Successful Upgrade Tips

jcpatella · 12/18/2007, 09:21 AM

I currently have a 55g and will be upgrading to a 90g within the next month. Actually, I'll be posting my thread on this forum!

Anyway, my current 55g is doing very well, but I'm worried I'll have trouble in the move to the 90g because it will be going where the 55g currently is. I'd like to keep the collateral damage to a minimum, especially the inverts.

If anyone has any suggestions or threads that might help me prepare for this day, please chime in. Thanks!

scouncil · 12/18/2007, 09:26 AM

I'm going to watch too. I'll be moving from my 100gal to a 220 gal (different spots, but I'm worried about switching too).

landlord · 12/18/2007, 09:32 AM

Got a spare 10 gallon? Great place to temporarily store those inverts. Siphon off some tank water during a water change and you have a home for those inverts during the move. Just simply start pulling them out as you see them. It may tank a few days but you get the majority of them. At least snail-wise. Hermits are easy to snag as well. It's those pesky shrimp that I had trouble getting. They endied up coming out after moving the liverock.

FWIW --landlord

str8clownr · 12/18/2007, 09:33 AM

quickness is key for me, when i do upgrades or moves, id say have a garbage can with as much of your tank water as possible. put all your rocks in that garbage can. also have two 5 gallon buckets with new saltwater and when taking rocks out of your tank dip them in each 5 gallon bucket and swish them around to clean up detritus, then place them in the garbage can, put the inverts in a smaller bucket and put corals in a shallow bucket with ah eater, chances are the water will get colder so heating them is best,

good luck

jcpatella · 12/18/2007, 09:48 AM

How long can I keep inverts and fish in a temp tank while the new tank is cycling? I'm worried that once I move over the currently live rock into the new tank, levels will go haywire. All the while, the condition of the temp tank water will also be getting worse....

ricks · 12/18/2007, 10:01 AM

I changed a 280 for a 500. Get yourself a separate tank and cycle the new rock for a month first. The most important thing would be having the extra water. You will need enough for the new display, full. And enough to have your temp stock full at the same time. Once the rock has cured and all water parms match. You will be able to make the change with little risk...

Happy Reefing

jcpatella · 12/18/2007, 10:16 AM

Good info. Here's my plan (very general version).

1) Transfer 55g livestock and water to temp tank
2) Save 55g live rock and water in trash cans
3) Empty/move 55g
4) Put 90g in final place, fill with rock and water from trash cans
5) Fill 90g with new salt water

How long might it be for this new water to be ready for the livestock in the temp tank?

LeslieP · 12/18/2007, 10:58 AM

Or, you could move everything from the 55 (rock, inverts, fish, corals) into a plastic baby pool until the new tank is ready. You could even rig up your lights on top of cinder blocks if this will be for an extended time.

jcpatella · 12/18/2007, 11:20 AM

That's actually not that bad of an idea! I'm going to have my skimmer hooked up to the new tank before I put the livestock in, though. How long can fish/corals be in a temp tank without a skimmer? I'd probably have to do daily water changes.

LeslieP · 12/18/2007, 11:58 AM

A lot of people run their tanks without skimmers and I know that mine has been out for a week at a time without too much trouble. Cutting down on feeding would help, or you could see if you could borrow a HOB skimmer from someone if this will be for an extended time.

Cheesy_Puffs · 12/18/2007, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Good info. Here's my plan

1) Transfer 55g livestock and water to temp tank
2) Save 55g live rock and water in trash cans
3) Empty/move 55g
4) Put 90g in final place, fill with rock and water from trash cans
5) Fill 90g with new salt water

If you do this you won't cycle at all. In essence you will be just adding water volume with new salt water which will be good for your tank. All you have to worry about is matching temps. If you have old sand don't put that in, just get some new sand. Your current live rock will seed it.

Don't worry about the pool thing unless you really have to remove the 55g and wait a long time for the new tank. Its best to just keep things simple, as there is less chance for something to go wrong.

12/18/2007, 09:21 AM	#1
jcpatella Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 814	Successful Upgrade Tips I currently have a 55g and will be upgrading to a 90g within the next month. Actually, I'll be posting my thread on this forum! Anyway, my current 55g is doing very well, but I'm worried I'll have trouble in the move to the 90g because it will be going where the 55g currently is. I'd like to keep the collateral damage to a minimum, especially the inverts. If anyone has any suggestions or threads that might help me prepare for this day, please chime in. Thanks! __________________ Dogs - Man's best friend; entropy's greatest catalyst. Current Tank Info: Biocube 8 on the way!

