receive a replacement impeller!

As mentioned in this thread before, excellent customer service!

John

frenchie · 01/11/2009, 11:00 AM

hey john which model did you get

RaveChild · 01/11/2009, 11:06 AM

I just ordered the in180. I'll post pics once it is up and running

EvMiBo · 01/11/2009, 12:18 PM

I still won't have mine up and running for another ~two weeks. I'm honestly kind of expecting my pump to fail since I know I got one from the first batches. I'm still going to attempt to take this apart (wish me luck first time!) and clean things off..

Could anyone possibly snap some pictures of what I'm going to be looking for? And maybe a little time-line of pictures while taking it apart? I would really appreciate it, and I think it would make this thread even better

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jpc763 · 01/11/2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by d.french
hey john which model did you get

IN250

jpc763 · 01/11/2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by EvMiBo
I still won't have mine up and running for another ~two weeks. I'm honestly kind of expecting my pump to fail since I know I got one from the first batches. I'm still going to attempt to take this apart (wish me luck first time!) and clean things off..

Could anyone possibly snap some pictures of what I'm going to be looking for? And maybe a little time-line of pictures while taking it apart? I would really appreciate it, and I think it would make this thread even better .

If mine freezes up again, I will photo document it! So far still running 3.5 hours on the rebuild.

For the IM250, getting the impeller out is a bear. I carefully had to use plyers to get a grip on the shaft and pull the whole thing out since the shaft was frozen in the impeller. That was a little unnerving since I snapped a shaft on my QuietOne doing the same thing.

When I originally put it together and rinsed out the parts, the shaft came out on its own with finger pull. Getting the impeller out was more difficult since the magnet is pretty strong.

Hope that helps. John

frenchie · 01/11/2009, 01:10 PM

didn't think they had any problems with 250 model.

newmoon · 01/11/2009, 01:10 PM

BAD NEWS!

After running REALLY well for some time, I checked my IN 180 and guess what? Not running.
I remove the pump, clean the impeller etc, then it starts to run again. Then after 30 minutes, it stops again!
I clean it AGAIN, this time with Vinegar, put it back, it starts, thank God! After 20 minutes, it stops again.

PA contacted. I REALLY hope this is not a problem that will happens sooner or later with this pump. If I hear anymore problems with it I think I will send it back for a full refund,which is too bad, cause when this skimmer it's working perfectly, it really shines!

frenchie · 01/11/2009, 01:12 PM

impellar is hard to pull out of 180's also. sucks to here yours froze up hopefully new impellar works great for ya.

newmoon · 01/11/2009, 01:12 PM

Octo X200 is back on the tank. I'm glad I have a "back up" skimmer or I would be even more ****ed off.

DolbyDinosaur · 01/11/2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by newmoon
Octo X200 is back on the tank. I'm glad I have a "back up" skimmer or I would be even more ****ed off.

You could always just pull the pump off the Octo and toss it onto the Vertex. IMO, the Vertex has a way better body/neck transition than the Octo.

ernordstrom · 01/11/2009, 03:12 PM

My impeller has been super loud the last couple of days, I took it apart today and it seems a little wobbily and the shaft feels like it has been worn out. When you slide the impeller you can feel the grroves in its surface. . It has also started (just today) a ton of microbubbles into my display from the skimmer. This is the first time I have had microbubbles in the tank. I contacted PA before about the impeller sounding really bad but I haven't recieved a replacement yet or an answer of whether or not I am getting one. Mine hasn't seized up but I think it is a matter of time. I also got a crazed colelction cup t hat I am waiting on...

newmoon · 01/11/2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by DolbyDinosaur
You could always just pull the pump off the Octo and toss it onto the Vertex. IMO, the Vertex has a way better body/neck transition than the Octo.

Yes, tried that, it doesn't fit right away as I said before. Need to adapt it.

newmoon · 01/11/2009, 04:10 PM

Here's how I'm running my Octo X200. Meshmoded and with the IN-180 long neck.

