differences between florida & yuma rics?

Dan Thrash · 04/27/2006, 01:12 PM

since the mushroom forum gets hardly any visitors, i figured i'd also post here. i'm wondering what the main differences between the two types of ricordia are. i've read about them, but i'm still not sure. do floridas have green mouths, while yumas do not? liveaquaria said yumas require stronger lighting than floridas...but from what i've read on here, the opposite seems true. also, from your experience, what tank conditions do each prefer?

i currently have an orange rics with green mouths. i'm thinking he is a florida. he's at the bottom of my 12 gal under 72W PCs and it looks like he is fading in color a bit after 4 days. i think i should move him higher up.

i also have bigger, bright green rics with dark blackish mouths. i was told at the store that they are floridas, but i'm thinking they are yumas. not sure though.... anyway, they are at the bottom too and looking great so far.

thanks,
Dan

Amphiprion · 04/27/2006, 01:16 PM

Well, they are distinctly different species, hailing from entirely different sides of the world. In general, Ricordea florida has very vivid coloration--the oranges, reds, blues that most are used to. Ricordea yuma tend to be a bit more drab by comparison.

aquaman222 · 04/27/2006, 02:01 PM

Yuma's drab? True it is much more common to see drab Yumas than drab Florida ricordea, but you see colorful Yumas available, but they are extremely pricey.

Travis L. Stevens · 04/27/2006, 02:03 PM

Here's a little more information for you with a TON of examples.

Also, read this article for everything that you would ever want to know about Corallimorphs.

psimitry · 04/27/2006, 02:22 PM

It's interesting in that the differences are hard to describe. But if you saw one sitting next to another, you'd be able to see the difference easily.

The best way that I can describe a Yuma vs. a Ric is that the yuma does indeed tend to be a little more drab in coloration. They also tend to have varied long and short tentacles coming off of the body (a Ric's are usually uniform).

Dan Thrash · 04/27/2006, 02:38 PM

travis, you forgot the links.

Cutiewitbooty · 04/27/2006, 03:06 PM

i have both, my yumas are kinda purple/grey color and my florida is alot brighter.

these are pics of mine, they don't really show the true colors though. (crappy camera)

yuma

fla ric

sttroyiii · 04/27/2006, 03:07 PM

This site might help. Im pretty sure its exclusively florida rics. I like the pictures of the rocks that are solid rics side by side. I think they state somewhere on there the pretty ones are from florida, but seeing how they operate there, they might be biased.

http://ricordeas.net/

Travis L. Stevens · 04/27/2006, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan Thrash
travis, you forgot the links.

DOH!

I would have lost my head today if it wasn't tied on.

Link #1 - http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=827087

Link #2 - http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...002/invert.htm

Dan Thrash · 04/27/2006, 03:50 PM

thanks!

cutie,
i have that same florida ric. i noticed the yuma is down by the sand...is the florida up higher in the tank?

when i got my florida, it looked like that. over the past 5 days, i've had it on the sand and its colored all sorta faded to a pale purpleish orange. i moved it higher in the tank...hopefully it will like it better up there.

-Dan

Cutiewitbooty · 04/27/2006, 04:19 PM

the yuma is when i first got it. I put it low untill i could figure out how high i should place it. It's higher now, but i'm thinking of lowering it a little again (just not down to the sand) I have MH over my tank

My ric is over 1/2 way up probally 8" from the surface with a 150watt MH (280watts total fixture) I would move the ric higher if i was you.

psimitry · 04/27/2006, 04:27 PM

Remember, I had a 150W MH over a 19" tall tank. It WAS NOT happy when I moved it out of the light. It was perfectly happy at the middle of the tank almost in the center (right at the light level that my Hammer seems to like).

Dan Thrash · 04/27/2006, 04:44 PM

thanks for the info.

Dan Thrash · 04/27/2006, 04:51 PM

oh btw, two of the green rics are currently puking up brown stringy stuff. what is that? waste after eating? stress? they dont seem unhappy except for the brown stuff.

Craig Lambert · 04/27/2006, 04:59 PM

Travis, or anyone else...

