Next fish to choose

xbambamx · 10/05/2006, 01:17 PM

I have a 75g with a HOB filter, skimmer and a powerhead pushing 300gph.. I have about 50 or 60 lbs of LR and 45 lbs of LS and crushed coral.. my list of critters includes:

INVERTS
Scarlet Cleaner Shrimp
Peppermint Shrimp
20 Blue leg Hermits
20 Nassarius Snails
Featherduster
Red emerald crab (awkward I know)
Sally Lightfoot Crab
Serpent Seastar
Sandsifting Seastar

CORAL
Frag of neon green zoos (25-30)
New Colony of Mushrooms forming (can't tell which kind yet only about a dime size (5-10))

FISH
Gold Stripe Maroon Clown
Domino Damsel
Watchman Goby (Barely ever see this guy)

nmprisons · 10/05/2006, 01:21 PM

I would get rid of the domino damsel and look at adding a pair of some kind of fairy wrasse.

xbambamx · 10/05/2006, 01:24 PM

OKay that has came into mind plenty (getting rid of damsel) But how would I go about that without removing all my LR and such.. Any other opinions?

SDguy · 10/05/2006, 01:26 PM

Fish trap or barbless fish hook. If you're really patient, feed in a net. After weeks to months, he'll eat while in the net...then just scoop out.

xbambamx · 10/05/2006, 01:35 PM

how exactly do I make a fish trap?

geekreef_05 · 10/05/2006, 01:39 PM

sixline!

xbambamx · 10/05/2006, 01:40 PM

Yeah I do like the sixline wrasses.. Keep em coming guys my LFS gets a new order of critters in tomorrow!

SDguy · 10/05/2006, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xbambamx
how exactly do I make a fish trap?

They sell them online...I think marinedepot and/or Dr Fosters and Smith.

rockindacheeks · 10/05/2006, 01:45 PM

some kind of basslet like a black cap or swissguard. or a maybe a couple pseudochromis. I have a yellow candy hogfish and that guy is awesome as well.

Travis L. Stevens · 10/05/2006, 01:49 PM

If you like an agressive tank, that's do, but here is what I would choose.

Step one - make sure your water parameters are fine. That includes Temperature, Specific Gravity, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, Phosphate, pH, Calcium, Alkalinity, and Magnesium. If you have any detectable Nitrate over 20ppm, avoid adding the first addition and do some water changes.

First Addition
10-20 Red Legged Hermits
20 Nassarius Snails
10-20 Astrea Snails
1-2 Mexican Turbo Snails
10-20 Cerith Snails.
Low ball them. Once in the tank, wait 1-2 weeks.

Second Addition
1-2 Serpent Star or Brittle Star (Not Green Brittle Star)
Wait up to a week

Third Addition
With your tank's Nitrates down to 10-5ppm or preferably less to none
1 Gold Striped Maroon
Wait two weeks for the bioload to catch up and for the sand to start to populate with more fauna

Fourth Addition
With your tank's Nitrates down to 5 or less
1 Cleaner Shrimp
1+ Peppermint Shrimp
Green Emerald Crab (See Below)
Wait a week

Fifth Addition
Yellow Watchman Goby
With sufficient lighting
Zoanthids
Mushrooms
Wait two weeks.

Sixth Addition
You should be able to add a single fish or possibly two small ones and other corals and invertebrates as long as your nitrates are good. Watch for aggressiveness from your Gold Striped Maroon if you choose to add it.

Avoid These
Featherduster - Requires constant feeding of phytoplankton to ensure survivability
Red Mithrax Crab - Often predates on more than just algae. Get a Green Mithrax Crab.
Sally Lightfoot Crab - When they get bigger, they will predate on small fish and invertebrates
Sandsifting Seastar - They need ample space and a well developed sand bed. Even then, sometimes they don't make it long
Gold Stripe Maroon Clown - It might be better to look more into a calmer clownfish
Domino Damsel - Far too aggressive
Watchman Goby (Barely ever see this guy) - Needs to have an established sand bed to sift through unless you are vigilant with feedings.

Travis L. Stevens · 10/05/2006, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rockindacheeks
some kind of basslet like a black cap or swissguard. or a maybe a couple pseudochromis. I have a yellow candy hogfish and that guy is awesome as well.

Not with Cleaner or Peppermint Shrimp. Those fish can make quick work. The Black Cap Basslet doesn't chow on shrimp as much as the others, but it will. They are also one of the more aggressive Basslets. I would look more into a Royal Gramma.

xbambamx · 10/05/2006, 01:55 PM

Trav all the critters I mentioned I already have lol. I'm trying to get ideas for another fish. And also the red mithrax is a predator? I didn't know that. I'll have to take him out ASAP. Any clue to how? And I like more of a reef, community, non aggressive!

Travis L. Stevens · 10/05/2006, 02:25 PM

OOOooohhh..... Oops

I thought that was a potential stocking list. The Red Mithrax Crab isn't a predator, but an opportunistic feeder. It's uncommon to see them actually NOT eat anything that we aquarists consider desirable. Some only nip at clams, others nip at Zoas, others eat Coralline Algae, and so on. You might be lucky and find one that will be fine or what it does enjoy eating, you don't mind. I was the final owner of a Red Mithrax Crab that went around our club to three different people. It prefered LPS

xbambamx · 10/05/2006, 04:46 PM

Whats a good way to get him out? Funny enough the same day I put him in there my green mithrax crab died. =/ lol. My zoos seem fine, but still any more suggestions guys?