The long neck makes the Octo foam much more stable.

ecoreefer · 01/12/2009, 11:09 AM

Man it sucks that some people are having issues. Hopefully the manufacturer remedied these for future shipments. Let us know how you make out newmoon.

tangtang clown · 01/12/2009, 11:17 AM

MOON
Does the IN 180 cup fit right on the 200? Are they are direct replacement?

just dave · 01/12/2009, 05:52 PM

Well I just put a 180 in service a couple of days ago. So far so good.

Phanman1 · 01/12/2009, 09:30 PM

OK so I just recieved my Vertex 180 after work, and after running it for 5mins in the sump the pumped just stopped altogether.... not pleased. will take it apart and see if i can get it unjammed. I have sent an email to JL to see what they are going to do about it thou.

ernordstrom · 01/12/2009, 09:48 PM

That sucks balls. I woke up this morning to find my impeller seized up. PA said they are sending a new one when they get the shipment in with the cups and impellers...I HOPE it works longer than a week with a new impeller...

spoofer · 01/12/2009, 10:07 PM

dude, that sucks sorry to here, I hope there is going to be a better set of pumps avaliable in the future

Whyireef · 01/13/2009, 02:28 PM

I'm a couple of weeks into my replacement needle wheel / impeller and it has been flawless and silent with no hiccups whatsoever.

As I said earlier in this thread, the original impeller/NW did not spin perfectly true and seized up. The replacement is perfectly symmetrical.

Hope this helps/encourages folks.

lifemaker · 01/13/2009, 02:55 PM

I just bought a used IN80 skimmer, and it is VERY loud.
Does anyone have the manufacturer's contact information? I couldn't get in touch with my seller and don't know where he got it from, thanks in advance!!!

ecoreefer · 01/13/2009, 03:10 PM

Thanks for the info whyireef. Good to hear your problem seems to be resolved. I'm firing mine up tonight to see if I have any issues.

jpc763 · 01/13/2009, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lifemaker
I just bought a used IN80 skimmer, and it is VERY loud.
Does anyone have the manufacturer's contact information? I couldn't get in touch with my seller and don't know where he got it from, thanks in advance!!!

I don't think you will be able to find the manufacturer info. I would suggest contacting Premium Aquatics and asking how to resolve. You may have to purchase a new impeller assembly.

01/11/2009, 11:00 AM	#703
frenchie Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,730	hey john which model did you get __________________ Darrick slash member 24 gallon nano cube, LED lights, zoanthids, shrooms Current Tank Info: 93 gallon cube, ecotech LED, swc 160 cone skimmer, lots of softies

01/11/2009, 12:18 PM	#705
EvMiBo VictoriaConcordiaCrescit Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ft. Myers, FL Posts: 1,929	I still won't have mine up and running for another ~two weeks. I'm honestly kind of expecting my pump to fail since I know I got one from the first batches. I'm still going to attempt to take this apart (wish me luck first time!) and clean things off.. Could anyone possibly snap some pictures of what I'm going to be looking for? And maybe a little time-line of pictures while taking it apart? I would really appreciate it, and I think it would make this thread even better . __________________ Evan \| DSA 135g Peninsula

01/11/2009, 01:10 PM	#708
frenchie Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,730	didn't think they had any problems with 250 model. __________________ Darrick slash member 24 gallon nano cube, LED lights, zoanthids, shrooms Current Tank Info: 93 gallon cube, ecotech LED, swc 160 cone skimmer, lots of softies

01/11/2009, 01:10 PM	#709
newmoon Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: N. Miami Beach Posts: 1,622	BAD NEWS! After running REALLY well for some time, I checked my IN 180 and guess what? Not running. I remove the pump, clean the impeller etc, then it starts to run again. Then after 30 minutes, it stops again! I clean it AGAIN, this time with Vinegar, put it back, it starts, thank God! After 20 minutes, it stops again. PA contacted. I REALLY hope this is not a problem that will happens sooner or later with this pump. If I hear anymore problems with it I think I will send it back for a full refund,which is too bad, cause when this skimmer it's working perfectly, it really shines! __________________ "But you have heard of me."