I posted a question about Ricordia the other day but couldn't get any answers. I'm curious how fast they multiply? If you start with a few can you expect so see a significant increase over the corse of a year or so?

Dan Thrash · 04/27/2006, 05:10 PM

someone probably has a better answer than this, but if they are happy, i think ricordia will multiple fairly quickly. i've seen pics of tanks a year old with rocks covered in rics.

Dan Thrash · 04/27/2006, 09:05 PM

bump

Amphiprion · 04/27/2006, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aquaman222
Yuma's drab? True it is much more common to see drab Yumas than drab Florida ricordea, but you see colorful Yumas available, but they are extremely pricey.

No, not all R. yuma tend to be drab, only the more common ones that you see. R. florida is much more colorful on a consistent basis than what you see in R. yuma. I have seen some R. yuma that may be even more colorful than any R. florida I have seen.

Cutiewitbooty · 04/28/2006, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan Thrash
oh btw, two of the green rics are currently puking up brown stringy stuff. what is that? waste after eating? stress? they dont seem unhappy except for the brown stuff.

it might just be pooping

Or it could be expelling it's algae if it's really stressed, but it doesn't sound like thats the case. But you did say the it looks like it's he bleaching a little, so it might be.

Travis L. Stevens · 04/28/2006, 08:55 AM

Sorry, I was gone. I would have replied sooner. I'm not an expert on Corallimorphs, but I sure deal with them a lot. So, take any of my advice with a grain of salt. Everyone's experience will vary.

Quote:

Originally posted by Craig Lambert
Travis, or anyone else...

I posted a question about Ricordia the other day but couldn't get any answers. I'm curious how fast they multiply? If you start with a few can you expect so see a significant increase over the corse of a year or so?

It depends. Some people have great success with them multiplying. I have four different R. yuma and R. florida, and none of them have split once in over six months. My opinion is they are like Zoanthids. They won't do anything for a long time, and then all of the sudden they just start multiplying like crazy.

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan Thrash
oh btw, two of the green rics are currently puking up brown stringy stuff. what is that? waste after eating? stress? they dont seem unhappy except for the brown stuff.

Most likely it is just deficating. It's hard to tell without a picture. If you see white, squiggly string stuff coming out, that is its innards. This would mean that they are stressed. They usually recover, but sometimes will just fade away.

Dan Thrash · 04/28/2006, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cutiewitbooty
it might just be pooping Or it could be expelling it's algae if it's really stressed, but it doesn't sound like thats the case. But you did say the it looks like it's he bleaching a little, so it might be.

yeah, i think it was just expelling waste. like travis said, they spit up white stuff when i first acclimated, but that is to be expected. the greens seem fine. the single orange ric looked like it was loosing color. i moved it midway up in the tank yesterday, so we'll see what it looks like when i get home from work. last night, when the lights went out, it already looked like it was more colorful. so i hope it'll like it there.

04/27/2006, 02:01 PM	#3
aquaman222 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Gallatin, TN Posts: 351	Yuma's drab? True it is much more common to see drab Yumas than drab Florida ricordea, but you see colorful Yumas available, but they are extremely pricey. __________________ Five tangs in a 10 gallon. No problem, just use this Skilter filter. Good to go. Thanks Current Tank Info: 175 gallon mixed reef

04/27/2006, 02:03 PM	#4
Travis L. Stevens Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Perry, OK Posts: 13,946	Here's a little more information for you with a TON of examples. Also, read this article for everything that you would ever want to know about Corallimorphs. __________________ Travis Stevens Current Tank Info: Restarting 28g Bowfront

04/27/2006, 03:06 PM	#7
Cutiewitbooty Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alaska For 18 Years, Now Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 2,795	i have both, my yumas are kinda purple/grey color and my florida is alot brighter. these are pics of mine, they don't really show the true colors though. (crappy camera) yuma fla ric __________________ WARNING: Taking my advice may result in personal injury and/or jail time. ~Amber~

04/27/2006, 04:19 PM	#11
Cutiewitbooty Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alaska For 18 Years, Now Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 2,795	the yuma is when i first got it. I put it low untill i could figure out how high i should place it. It's higher now, but i'm thinking of lowering it a little again (just not down to the sand) I have MH over my tank My ric is over 1/2 way up probally 8" from the surface with a 150watt MH (280watts total fixture) I would move the ric higher if i was you. __________________ WARNING: Taking my advice may result in personal injury and/or jail time. ~Amber~