12/18/2007, 09:26 AM	#2
scouncil Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 124	I'm going to watch too. I'll be moving from my 100gal to a 220 gal (different spots, but I'm worried about switching too). __________________ Older chick usually taking abuse from younger whippersnapper club members... Current Tank Info: 220 reef tank

12/18/2007, 09:32 AM	#3
landlord Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Alexandria, KY Posts: 1,937	Got a spare 10 gallon? Great place to temporarily store those inverts. Siphon off some tank water during a water change and you have a home for those inverts during the move. Just simply start pulling them out as you see them. It may tank a few days but you get the majority of them. At least snail-wise. Hermits are easy to snag as well. It's those pesky shrimp that I had trouble getting. They endied up coming out after moving the liverock. FWIW --landlord __________________ Forget the Turtle Man, you got the Coral Man Live Action Fragging! Current Tank Info: 90 Gallon SPS Reef (Sump, Fuge, Skimmer, CX reactor, Chemical filtration, Overflow) by Lifereef, 2x400W 20K Radiums on IceCaps, 2x39W T5 "For fun", RK2, 4x Tunze 6055, Aqua Logic 1/3 HP Chiller, DIY RO/DI ATO 2-Part via Litermeter. Lotsa Clownfish

12/18/2007, 09:48 AM	#5
jcpatella Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 814	How long can I keep inverts and fish in a temp tank while the new tank is cycling? I'm worried that once I move over the currently live rock into the new tank, levels will go haywire. All the while, the condition of the temp tank water will also be getting worse.... __________________ Dogs - Man's best friend; entropy's greatest catalyst. Current Tank Info: Biocube 8 on the way!

12/18/2007, 10:16 AM	#7
jcpatella Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 814	Good info. Here's my plan (very general version). 1) Transfer 55g livestock and water to temp tank 2) Save 55g live rock and water in trash cans 3) Empty/move 55g 4) Put 90g in final place, fill with rock and water from trash cans 5) Fill 90g with new salt water How long might it be for this new water to be ready for the livestock in the temp tank? __________________ Dogs - Man's best friend; entropy's greatest catalyst. Current Tank Info: Biocube 8 on the way!

12/18/2007, 09:33 AM	#4
str8clownr Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mia Posts: 619	quickness is key for me, when i do upgrades or moves, id say have a garbage can with as much of your tank water as possible. put all your rocks in that garbage can. also have two 5 gallon buckets with new saltwater and when taking rocks out of your tank dip them in each 5 gallon bucket and swish them around to clean up detritus, then place them in the garbage can, put the inverts in a smaller bucket and put corals in a shallow bucket with ah eater, chances are the water will get colder so heating them is best, good luck

12/18/2007, 10:01 AM	#6
ricks Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: portland,or Posts: 906	I changed a 280 for a 500. Get yourself a separate tank and cycle the new rock for a month first. The most important thing would be having the extra water. You will need enough for the new display, full. And enough to have your temp stock full at the same time. Once the rock has cured and all water parms match. You will be able to make the change with little risk... Happy Reefing

12/18/2007, 10:58 AM	#8
LeslieP Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waterford, CT Posts: 1,544	Or, you could move everything from the 55 (rock, inverts, fish, corals) into a plastic baby pool until the new tank is ready. You could even rig up your lights on top of cinder blocks if this will be for an extended time.

12/18/2007, 11:20 AM	#9
jcpatella Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 814	That's actually not that bad of an idea! I'm going to have my skimmer hooked up to the new tank before I put the livestock in, though. How long can fish/corals be in a temp tank without a skimmer? I'd probably have to do daily water changes. __________________ Dogs - Man's best friend; entropy's greatest catalyst. Current Tank Info: Biocube 8 on the way!

12/18/2007, 11:58 AM	#10
LeslieP Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waterford, CT Posts: 1,544	A lot of people run their tanks without skimmers and I know that mine has been out for a week at a time without too much trouble. Cutting down on feeding would help, or you could see if you could borrow a HOB skimmer from someone if this will be for an extended time.