10/05/2006, 01:17 PM	#1
xbambamx Moved On Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 535	Next fish to choose I have a 75g with a HOB filter, skimmer and a powerhead pushing 300gph.. I have about 50 or 60 lbs of LR and 45 lbs of LS and crushed coral.. my list of critters includes: INVERTS Scarlet Cleaner Shrimp Peppermint Shrimp 20 Blue leg Hermits 20 Nassarius Snails Featherduster Red emerald crab (awkward I know) Sally Lightfoot Crab Serpent Seastar Sandsifting Seastar CORAL Frag of neon green zoos (25-30) New Colony of Mushrooms forming (can't tell which kind yet only about a dime size (5-10)) FISH Gold Stripe Maroon Clown Domino Damsel Watchman Goby (Barely ever see this guy)

10/05/2006, 01:21 PM	#2
nmprisons Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,520	I would get rid of the domino damsel and look at adding a pair of some kind of fairy wrasse. __________________ 25gallon tank up and cycling since 7/29/06 Mostly LPS reef (lords, micros, duncans, etc.) with some ricordia florida and zoanthids. Current Tank Info: 25 gallon, 28lbs of Marshall Island and Kaelini Live Rock, 2x65 power compact lighting, IFS Protein Skimmer

10/05/2006, 01:26 PM	#4
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	Fish trap or barbless fish hook. If you're really patient, feed in a net. After weeks to months, he'll eat while in the net...then just scoop out. __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

10/05/2006, 01:39 PM	#6
geekreef_05 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 626	sixline! __________________ A good aquarium is like a beautiful woman. Shes nice to look at but requires daily attention and constantly leaves you broke. Current Tank Info: 15H Mixed Reef, 150 HQI, 25lbs Vanuatu, SSB; 60 gal FOWLR 'Tap Water' Show Tank; 33L Skimmerless Softie Reef w/ BTA, 50/50 PC's, 70lbs Indo

10/05/2006, 01:45 PM	#9
rockindacheeks Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Corona, California Posts: 2,072	some kind of basslet like a black cap or swissguard. or a maybe a couple pseudochromis. I have a yellow candy hogfish and that guy is awesome as well. __________________ My name is Dan, and I'm a closet reefer... Current Tank Info: 28g nanocube

10/05/2006, 01:24 PM	#3
xbambamx Moved On Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 535	OKay that has came into mind plenty (getting rid of damsel) But how would I go about that without removing all my LR and such.. Any other opinions?

10/05/2006, 01:35 PM	#5
xbambamx Moved On Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 535	how exactly do I make a fish trap?

10/05/2006, 01:40 PM	#7
xbambamx Moved On Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 535	Yeah I do like the sixline wrasses.. Keep em coming guys my LFS gets a new order of critters in tomorrow!

10/05/2006, 01:49 PM	#10
Travis L. Stevens Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Perry, OK Posts: 13,946	If you like an agressive tank, that's do, but here is what I would choose. Step one - make sure your water parameters are fine. That includes Temperature, Specific Gravity, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, Phosphate, pH, Calcium, Alkalinity, and Magnesium. If you have any detectable Nitrate over 20ppm, avoid adding the first addition and do some water changes. First Addition 10-20 Red Legged Hermits 20 Nassarius Snails 10-20 Astrea Snails 1-2 Mexican Turbo Snails 10-20 Cerith Snails. Low ball them. Once in the tank, wait 1-2 weeks. Second Addition 1-2 Serpent Star or Brittle Star (Not Green Brittle Star) Wait up to a week Third Addition With your tank's Nitrates down to 10-5ppm or preferably less to none 1 Gold Striped Maroon Wait two weeks for the bioload to catch up and for the sand to start to populate with more fauna Fourth Addition With your tank's Nitrates down to 5 or less 1 Cleaner Shrimp 1+ Peppermint Shrimp Green Emerald Crab (See Below) Wait a week Fifth Addition Yellow Watchman Goby With sufficient lighting Zoanthids Mushrooms Wait two weeks. Sixth Addition You should be able to add a single fish or possibly two small ones and other corals and invertebrates as long as your nitrates are good. Watch for aggressiveness from your Gold Striped Maroon if you choose to add it. Avoid These Featherduster - Requires constant feeding of phytoplankton to ensure survivability Red Mithrax Crab - Often predates on more than just algae. Get a Green Mithrax Crab. Sally Lightfoot Crab - When they get bigger, they will predate on small fish and invertebrates Sandsifting Seastar - They need ample space and a well developed sand bed. Even then, sometimes they don't make it long Gold Stripe Maroon Clown - It might be better to look more into a calmer clownfish Domino Damsel - Far too aggressive Watchman Goby (Barely ever see this guy) - Needs to have an established sand bed to sift through unless you are vigilant with feedings. __________________ Travis Stevens Current Tank Info: Restarting 28g Bowfront

10/05/2006, 01:55 PM	#12
xbambamx Moved On Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 535	Trav all the critters I mentioned I already have lol. I'm trying to get ideas for another fish. And also the red mithrax is a predator? I didn't know that. I'll have to take him out ASAP. Any clue to how? And I like more of a reef, community, non aggressive!

10/05/2006, 02:25 PM	#13
Travis L. Stevens Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Perry, OK Posts: 13,946	OOOooohhh..... Oops I thought that was a potential stocking list. The Red Mithrax Crab isn't a predator, but an opportunistic feeder. It's uncommon to see them actually NOT eat anything that we aquarists consider desirable. Some only nip at clams, others nip at Zoas, others eat Coralline Algae, and so on. You might be lucky and find one that will be fine or what it does enjoy eating, you don't mind. I was the final owner of a Red Mithrax Crab that went around our club to three different people. It prefered LPS __________________ Travis Stevens Current Tank Info: Restarting 28g Bowfront

10/05/2006, 04:46 PM	#14
xbambamx Moved On Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 535	Whats a good way to get him out? Funny enough the same day I put him in there my green mithrax crab died. =/ lol. My zoos seem fine, but still any more suggestions guys?