04/27/2006, 04:59 PM	#15
Craig Lambert Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,897	Travis, or anyone else... I posted a question about Ricordia the other day but couldn't get any answers. I'm curious how fast they multiply? If you start with a few can you expect so see a significant increase over the corse of a year or so? __________________ "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will spend all day in a boat drinking beer." Current Tank Info: 75G Tank, 29G Sump, 100lbs LR, AquaC EV-180, Iwaki MD-20RT return Tunze nano streams 4X54 t-5/Icecap Ballast & SLR's 2x110 vho actinic

04/27/2006, 01:12 PM	#1
Dan Thrash Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 578	differences between florida & yuma rics? since the mushroom forum gets hardly any visitors, i figured i'd also post here. i'm wondering what the main differences between the two types of ricordia are. i've read about them, but i'm still not sure. do floridas have green mouths, while yumas do not? liveaquaria said yumas require stronger lighting than floridas...but from what i've read on here, the opposite seems true. also, from your experience, what tank conditions do each prefer? i currently have an orange rics with green mouths. i'm thinking he is a florida. he's at the bottom of my 12 gal under 72W PCs and it looks like he is fading in color a bit after 4 days. i think i should move him higher up. i also have bigger, bright green rics with dark blackish mouths. i was told at the store that they are floridas, but i'm thinking they are yumas. not sure though.... anyway, they are at the bottom too and looking great so far. thanks, Dan

04/27/2006, 01:16 PM	#2
Amphiprion Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 6,611	Well, they are distinctly different species, hailing from entirely different sides of the world. In general, Ricordea florida has very vivid coloration--the oranges, reds, blues that most are used to. Ricordea yuma tend to be a bit more drab by comparison. __________________ You've done it now, haven't you? Current Tank Info: 40g breeder patch reef w/ seagrass; 2-250w XM 10K; Vortech MP40wES & MP10wES; BM Curve 7 skimmer; carbon & occasional GFO

04/27/2006, 02:22 PM	#5
psimitry Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,560	It's interesting in that the differences are hard to describe. But if you saw one sitting next to another, you'd be able to see the difference easily. The best way that I can describe a Yuma vs. a Ric is that the yuma does indeed tend to be a little more drab in coloration. They also tend to have varied long and short tentacles coming off of the body (a Ric's are usually uniform).

04/27/2006, 02:38 PM	#6
Dan Thrash Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 578	travis, you forgot the links.

04/27/2006, 03:07 PM	#8
sttroyiii Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 378	This site might help. Im pretty sure its exclusively florida rics. I like the pictures of the rocks that are solid rics side by side. I think they state somewhere on there the pretty ones are from florida, but seeing how they operate there, they might be biased. http://ricordeas.net/

04/27/2006, 03:50 PM	#10
Dan Thrash Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 578	thanks! cutie, i have that same florida ric. i noticed the yuma is down by the sand...is the florida up higher in the tank? when i got my florida, it looked like that. over the past 5 days, i've had it on the sand and its colored all sorta faded to a pale purpleish orange. i moved it higher in the tank...hopefully it will like it better up there. -Dan

04/27/2006, 04:27 PM	#12
psimitry Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,560	Remember, I had a 150W MH over a 19" tall tank. It WAS NOT happy when I moved it out of the light. It was perfectly happy at the middle of the tank almost in the center (right at the light level that my Hammer seems to like).

04/27/2006, 04:44 PM	#13
Dan Thrash Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 578	thanks for the info.

04/27/2006, 04:51 PM	#14
Dan Thrash Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 578	oh btw, two of the green rics are currently puking up brown stringy stuff. what is that? waste after eating? stress? they dont seem unhappy except for the brown stuff.

04/27/2006, 05:10 PM	#16
Dan Thrash Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 578	someone probably has a better answer than this, but if they are happy, i think ricordia will multiple fairly quickly. i've seen pics of tanks a year old with rocks covered in rics.

04/27/2006, 09:05 PM	#17
Dan Thrash Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 578	bump