01/11/2009, 01:12 PM	#710
frenchie Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,730	impellar is hard to pull out of 180's also. sucks to here yours froze up hopefully new impellar works great for ya. __________________ Darrick slash member 24 gallon nano cube, LED lights, zoanthids, shrooms Current Tank Info: 93 gallon cube, ecotech LED, swc 160 cone skimmer, lots of softies

01/11/2009, 10:55 AM	#702
jpc763 Nothing to see Move along Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 800	I reported the problem to PA this morning and within 1/2 hour I received confirmation that I will receive a replacement impeller! As mentioned in this thread before, excellent customer service! John

01/11/2009, 11:06 AM	#704
RaveChild Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 53	I just ordered the in180. I'll post pics once it is up and running

01/11/2009, 01:12 PM	#711
newmoon Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: N. Miami Beach Posts: 1,622	Octo X200 is back on the tank. I'm glad I have a "back up" skimmer or I would be even more ****ed off. __________________ "But you have heard of me."

01/11/2009, 03:12 PM	#713
ernordstrom Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: JAX,FL Posts: 266	My impeller has been super loud the last couple of days, I took it apart today and it seems a little wobbily and the shaft feels like it has been worn out. When you slide the impeller you can feel the grroves in its surface. . It has also started (just today) a ton of microbubbles into my display from the skimmer. This is the first time I have had microbubbles in the tank. I contacted PA before about the impeller sounding really bad but I haven't recieved a replacement yet or an answer of whether or not I am getting one. Mine hasn't seized up but I think it is a matter of time. I also got a crazed colelction cup t hat I am waiting on...

01/11/2009, 04:10 PM	#715
newmoon Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: N. Miami Beach Posts: 1,622	Here's how I'm running my Octo X200. Meshmoded and with the IN-180 long neck. The long neck makes the Octo foam much more stable. __________________ "But you have heard of me."

01/12/2009, 11:09 AM	#716
ecoreefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pottstown, PA Posts: 100	Man it sucks that some people are having issues. Hopefully the manufacturer remedied these for future shipments. Let us know how you make out newmoon.

01/12/2009, 11:17 AM	#717
tangtang clown Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The DUB, NC Posts: 2,711	MOON Does the IN 180 cup fit right on the 200? Are they are direct replacement? __________________ Mind over chatter.

01/12/2009, 05:52 PM	#718
just dave 11th in '11 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cordova, TN Posts: 4,394	Well I just put a 180 in service a couple of days ago. So far so good.

01/12/2009, 09:30 PM	#719
Phanman1 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 64	OK so I just recieved my Vertex 180 after work, and after running it for 5mins in the sump the pumped just stopped altogether.... not pleased. will take it apart and see if i can get it unjammed. I have sent an email to JL to see what they are going to do about it thou.

01/12/2009, 09:48 PM	#720
ernordstrom Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: JAX,FL Posts: 266	That sucks balls. I woke up this morning to find my impeller seized up. PA said they are sending a new one when they get the shipment in with the cups and impellers...I HOPE it works longer than a week with a new impeller...

01/12/2009, 10:07 PM	#721
spoofer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Uptown-Chicago, IL Posts: 654	dude, that sucks sorry to here, I hope there is going to be a better set of pumps avaliable in the future __________________ "Nothing good ever happened fast in a Reef Aquarium- there is no quick fix's to Reef tanks!" Current Tank Info: 120g Tech Tank, Vortech MP40, Apex, ATI 8x54, Vertex IN-180, Mag 9.5, Phos & Carb Reactors, Kalk Drip via reefdosingpumps.com sentry model, 40 gallon Breeder DYI Sump

01/13/2009, 02:28 PM	#722
Whyireef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington DC Posts: 54	I'm a couple of weeks into my replacement needle wheel / impeller and it has been flawless and silent with no hiccups whatsoever. As I said earlier in this thread, the original impeller/NW did not spin perfectly true and seized up. The replacement is perfectly symmetrical. Hope this helps/encourages folks.

01/13/2009, 02:55 PM	#723
lifemaker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5	I just bought a used IN80 skimmer, and it is VERY loud. Does anyone have the manufacturer's contact information? I couldn't get in touch with my seller and don't know where he got it from, thanks in advance!!! __________________ Lifemaker

01/13/2009, 03:10 PM	#724
ecoreefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pottstown, PA Posts: 100	Thanks for the info whyireef. Good to hear your problem seems to be resolved. I'm firing mine up tonight to see if I have any issues.